Standing Ovation in Parliament - for a former Nazi

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Jlabute wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 8:39 am How does a member of the SS, who is responsible for the mass murder of innocent civilians get to walk around enjoying a free life? If I were a real Nazi (and not what the Liberals call a Nazi), I would probably want to keep my head down and not agree to a Liberal invitation. Maybe he thought the Liberal party would protect him... seeing they love to celebrate people like Omar Khadr, etc. Perhaps the Liberal party will speak up and tell us this was their plan all along to discover and expose this war criminal.


https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/09/26/ ... om-canada/
I suspect this guest to House of Commons is probably already on the radar of this organization, Simon Wiesenthal Center.
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https://nationalpost.com/opinion/canada ... ss-galicia
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Long before Galicia Division veteran Yaroslav Hunka ever scored an invite to Parliament Hill, Canada spent decades overlooking and even providing official cover for an organization that would later claim to be full of Ukrainian freedom-fighters, but was founded by Nazis, served under Nazi command and fought exclusively to serve Nazi aims.
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 9:15 am Poland wants the Nazi extradited

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/p ... 4a8a2.html
I really hope this happens
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 9:15 am Poland wants the Nazi extradited

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/p ... 4a8a2.html
That's not what the article states. The headline, as is often the case, is inaccurate .
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 9:26 am
George Orwell 1984 wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 9:15 am Poland wants the Nazi extradited

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/p ... 4a8a2.html
That's not what the article states. The headline, as is often the case, is inaccurate .
Further down the page it does

“The features of such crimes constitute the basis for applying to Canada for his extradition,” said Czarnek in a Tuesday letter to Institute of National Remembrance President Karol Nawrocki.

A similar article is also posted on the Toronto Sun - is that one also inaccurate?
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Chris Selley: A fitting humiliation for the Liberals, and for Canada

By Monday midday, it seemed one of Canada’s greatest recent humiliations had stopped getting any worse, and we were settling into the fallout-and-recriminations phase.

House of Commons Speaker Anthony Rota had taken responsibility for inviting Yaroslav Hunka , a 98-year-old veteran of the Waffen-SS Galicia Division — which is to say someone who fought as a Nazi against the Soviets for Ukraine — to attend Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s speech in the House on Friday . (At time of writing, against all sense and reason, Rota still had not resigned.)

Introduced by Rota as “a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero,” whom all should “thank for … his service,” Hunka received a standing ovation from MPs, and an approving fist-pump from Zelenskyy. It’s not clear whether Zelenskyy realized Hunka had fought with the SS Galicia — a very fraught piece of Ukrainian history from which Zelenskyy ha s deliberately tried to distance himself. Either way it’s awkward for Ukraine, and it’s mortifying that Canada put Zelenskyy in this situation.

Government-friendly Russian media did not fail to notice the event and frame it to support Putin’s central war narrative of “de-Nazifying Ukraine.” There is no shortage of people in the West happy to buy into that narrative. And there are vastly more people, across the political spectrum, who argue this war simply isn’t our business and isn’t worth our billions. They, too, have been emboldened. Putin’s propaganda officers must be turning cartwheels down the halls of the Kremlin.

That matters far more than what happens now in Ottawa. But holy crow, does this ever feel like a brand new low for this unfathomably unserious country. It’s a wholesale repudiation of everything Liberal propaganda officers will tell you Canada is supposed to stand for.

As if teeing up the disgrace, in the hours leading up to Rota’s apology, bozo Liberal MP Mark Gerretsen had accused Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre of not applauding Zelenskyy’s address in the House of Commons lustily enough. It was a typically idiotic attempt to link the unambiguously pro-Ukraine Poilievre and his party to Russophiles and Putinites on the new, nihilist right — people who likely support Maxime Bernier’s People’s Party if they support any party at all.

