Pierre Poilievre's Politics of Inclusion

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BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 10:39 am
George Orwell 1984 wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 10:23 am Liberals are the furthest thing from respectful , liberals CHOOSE to employ divisive policies, liberals CHOOSE to separate people into classes to further their divide and conquer politics . Liberals CHOOSE to treat Canadians with disdain if you don’t agree with their policies . Then we have the NDP that support those policies and division. Don’t worry though PIERRE will include you also as a Canadian

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It's only division because you don't agree with what the majority of the electorate in the last election wanted. It's called a majority for a reason, and the majority clearly preferred the politics and policies of a left leaning government. Please explain how ANY political party or P.M. can listen to, much less please, 100% of the electorate? I'm listening with an open mind.
Not sure what ‘majority’ you are referring to. Conservatives had the most votes of any single party then Trudeau formed a minority abomination government. The current minority government has fatally lost in polling. Trudeau is the world’s worst leader, and Jagmeet is his equal. The majority is watching Canada turn into an economic and social dumpster fire while Trudeau is still oblivious.

Voters are not getting what was promised. The abomination lied. There is a wide chasm between ‘not pleasing the majority of Canadians’, and actively gaslighting, avoiding, and dismissing them which is what injustice warrior Trudeau does. Shall no Trudeau ever sit in power again.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 1:49 pm
BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 10:39 am

It's only division because you don't agree with what the majority of the electorate in the last election wanted. It's called a majority for a reason, and the majority clearly preferred the politics and policies of a left leaning government. Please explain how ANY political party or P.M. can listen to, much less please, 100% of the electorate? I'm listening with an open mind.
Not sure what ‘majority’ you are referring to. Conservatives had the most votes of any single party then Trudeau formed a minority abomination government. The current minority government has fatally lost in polling. Trudeau is the world’s worst leader, and Jagmeet is his equal. The majority is watching Canada turn into an economic and social dumpster fire while Trudeau is still oblivious.

Voters are not getting what was promised. The abomination lied. There is a wide chasm between ‘not pleasing the majority of Canadians’, and actively gaslighting, avoiding, and dismissing them which is what injustice warrior Trudeau does. Shall no Trudeau ever sit in power again.
Sigh...ok, I will provide some political education for you. While it may be true that the Cons have the largest percentage of support, they are the only viable party on the right. Voters on the left have two viable parties to choose from; which means over 60% of the electorate of Canada leans left. The Liberals and NDP vote split. And because we are not the States where choice is either/or, people have legitimate options . And the further right of centre PP takes the cons, the less likely it is any other party would prop up his minority government without serious concessions. That's what makes our system far superior to that Stateside. It forces compromise and concessions to form government, thus ensuring no party can stray too far from centre. P.S. I used to regularly vote Conservative up to and including Harper. The right is just becoming way, way too extreme now. Not to mention PP is a populist with no real vision or policy. He mostly trades in sound bites and igniting rage among the base. Sounds like another populist no?
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BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 2:01 pm

Sigh...ok, I will provide some political education for you.
Sigh right back at you. Canadians don't want to be led by the imbecile Liberals. They've done a really crappy job. This is why Pierre is going to punt them out! Go Pierre!!
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BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 2:01 pm Voters on the left have two viable parties to choose from;
Nope. They have two garbage parties to choose from. They are not "viable", at all.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 1:49 pm

Not sure what ‘majority’ you are referring to. Conservatives had the most votes of any single party then Trudeau formed a minority abomination government. The current minority government has fatally lost in polling. Trudeau is the world’s worst leader, and Jagmeet is his equal. The majority is watching Canada turn into an economic and social dumpster fire while Trudeau is still oblivious.

Voters are not getting what was promised. The abomination lied. There is a wide chasm between ‘not pleasing the majority of Canadians’, and actively gaslighting, avoiding, and dismissing them which is what injustice warrior Trudeau does. Shall no Trudeau ever sit in power again.
Excellent points. The further left of centre Justin and Jagmeet takes their regressive far Left parties, the less likely it is any other party would prop up their minority government without serious concessions. That's what makes our system far superior to Europe. It forces compromise and concessions to form government, thus ensuring no party can stray too far from centre, without paralyzing the country like we see so often in European nations where no one can work together and power is far too fractured to get anything done.

The Left is just becoming way, way too extreme now. Not to mention Justin is a regressive loser with no real vision or policy. He mostly trades in sound bites and igniting rage among the base. Sounds like another communist no?

Pierre is perfectly positioned to wipe out the Libs and leave the NDP with only their most zealot followers. Man-made climate change, stupid regressive inflationary carbon taxes - only the truly insane want to keep destroying Canada over fairy tales. Go Pierre!! :up:
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 3:39 pm
Jlabute wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 1:49 pm

Not sure what ‘majority’ you are referring to. Conservatives had the most votes of any single party then Trudeau formed a minority abomination government. The current minority government has fatally lost in polling. Trudeau is the world’s worst leader, and Jagmeet is his equal. The majority is watching Canada turn into an economic and social dumpster fire while Trudeau is still oblivious.

