Poilievre's Politics of Abandonment

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What’s this ? Here I thought Elvis had left the building :biggrin:
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Catsumi wrote: Sep 19th, 2023, 7:31 pm Obvious then, isn’t it, that obfuscation and bafflegab make inflation numbers deflate.
The stupidity of the CPC regarding inflation is obvious to any thinking Canadian. Canada is a not a "bus driver" in the current convergence of effects. The CPC excuse for a leader, Poilievre, is nothing more than a broken negative Nellie know nothing critic - and a hypocrite to boot.

We have a convergence of events that is bound to unsettle things and make for tough times:

1. A global pandemic.
2. a geopolitical shift toward authoritarianism and away from democracy (driven by disinformation enabled by the likes of the greedy Zuckerberg, the deranged Murdochs, and Apartheid raised Musk) urged on by the likes of Putin, Xi, Kim, and the ayatollahs of Iran.
3. A major war of aggression by the putrid jerk Putin.
4. A major demographic shift as the boomers retire in droves.
5. Climate change effects are coming home to roost with a bang. 2023 will likely be the hottest and most fiery year on record.

In that scenario Canada is doing very well.

Our inflation is far less than many other countries and is 1/3 less than the OECD average and our food inflation - while unacceptably high - is about half of what the food inflation is in Conservative led England.

In the G7 only the USA has marginally lower current inflation than Canada. The same is true for food inflation.

Yes, we in Canada are in a rough patch along with the rest of the world. World events have created storm and no country is escaping the effects. Canada and Canadians are weathering the storm - and that speaks to the strength of our country.

Canada is not "broken" - Pierre is broken.
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PP billed $100,824 travel expenses in one quarter. It's no wonder women are turning away from this high flying hypocrite
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VaxisSafe wrote: Sep 22nd, 2023, 3:04 pm PP billed $100,824 travel expenses in one quarter.
LOL - good for him. Winning elections and kicking out giant scumbags is a tough job, glad we have Pierre on it.
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hobbyguy wrote: Sep 22nd, 2023, 10:35 am
Catsumi wrote: Sep 19th, 2023, 7:31 pm Obvious then, isn’t it, that obfuscation and bafflegab make inflation numbers deflate.
The stupidity of the CPC regarding inflation is obvious to any thinking Canadian. Canada is a not a "bus driver" in the current convergence of effects. The CPC excuse for a leader, Poilievre, is nothing more than a broken negative Nellie know nothing critic - and a hypocrite to boot.

We have a convergence of events that is bound to unsettle things and make for tough times:

1. A global pandemic.
2. a geopolitical shift toward authoritarianism and away from democracy (driven by disinformation enabled by the likes of the greedy Zuckerberg, the deranged Murdochs, and Apartheid raised Musk) urged on by the likes of Putin, Xi, Kim, and the ayatollahs of Iran.
3. A major war of aggression by the putrid jerk Putin.
4. A major demographic shift as the boomers retire in droves.
5. Climate change effects are coming home to roost with a bang. 2023 will likely be the hottest and most fiery year on record.

In that scenario Canada is doing very well.

Our inflation is far less than many other countries and is 1/3 less than the OECD average and our food inflation - while unacceptably high - is about half of what the food inflation is in Conservative led England.

In the G7 only the USA has marginally lower current inflation than Canada. The same is true for food inflation.

Yes, we in Canada are in a rough patch along with the rest of the world. World events have created storm and no country is escaping the effects. Canada and Canadians are weathering the storm - and that speaks to the strength of our country.

Canada is not "broken" - Pierre is broken.
How many other countries have a carbon tax ? ??

Canada is doomed under Trudeau .
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Good to see you’re still up and around, HG.

Holidaying or lack of funding from HQs?

Anyhoot….looks like the rising support all across Canada for Pierre P has driven home the points he has been scoring in HOC and talking with us, the great unwashed taxpayer contingent. We want and need change soon, if not 8 years ago, to do away with this gawd-awful Putz-run govt you support without reservation. It must be a blow, personally, to watch the polls, the hundreds of videos, all castigating this govt as a bane upon Canadians.

Oh right, almost forgot…axe the carbon tax
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MAPearce wrote: Sep 22nd, 2023, 5:10 pm How many other countries have a carbon tax ? ??
Quite a few actually, and some are meeting with great success in steering people away from burning fossil fuels. Those that are meeting with success are taxing carbon at a much higher rate than Canada though, and the economic doom and gloom that so many like to prohesize is failing to surface.
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fluffy wrote: Sep 23rd, 2023, 5:11 am

Quite a few actually, and some are meeting with great success in steering people away from burning fossil fuels.
LOL - no they are not.

I was just in Germany and everyone there is complaining about their stupid carbon tax too, which isn't steering anyone away from "fossil fuels" but instead is causing their cost of living to rise with nothing to show for it, just like in Canada. Germany has bet really big on solar, there are solar panels on everything, and their return on investment is negative. They just aren't getting the power that the "renewable fuels" people promised them, which should surprise no one. Carbon taxes everywhere are a massive failure, but we all knew that they were doomed to fail.

