What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby Thinktank » Apr 30th, 2018, 8:53 am

Israel can learn from Canada - You don't need to keep killing and injuring people.

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Constable Ken Lam (left) of the Toronto Police Service has been hailed as a hero for not shooting a man who mowed down two dozen people with a van on a busy street on Monday. Lam is the son of David Lam (right), a police officer who served in his native Hong Kong. Israel, a country that Christians from around the world believe is "holy" has a tendency to just go out and murder and injure as many people as possible. They're sadistic.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... iring-shot.

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Israeli army kills 17 Palestinians in Gaza protests

More than 1,400 others wounded by Israeli forces during march calling for return of Palestinian refugees to their lands.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/ ... 34136.html
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby techrtr » May 16th, 2018, 12:34 pm

Well, there are two sides to the story. Canadians have no idea what it's like to live in a powderkeg (unless they moved here from a powderkeg).

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Postby floppi » May 16th, 2018, 2:02 pm

techrtr wrote:Well, there are two sides to the story. Canadians have no idea what it's like to live in a powderkeg (unless they moved here from a powderkeg).


That's mostly true but Canadians soldiers certainly know as they have been bombing the "powderkeg" for decades. Why do you think the refugees are everywhere but at their homeland?
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby The Green Barbarian » May 16th, 2018, 2:33 pm

I realize that the lunatic Left never sees any blame on any side here but Israel's, but here's another perspective:

The Hamas leader’s claim of 50 members brings the total of terrorists killed on Monday up to 53. The Iran-backed Palestinian Islamic Jihad named three of its members on Monday who were killed in the riots.

Despite admitting that Hamas members were killed in the so-called Great March of Return, Bardawil claimed that Palestinian civilians, not the terror group, initiated the protests. Israeli intelligence, however, said the terror group has encouraged civilians, especially teenagers and children, to approach the Israeli border, while Hamas terrorists hung back and waited for an opening to cross and commit terror attacks on Israelis.

The bloody riots made Monday the deadliest single day in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict since the 2014 war between Hamas and Israel. The heightened violence corresponded with the christening of the new U.S. embassy in Jerusalem on Monday, which enraged Palestinians who view the eastern part of the city as a future capital.

“The Hamas leadership is a group of cannibals that treats their children as weapons. They have rockets, sidearms, and a different kind of weapon: women and children,” Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman said on Wednesday. “Their goal is to lift Gaza’s blockade but not to build their economy or hold talks about coexistence, but rather to smuggle weapons (into Gaza) to continue to build up their military force and create a pseudo Hezbollah model.”


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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby d0nb » May 16th, 2018, 4:23 pm

The Hamas leadership is a group of cannibals that treats their children as weapons. They have rockets, sidearms, and a different kind of weapon: women and children,” Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman said on Wednesday. “Their goal is to lift Gaza’s blockade but not to build their economy or hold talks about coexistence, but rather to smuggle weapons (into Gaza) to continue to build up their military force and create a pseudo Hezbollah model.


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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby CapitalB » May 16th, 2018, 4:38 pm

Its a tricky thing, on the one hand I can empathize with the people protesting for a better life for their children. Who here wouldn't take to the streets, hell even go to war for their kids. On the other hand how do two groups of people start talking peace while they kill each other daily.

I mean sure sanctions on the area are meant to starve out the terrorist factions medieval siege style, but all it seems to do is turn more young men militant. For something like this to work a balance needs to be struck between standing up to terrorists and squeezing the population so hard that they feel like there is no option but to fight back. As things stand now israel squeezes, palestine tries to apply its own pressure, israel uses this as justification to squeeze harder. Its a self perpetuating cycle that looks to have no end in sight.

I guess we'll just have to wait around and see what sort of plan Israel has for the worlds largest concentration camp.
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby GordonH » May 16th, 2018, 4:48 pm

Knowing the Leadership of the Palestinians has both been known terrorist organizations i.e PLO & Hamas (latter one has deep ties to Muslim Brotherhood)

It would be very hard for Israel to have any trust or faith in its intentions.
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby westbankkid » May 17th, 2018, 7:46 am

Israeli BAS*ARDS have no right stealing land from the Palestinians. You have been stealing more and more land as the years go by. You are the cause of the problems in the Mideast. Get out of Palestine. TRUMP is to blame as well as Canada for supporting Israel....
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby The Green Barbarian » May 17th, 2018, 8:28 am

westbankkid wrote: Get out of Palestine. ..


and go where? Everyone hates the Jews. So much so, they were almost exterminated while the world just sat and watched. They know that, which is why they created Israel. That's kind of the problem here though. No matter where they go, there are people who hate them, and brainless moron Leftists defending that hate.
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby Jlabute » May 17th, 2018, 8:56 am

Palestine isn't even a real country of which the land rightfully belongs to Israel anyways, historically. In Israel, it's female Arab population have the right to vote and drive, in a country that is envied by all. It is the only shining democratic jewel in the middle east.