Voters are not getting what was promised. The abomination lied. There is a wide chasm between ‘not pleasing the majority of Canadians’, and actively gaslighting, avoiding, and dismissing them which is what injustice warrior Trudeau does. Shall no Trudeau ever sit in power again.
Excellent points. The further left of centre Justin and Jagmeet takes their regressive far Left parties, the less likely it is any other party would prop up their minority government without serious concessions. That's what makes our system far superior to Europe. It forces compromise and concessions to form government, thus ensuring no party can stray too far from centre, without paralyzing the country like we see so often in European nations where no one can work together and power is far too fractured to get anything done.

The Left is just becoming way, way too extreme now. Not to mention Justin is a regressive loser with no real vision or policy. He mostly trades in sound bites and igniting rage among the base. Sounds like another communist no?

Pierre is perfectly positioned to wipe out the Libs and leave the NDP with only their most zealot followers. Man-made climate change, stupid regressive inflationary carbon taxes - only the truly insane want to keep destroying Canada over fairy tales. Go Pierre!! :up:
If, in your expert opinion you say so, I guess I should be inclined to agree with you based on your passion and emotion? I'm merely offering a political opinion based on years of trends and our historical left leaning tendencies. Sorry that it doesn't fit your narrative. Sounds like a you problem. Not a me problem.
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BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 4:11 pm

If, in your expert opinion you say so, I guess I should be inclined to agree with you based on your passion and emotion? I'm merely offering a political opinion based on years of trends and our historical left leaning tendencies. Sorry that it doesn't fit your narrative. Sounds like a you problem. Not a me problem.
Nope - sounds like a Pierre is going to be the next PM solution. To so many problems caused by far Left regressive policies that are brain-dead.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 3:24 pm
BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 2:01 pm Voters on the left have two viable parties to choose from;
Nope. They have two garbage parties to choose from. They are not "viable", at all.
My thoughts exactly. Unsustainable as the climate nuts say. Leave the mounting debt for who-ever remains. The left has become a lot more extreme since Trudeau and seeing Trudeau as the best option after Harper makes no sense at all. We all knew he would screw Canada over.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 18th, 2023, 9:09 am
The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 3:24 pm

Nope. They have two garbage parties to choose from. They are not "viable", at all.
My thoughts exactly. Unsustainable as the climate nuts say. Leave the mounting debt for who-ever remains. The left has become a lot more extreme since Trudeau and seeing Trudeau as the best option after Harper makes no sense at all. We all knew he would screw Canada over.
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BelieverinSciencethanks wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 2:01 pm
Jlabute wrote: Sep 17th, 2023, 1:49 pm

Not sure what ‘majority’ you are referring to. Conservatives had the most votes of any single party then Trudeau formed a minority abomination government. The current minority government has fatally lost in polling. Trudeau is the world’s worst leader, and Jagmeet is his equal. The majority is watching Canada turn into an economic and social dumpster fire while Trudeau is still oblivious.

Voters are not getting what was promised. The abomination lied. There is a wide chasm between ‘not pleasing the majority of Canadians’, and actively gaslighting, avoiding, and dismissing them which is what injustice warrior Trudeau does. Shall no Trudeau ever sit in power again.
Sigh...ok, I will provide some political education for you. While it may be true that the Cons have the largest percentage of support, they are the only viable party on the right. Voters on the left have two viable parties to choose from; which means over 60% of the electorate of Canada leans left. The Liberals and NDP vote split. And because we are not the States where choice is either/or, people have legitimate options . And the further right of centre PP takes the cons, the less likely it is any other party would prop up his minority government without serious concessions. That's what makes our system far superior to that Stateside. It forces compromise and concessions to form government, thus ensuring no party can stray too far from centre. P.S. I used to regularly vote Conservative up to and including Harper. The right is just becoming way, way too extreme now. Not to mention PP is a populist with no real vision or policy. He mostly trades in sound bites and igniting rage among the base. Sounds like another populist no?
You make it sound like you have an expected measurement of who is a populist, who has vision and policy. Yet You have never made an example of using those same principals against the current PM of the country. And clearly there is lots of available material there for you. I've never seen a single Liberalist support his own guidelines of expectations with any statement requiring the current PM. Which has opportunity to actually apply such measurement. Promises broken, failed Policies, Lying, ethic violations, policy with out structure.
Then your reference to sound bites and igniting rage among the base? Like calling others science deniers, nazi's supporters, woman haters, misogynists, and threats to democracy etc, etc.
Sure we can all have guidelines and expectations, but how are you so capable of passing so much judgement upon a future PM with no actual proof. Not a single source of available data to make a statement of such.
But rather, then not be seen as passing judgement upon the one currently available to do so?
In Pierres website are a very detailed list of policy. The cover off any issue you have. Not measurable as of yet, obviousily, but no different than all the policy JT had in 2015 that failed, never achieved anything and some that were nothing but lie's.
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Justin Trudeau's popularity dips as poll puts Poilievre as preferred choice for Canada PM
Poll gives an indication that Conservatives have high chances of getting a majority to form the government in the next elections in 2025

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world ... ils-546742
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