Governments shouldn't be "steering people away" from cheap energy, especially if it's in the name of fairy tales. What they should be doing is getting out of the way, and allowing people to make choices that are the benefit of all mankind. Taxing people into making dumb and bad decisions is why the regressive Left is such a danger to all societies everywhere.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 23rd, 2023, 12:00 pm
fluffy wrote: Sep 23rd, 2023, 5:11 am

Quite a few actually, and some are meeting with great success in steering people away from burning fossil fuels.
LOL - no they are not.

I was just in Germany and everyone there is complaining about their stupid carbon tax too, which isn't steering anyone away from "fossil fuels" but instead is causing their cost of living to rise with nothing to show for it, just like in Canada. Germany has bet really big on solar, there are solar panels on everything, and their return on investment is negative. They just aren't getting the power that the "renewable fuels" people promised them, which should surprise no one. Carbon taxes everywhere are a massive failure, but we all knew that they were doomed to fail.

Governments shouldn't be "steering people away" from cheap energy, especially if it's in the name of fairy tales. What they should be doing is getting out of the way, and allowing people to make choices that are the benefit of all mankind. Taxing people into making dumb and bad decisions is why the regressive Left is such a danger to all societies everywhere.
So what the hell happened there in 2021?
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MAPearce wrote: Sep 22nd, 2023, 5:10 pm
hobbyguy wrote: Sep 22nd, 2023, 10:35 am

The stupidity of the CPC regarding inflation is obvious to any thinking Canadian. Canada is a not a "bus driver" in the current convergence of effects. The CPC excuse for a leader, Poilievre, is nothing more than a broken negative Nellie know nothing critic - and a hypocrite to boot.

We have a convergence of events that is bound to unsettle things and make for tough times:

1. A global pandemic.
2. a geopolitical shift toward authoritarianism and away from democracy (driven by disinformation enabled by the likes of the greedy Zuckerberg, the deranged Murdochs, and Apartheid raised Musk) urged on by the likes of Putin, Xi, Kim, and the ayatollahs of Iran.
3. A major war of aggression by the putrid jerk Putin.
4. A major demographic shift as the boomers retire in droves.
5. Climate change effects are coming home to roost with a bang. 2023 will likely be the hottest and most fiery year on record.

In that scenario Canada is doing very well.

Our inflation is far less than many other countries and is 1/3 less than the OECD average and our food inflation - while unacceptably high - is about half of what the food inflation is in Conservative led England.

In the G7 only the USA has marginally lower current inflation than Canada. The same is true for food inflation.

Yes, we in Canada are in a rough patch along with the rest of the world. World events have created storm and no country is escaping the effects. Canada and Canadians are weathering the storm - and that speaks to the strength of our country.

Canada is not "broken" - Pierre is broken.
How many other countries have a carbon tax ? ??

Canada is doomed under Trudeau .
Nonsense. A simple search will show you that. 53 countries, including almost all of the OECD have carbon pricing.

Why do CPC partisans have to rely on gaslighting? I guess because the CPC has no solutions to anything.
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So Pierre is up to his gaslighting tricks again. Today Poilievre talked about Canadians having to pay $120 for a turkey.

What absolute garbage! Small turkeys are about $15-18 and decent size ones (7 kg) about $24.

The only $120 turkey is Poilievre!
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LOOK - over there PIERRE POILIEVRE
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hobbyguy wrote: Oct 3rd, 2023, 3:14 pm So Pierre is up to his gaslighting tricks again. Today Poilievre talked about Canadians having to pay $120 for a turkey.

What absolute garbage! Small turkeys are about $15-18 and decent size ones (7 kg) about $24.

The only $120 turkey is Poilievre!
Where are you getting your turkeys? I paid $34 for a roughly 16 lb turkey a couple of days ago, and it was on sale.
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hobbyguy wrote: Oct 3rd, 2023, 3:14 pm So Pierre is up to his gaslighting tricks again. Today Poilievre talked about Canadians having to pay $120 for a turkey.

What absolute garbage! Small turkeys are about $15-18 and decent size ones (7 kg) about $24.

The only $120 turkey is Poilievre!
Pierre Poilievre must be buying his turkeys in the west.
Found in Abbotsford, Armstrong, Kamloops. Well they were found in dozens of cities, but Thanksgiving is coming fast.
Twenty pound turkeys, $6.50/lb, fresh, free range. Typical price.

Maybe the Liberals here should stick to a $5.00 order of chicken strips.
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Babba_not_Gump wrote: Oct 3rd, 2023, 4:01 pm Twenty pound turkeys, $6.50/lb, fresh, free range. Typical price.
Fresh , free range = typical rip off.

We are not getting a Turkey this year but I'm sure if we did that WalMart will have their usual $20 Turkeys.
Could be more this year but certainly not $120.
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