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fluffy wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 7:20 am Government needs to get back into social housing, either through direct investment of through incentives for the private sector to build purpose-built rentals.
Who's going to pay for that?

When government has been involved, zero homes get built but fatass bureaucrats land plush jobs, costing us billions.
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I can picture the social housing now. Wrecked cars in the “ green spaces “ laundry hanging from the 6 x 8 decks, children playing on the rusty state provided playground equipment amidst the broken crack pipes and needles while the sounds of gunfire echo throughout the “projects” . The communist utopia . The state shall provide.
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liisgo wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 7:52 amWhy dont you at least provide sum numbers that satisfy...
To what end ? It's obvious to me that you do not have an open mind on this. I'm saying there is a problem, so is just about everyone else, and I'm saying that problem is rooted in using housing as a vehicle for wealth production. That's where we need to start if we want to increase affordability and availability. If you want to say that there is no room for improvement in the way we are doing things now then you won't find an audience in me.
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 8:30 am Nothing builds a sense of community more than social housing . Your government working hard for the middle class and those that wish to join it. The socialist dream . It gives the commies the warm fuzzies ……right?IMG_1193.png
you need to go take a walk at Rail trail Homeless camp and see how well things have been going since social housing stopped being built and it's only getting worse

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Patron wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:29 am
George Orwell 1984 wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 8:30 am Nothing builds a sense of community more than social housing . Your government working hard for the middle class and those that wish to join it. The socialist dream . It gives the commies the warm fuzzies ……right?IMG_1193.png
you need to go take a walk at Rail trail Homeless camp and see how well things have been going since social housing stopped being built and it's only getting worse


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That also is the socialist dream world , need some fentanyl, the state shall provide. You too can have a state provided sea can city next door , complete with shopping carts and needles
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 8:31 am
fluffy wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 7:20 am Government needs to get back into social housing, either through direct investment of through incentives for the private sector to build purpose-built rentals.
Who's going to pay for that?

When government has been involved, zero homes get built but fatass bureaucrats land plush jobs, costing us billions.
think the % of MP's both red and blue ( this includes Pierre) is 40% who are all invested in RE and are LL's- maybe that's the real reason why none of our political parties gave a damn to address our housing crisis for so many yrs ?

have a friend from Vancouver who is actively looking to buy a home here this weekend- their RE Agent told them that in the last 10 yrs ( which is a very small amount of time) prices of homes here have doubled, in some areas tripled- pretty sure you have said this yourself in the liberal thread a few times, but I guess it has a different meaning when it's being blamed solely on Trudeau

( btw, these are the prices of existing homes, not new builds)
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:30 am
Patron wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:29 am

you need to go take a walk at Rail trail Homeless camp and see how well things have been going since social housing stopped being built and it's only getting worse


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That also is the socialist dream world , need some fentanyl, the state shall provide. You too can have a state provided sea can city next door , complete with shopping carts and needles
you got some data to prove that every homeless person here is a drug addict ? or is it just your opinion that every homeless person is a drug addict ?
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fluffy wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:28 am
liisgo wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 7:52 amWhy dont you at least provide sum numbers that satisfy...
To what end ? It's obvious to me that you do not have an open mind on this. I'm saying there is a problem, so is just about everyone else, and I'm saying that problem is rooted in using housing as a vehicle for wealth production. That's where we need to start if we want to increase affordability and availability. If you want to say that there is no room for improvement in the way we are doing things now then you won't find an audience in me.
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Patron wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:40 am
George Orwell 1984 wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:30 am

That also is the socialist dream world , need some fentanyl, the state shall provide. You too can have a state provided sea can city next door , complete with shopping carts and needles
you got some data to prove that every homeless person here is a drug addict ? or is it just your opinion that every homeless person is a drug addict ?
How about you provide the data and I will provide a rebuttal ? 67% is that enough drug addiction along with a large amount of mental health cases. Would you like some naloxone with that ?
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seewood wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 7:47 am
rustled wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 7:35 am Sooner or later the increasingly socialist government runs out of everybody else's money. This is NOT a solution - it is a way to grow the problem bigger to achieve the goals of socialists, at the expense of all of us.
Freeking perfect :up: However it seems they have an entire ministry to dream up more taxe schemes. The NDP and federal liberals are going to sleep at night wondering where the next billion is coming from.
Socialist governments aren't likely to run out of everyone else's money, well not in their view, they'll just build larger debts.

Social housing is fine for the really poor, but we are seeing higher and higher income levels qualifying for social housing. Why?
Because of demand, driving up prices and there is one main reason for that demand. Out of control immigration.

You can't bring in a million or more every year and hope to build enough housing for them. It's realistically impossible.

There's only one solution to this crazy housing issue. STOP IMMIGRATION.
Unfortunately that won't happen this year or next year, many late next year. Until then how many more will come into Canada requiring homes? Two, three million?

But immigration must be slowed, drastically, then we'll slowly get this mess under control. But in the meantime what new socialist housing restrictions will be forced on this country? And that is what's scary.
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I see Ron DeSantis is doing something about the squatter issue in the US. Would our nutless loser Liberal/NDP governments be strong enough to ever do something like this? Of course not...

Carney is "Timbit Trump" and a disgusting misogynist. No self-respecting woman can vote for Carney. People who support Carney are angry and fearful.
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How the government turned a once-pristine neighbourhood into a third world schmidt-hole

Our neighbourhood was, not that long ago, a beautiful place for retirees to purchase over-55 condos, with tree-lined walkways, a lovely stream bisecting the streets, well cared for homes and condo units.

Our city Govt [Vernon] decided that this was to be the place where the drug-addled, brain damaged, criminal types must live also. So, they plunked down in our midst one of these nests that have c9mpletely changed the character of a seniors’ safe neighbourhood.

None of us now dare walk the streets to the nearby grocery store and certainly never, ever in the evenings. We have shopping cart runways, drug deals going down, drug injections on our lawns, peeps taking a crap in between our cedar trees, fires being set as “warming centres” under our balconies, shouting, fights and yelling on our street, with ambulance and fire truck attendances more than 2x daily.

The nearby stream was turned into a garbage disposal by these “upstanding and valuable citizens”that complaint-driven action was taken by the city who finally put in a fencing perimeter to keep them out of there last year.

Even our dumpsters were not immune. They’d crawl in there looking for bottles or whatever, giving nasty shocks to the elderly taking out their weekly garbage bags. So now we have locked dumpsters, a joy to deal with in sub-zero temperatures.

These are the people we want to “gift” free housing to?

Anyone wanting this mess for themselves….please do stop by and I’ll personally help you load up and take this problem to your home street. With pleasure.
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They want everything I have. Except my job
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tsayta wrote: Mar 29th, 2024, 9:37 pm They want everything I have. Except my job
Nice to see you out and about on the forums again. :up:

Yes, they’ll take everything that your job gives to you, but your job is safe from them.
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You have to love at those who trot out the socialist/communist labels every time someone suggests that as a society we should be looking to improve everyone's quality of life instead of just the rich. I've lost track of how many times I've said we don't need socialism as much as we need a less predatory form of capitalism. We need to adjust our free market so that there is room for everyone to do a little better this year than they did last year. We need inflation to apply to wages to the same degree it affects expenses. We need housing to be accessible to people at every income level. Sure, those with more money can have nicer housing, but there is no reason that in a society such as ours that people should not be able to secure housing that is within their means. A big part of doing that will be to move away from using housing as an investment for anyone other than those living in the house.
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