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Attacking Syria

Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Even Steven » Apr 16th, 2018, 9:53 am

vinnied wrote: But, I still believe Assad has used, and will continue to use chemical weapons unless someone tries to stop him. which is really what this is about, and the UN obviously must see it that way as well.


Yes, but the fact that Assad has used chemical weapons needs to be established by a UN-led organization, not by US State department or CNN. UN commision was on the way to the are of alleged chemical attack, yet US went ahead and ordered a strike even before anything was researched, proven, or established. They're not interested in truth, they just want to bomb yet another country on false pretense.

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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby burnedatstake » Apr 16th, 2018, 10:20 am

Even Steven wrote:Yes, but the fact that Assad has used chemical weapons needs to be established by a UN-led organization, not by US State department or CNN. UN commision was on the way to the are of alleged chemical attack, yet US went ahead and ordered a strike even before anything was researched, proven, or established. They're not interested in truth, they just want to bomb yet another country on false pretense.


yes. but unfortunately the US doesnt trust the UN enough to fabricate lies that didnt happen. thus they have to do so on their own. like the wmd's in iraq. no one found any - and then suddenly there were fabrications of evidence and there was a war. the real truth is that the friction between the US (and some allies) and the UN - is that they cant do whatever they want with the UN in the way. so they discredit the UN and supersede them and do things anyways. funny how the US finds the UN usefull when it comes to israel - but not for anything that hinders their agendas.
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Snman » Apr 16th, 2018, 12:42 pm

burnedatstake wrote:
yes. but unfortunately the US doesnt trust the UN enough to fabricate lies that didnt happen. thus they have to do so on their own. like the wmd's in iraq. no one found any - and then suddenly there were fabrications of evidence and there was a war. the real truth is that the friction between the US (and some allies) and the UN - is that they cant do whatever they want with the UN in the way. so they discredit the UN and supersede them and do things anyways. funny how the US finds the UN usefull when it comes to israel - but not for anything that hinders their agendas.


Please tell us how the UN is in any way useful when it comes to Israel these days.
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby sobrohusfat » Apr 16th, 2018, 1:59 pm

Snman wrote:Pleas[e] tell us how the UN is in any way useful when it comes to Israel these days.

*ugh* no! - why!? - please spare us

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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Snman » Apr 16th, 2018, 2:40 pm

Thanx for the 'e'. I was short one. :130:
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby vinnied » Apr 16th, 2018, 4:36 pm

latest word on the street is Russia is blocking the inspectors from entering the site of the "alleged" chemical attack until wednesday now. Something to do with the allied bombing.
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby vinnied » Apr 16th, 2018, 7:23 pm

Not sure how many threads we need on this topic, none the less. interesting reads straight from the United Nations.

http://undocs.org/S/2017/904
https://undocs.org/S/2016/738
http://undocs.org/A/68/663
http://undocs.org/A/67/997
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby capleton » Apr 17th, 2018, 9:09 am

Why would Syria use chemical weapons when it is in the midst of winning back key territories from militants? Syria also has no chemical weapons because they gave them all away a few years back. I think this chemical attack either didn't happen or it was done by one of the many terrorist groups that Syria is fighting.
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby GordonH » Apr 17th, 2018, 9:23 am

Past behavior of the main 3 countries evolved (Syria, Russia & US), tells me none of them can be trusted to actually tell anything truthfully.
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Fancy » Apr 17th, 2018, 11:27 am

International inspectors have entered the Syrian town where an alleged chemical attack was carried out earlier this month, Syrian state media reported Tuesday, after they had waited for days in the capital for permission from Syrian and Russian authorities.

The fact-finding mission from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons is investigating reports that government forces launched an April 7 chemical attack in the final stages of their fight to retake the town of Douma from rebels. The alleged gas attack, which Syrian activists say killed more than 40 people, prompted punitive U.S., British and French airstrikes.

Syria and its ally Russia deny any chemical attack took place, and Russian officials have accused Britain of staging a "fake" chemical attack. British Prime Minister Theresa May says Syria and Russia — whose forces now control the town east of Damascus — are trying to cover up evidence.

Journalists were allowed access to the suspected attack sites on Monday, but the OPCW said Syrian and Russian authorities blocked the inspectors.

The Associated Press spoke to survivors and witnesses who described being hit by gas. Several said a strange smell started spreading and people screamed, "It's chlorine! It's chlorine!"

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#223902
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Poindexter » Apr 17th, 2018, 1:01 pm

The timing of the bombing is odd, why before the inspectors have confirmed it was a chemical attack? The addition of allies does add credibility to the timing however it is coincidental that it occurred while the Stormy Daniels' story was building. Bill Maher said it best when he called this latest US military campaign in the middle east, "Desert Stormy".
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Passion4Truth » Apr 17th, 2018, 4:47 pm

Yes, the timing does seem a bit odd.

An OPCW fact-finding mission arrived in Damascus just hours following strikes carried out by US, British, and French forces against the Syrian government. The timing of the visit underscores serious questions about the US-led attack, most importantly, why such strikes would be carried out against a sovereign nation before an investigation into the alleged chemical weapons attack even took place?

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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Passion4Truth » Apr 17th, 2018, 4:49 pm

As western media stirs the pot and pushes for strikes on Syria without evidence, NYU Media Studies Professor Mark Crispin Miller calls the coverage ’garbage’ and says it parallels the media narratives preceding the Iraq War.

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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Necro » Apr 19th, 2018, 10:34 am

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#223902

Castanet's lazy reporting on this subject leaves a lot to be desired.

Journalists were allowed access to the suspected attack sites on Monday


I wonder why Castanet defers to AP instead of including highly respected and renowned British journalist Robert Fisk, who after visiting the area raises legitimate concerns over the alleged use of chemical weapons? Lazy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/sy ... 07726.html

but the OPCW said Syrian and Russian authorities blocked the inspectors.


This a blatantly false and unsubstantiated claim. A claim being pushed by msm that is demonstrably false, shame on Castanet for being useful idiots and not fact checking prior to posting their usual trash. Stick to road reports.

The OPCW's statement released yesterday does not include the words "OPCW is currently refused access."

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/media ... uma-syria/

Taken from OPCW's website; https://www.opcw.org/

This is because they are currently being refused access by The United Nations Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS), which can be verified via the OPCW's Director-General's statement yesterday..

The security for the sites where the FFM plans to deploy was under the control of the Russian Military Police. The United Nations Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS) has made the necessary arrangements with the Syrian authorities to escort the team to a certain point and then for the escort to be taken over by the Russian Military Police. However, the UNDSS preferred to first conduct a reconnaissance visit to the sites, which took place yesterday. FFM team members did not participate in this visit.


https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/ ... g02_e_.pdf

No evidence of chemical weapons was provided prior to the US/UK and French deployment of missiles. No evidence of chemical weapons have been provided since. Of course, the truth doesn't make for good 'ol click-bait huh Castanet. Lmao.
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Re: Attacking Syria

Postby Fancy » Apr 19th, 2018, 10:52 am

Robert Fisk claimed that there was no chemical attack based on the testimony of a doctor who was not at the scene

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crit ... -fx7f3fs2r
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