To capture video evidence of Poilievre’s alleged lack of enthusiasm, Gerretsen naturally had to cease clapping altogether, which was inevitably caught on camera by someone else. It was perhaps the ultimate example of the old adage that foreign policy in Canada is 100 per cent for domestic consumption. If Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or any of his underlings ordered Gerretsen to stop behaving like an imbecile, he would. They clearly don’t want him to stop behaving like an imbecile.


Anyway, as it turned out, more humiliation was to come.

On Monday, Government House Leader Karina Gould sought (and did not receive) unanimous consent to expunge the entire Hunka episode from the official history. The unfortunate events would be erased from Hansard and from all official audio and visual recordings of the day’s proceedings.

Get caught lionizing someone who fought for Hitler … and channel Stalin in response? One almost has to admire the chutzpah … except one suspects Gould didn’t understand how ridiculous she looked. “It goes without saying that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it,” Conservative MP Marty Morantz said in response — maybe the easiest empty-net goal in Commons history.

Many seemed baffled by Gould’s proposal to wipe the record clean, but it seems pretty obvious to me what the Liberals had in mind: They’re so hopelessly shipwrecked up their own backsides that they actually thought they might productively accuse the Conservatives of being pro-Nazi for not agreeing to expunge the record. Or at least, they thought that was worth a try, at the cost of Gould’s reputation. And Gould had no problem playing along.
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With all :cuss: happening to liberal government when will the ndp pull their support an enable a nonconfidence vote to happen.
So citizens of this country don't have to wait until 2025 to give JT the boot.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 8:39 am How does a member of the SS, who is responsible for the mass murder of innocent civilians get to walk around enjoying a free life? If I were a real Nazi (and not what the Liberals call a Nazi), I would probably want to keep my head down and not agree to a Liberal invitation. Maybe he thought the Liberal party would protect him... seeing they love to celebrate people like Omar Khadr, etc. Perhaps the Liberal party will speak up and tell us this was their plan all along to discover and expose this war criminal.


https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/09/26/ ... om-canada/
I hope he gets his "due process"... and if found guilty.... give him what he deserves... then give the Polish officials a standing ovation. :smt045
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GordonH wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 11:39 am With all :cuss: happening to liberal government when will the ndp pull their support an enable a nonconfidence vote to happen.
So citizens of this country don't have to wait until 2025 to give JT the boot.
sure wish Singh would just do this now, enough is enough- anyways Rota resigned
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Patron wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 11:58 am
GordonH wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 11:39 am With all :cuss: happening to liberal government when will the ndp pull their support an enable a nonconfidence vote to happen.
So citizens of this country don't have to wait until 2025 to give JT the boot.
sure wish Singh would just do this now, enough is enough- anyways Rota resigned
Is it full under the bus yet?
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 12:12 pm
Patron wrote: Sep 26th, 2023, 11:58 am

sure wish Singh would just do this now, enough is enough- anyways Rota resigned
Is it full under the bus yet?
I would like to know too when the man thinks it will be- this is getting ridiculous now, time to start caring about Canadians and not your own personal ego power trip
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and Rota gone
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/speake ... -1.6978422
wow, about as shocking as finding out Ricky Martin gay
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For a second day in a row, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was absent from question period Tuesday as the Opposition peppered the government with questions about the Rota mishap.
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The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre (FSWC), a Jewish rights group, said Rota's action "compromised all 338 MPs" and "handed a propaganda victory to Russia."
well that was a nice way of saying what the Heck were you thinking Idiot
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Thinktank wrote: Sep 25th, 2023, 3:39 pm But some 98 year old Ukie who fought the Russian government who actually did a genocide of six million Ukrainians,
standing ovations for him = BAD?
Unsurprising that this "Think"tank guy, who has expressed antisemitism in prior posts, is now apparently OK with supporting a former Nazi member.
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Speaker Rota is a true man. He took the heat for something that his underlings failed to see. Maybe Trudeau can learn a lesson from this man instead of whining that it wasn't me. He is the boss and should start acting like one.

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