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.
5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.
7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.
9. In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.
10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, and slaughter.
11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
12. Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.
13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.
15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.
17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.
18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.
19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/02/there_was_never_a_country_called_palestine.html

http://www.targetofopportunity.com/palestinian_truth.htm

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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby Verum » May 17th, 2018, 10:26 am

Jlabute wrote:Palestine isn't even a real country of which the land rightfully belongs to Israel anyways, historically. In Israel, it's female Arab population have the right to vote and drive, in a country that is envied by all. It is the only shining democratic jewel in the middle east.

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam. Irrelevant. The people who inhabited the land before the setting up of the modern state of Israel almost certainly can claim lineage and land back as far or further than many, if not most of those who now live in Israel. The religion of a people should not determine their right to own and continue to own land. Being Catholic wouldn't give me a right to claim a plot of land in Rome, even if the current owner isn't Catholic. The religion of the people doesn't give them right to claim Israel or Palestinian lands.
2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. Again, irrelevant. Did they or their ancestors live on the land before the state of Israel was created on their lands? If so, it is their land and they should either have their land returned or be compensated in a manner they choose.
4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years. Irrelevant.
5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. Irrelevant. Its status as a capital or not doesn't make it acceptable to just take someone else's land.
6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. Irrelevant. Its frequency in some books doesn't make it acceptable to just take someone else's land.
7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. Irrelevant. Its religious status doesn't make it acceptable to just take someone else's land. Also a complete lie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isra_and_Mi%27raj
8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem. Irrelevant. Its religious status doesn't make it acceptable to just take someone else's land.
9. In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. Irrelevant. Who pushed the people off the land is not important, it is who occupies taken land that matters.
10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, and slaughter. Irrelevant. Being persecuted elsewhere doesn't give you the right to persecute others, nor steal from them.
11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same. Irrelevant. Being persecuted elsewhere doesn't give you the right to persecute others, nor steal from them.
12. Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. Irrelevant. Actions of third party countries to Palestinians is no excuse for mistreatment of such, nor does it make it acceptable to steal. A country denying you refuge doesn't make the mistreatment by those who took your land any less wrong.
13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won. Irrelevant. The actions of third party countries is no excuse to treat others poorly, steal from them or kill them.
14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them. This is, so far, the only even remotely relevant point in what you have written. Any negotiated settlement should require that Palestine observes the right of the state of Israel to exist, and to expect cooperation in terms of security.
15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. And you're back to irrelevant arguments.
16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel. Good indication that Israel needs to clean up its act and behave in a reasonable and responsible fashion.
17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.
18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians. And you're back to irrelevant points that have nothing to do with the Palestinians.
19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.


You should maybe look beyond the hawkish and rather hard right pundits. There are lots of far less biased providers of information, like the UNHRC, Amnesty, etc. Watch a documentary or two which actually visits the Palestinians. They are people, they bleed red blood, they love, they feel, they deserve the same level of respect and as you do. They have a claim to land, taken from them and their ancestors by underhanded means and violence, and they just want their land back. They want access to the lands of their ancestors, of their religion, of their people and they can claim direct lineage to such. Many of those in Israel have no credible claim to the land beyond the absurd claim that their religion entitles them to it, an absurd notion if ever there was one.
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby sobrohusfat » May 17th, 2018, 12:03 pm

You got the Jew-free Gaza you demanded.

Now you want to rush the Israeli border en-masse
- setting fires
- throwing explosives
- shooting at Israelis
...while yelling DEATH TO THE JEWS

then you take your chances fools.


Go on - give it a go TT
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby The Green Barbarian » May 17th, 2018, 2:47 pm

Verum wrote:There are lots of far less biased providers of information, like the UNHRC, Amnesty, etc.


I can't tell if this comment is just stupid, or based in shockingly stupid naivete. You are honestly trying to peddle the complete crap that lunatic far left organizations like Amnety are "Less biased"? Give your freaking head a shake. Just wow.
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby Verum » May 17th, 2018, 2:56 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Verum wrote:There are lots of far less biased providers of information, like the UNHRC, Amnesty, etc.


I can't tell if this comment is just stupid, or based in shockingly stupid naivete. You are honestly trying to peddle the complete crap that lunatic far left organizations like Amnety are "Less biased"? Give your freaking head a shake. Just wow.

Classic ad hominem attack on Amnesty, and ignoring of the actual issues. Yes, they are less biased than Prager, which wouldn't be hard. Also, calling something politically left isn't in and of itself and insult nor a demonstration that they are actually wrong. That said, your response is entirely in fitting with expected behaviour and up to the same standards as your usual post.

If you wish to be taken seriously, you might consider discussing the arguments I put forward, but that's entirely your choice. I for one won't be holding my breath.

Your bullying, by telling me what to do, is unwanted and unnecessary.
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Re: What (holy) Israel can learn from Canada about killing

Postby Thinktank » May 17th, 2018, 4:26 pm

d0nb wrote:Israel will only have peace when its neighbors love their children more than they hate Israel. - usually attributed to Golda Meir


Golda was one helluva tricky old lady. Israel does the murdering, and she puts it in a way
that makes the Jews of Israel's government come out "smelling like a rose."

and they've been tricking us ever since.



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