Trump - life after the presidency

[The Green Barbarian]

What anger? What hate?

[Silverstarqueen]

So I assume you call Biden stating he was at ground zero on Set 12th a misspoken event, not a lie. It was either a lie, or he is mental unfit to be in the position, or take ANY speach he's made in the last year, every time he says something "non factual" I guess is your excuse other than "lie", who knows.

Take your pick.

But the juvenile arguments that one is fine and the other is not when BOTH are unfit is just silly.

The only possible way to see Biden as capable is to be hating Trump so much you can ignore it, as not being able to see both as a bad option is not rational.

You said this, not me.
I don't hate Trump, I do totally disrespect his cheating, lying, lawbreaking, not respecting the election process, and the sheer amount of it. I disrespect his intimidating and insulting witnesses,prosecutors, and complainants in legal cases. Every politician probably fudges a few facts, Biden is not perfect. But there is no way you can claim that Biden has even remotely close to the number of lies and seriousness of lies that Trump has. Whether Biden recalls being at Ground zero the very next day, or a week later, is a small difference in comparison to the lies that Trump has been caught out on. so when Biden's lies rise to the level of state or federal cases involving serious criminal conduct and dereliction of duties of the president , then I'd take that just as seriously(to be discussed in a different thread). This thread is about Trump, not about Biden, but you want to deflect from the seriousness of Trump's lies, of which he has accumulated and repeated thousands of them. Are you really going to compare that to the few that might crop up from Biden?

[the truth]

So I assume you call Biden stating he was at ground zero on Set 12th a misspoken event, not a lie. It was either a lie, or he is mental unfit to be in the position, or take ANY speach he's made in the last year, every time he says something "non factual" I guess is your excuse other than "lie", who knows.

Take your pick.

But the juvenile arguments that one is fine and the other is not when BOTH are unfit is just silly.

The only possible way to see Biden as capable is to be hating Trump so much you can ignore it, as not being able to see both as a bad option is not rational.

You said this, not me.
I don't hate Trump, I do totally disrespect his cheating, lying, lawbreaking, not respecting the election process, and the sheer amount of it. I disrespect his intimidating and insulting witnesses,prosecutors, and complainants in legal cases. Every politician probably fudges a few facts, Biden is not perfect. But there is no way you can claim that Biden has even remotely close to the number of lies and seriousness of lies that Trump has. Whether Biden recalls being at Ground zero the very next day, or a week later, is a small difference in comparison to the lies that Trump has been caught out on. so when Biden's lies rise to the level of state or federal cases involving serious criminal conduct and dereliction of duties of the president , then I'd take that just as seriously(to be discussed in a different thread). This thread is about Trump, not about Biden, but you want to deflect from the seriousness of Trump's lies, of which he has accumulated and repeated thousands of them. Are you really going to compare that to the few that might crop up from Biden?

so a few lies is ok, but more than a few is not,ok then, wow

[Silverstarqueen]

You said this, not me.
I don't hate Trump, I do totally disrespect his cheating, lying, lawbreaking, not respecting the election process, and the sheer amount of it. I disrespect his intimidating and insulting witnesses,prosecutors, and complainants in legal cases. Every politician probably fudges a few facts, Biden is not perfect. But there is no way you can claim that Biden has even remotely close to the number of lies and seriousness of lies that Trump has. Whether Biden recalls being at Ground zero the very next day, or a week later, is a small difference in comparison to the lies that Trump has been caught out on. so when Biden's lies rise to the level of state or federal cases involving serious criminal conduct and dereliction of duties of the president , then I'd take that just as seriously(to be discussed in a different thread). This thread is about Trump, not about Biden, but you want to deflect from the seriousness of Trump's lies, of which he has accumulated and repeated thousands of them. Are you really going to compare that to the few that might crop up from Biden?

so a few lies is ok, but more than a few is not,ok then, wow

Who told a few more lies? Who told tens of thousands of lies including lies designed to lead others into helping him overturn an election. Many lies, leading to a criminal investigation,andmore lies to cover it up and defend against it.

Would you say that saying he was at Ground Zero on day 2 instead of on day 9 is of similar gravity?
Which lies were worse? Which were far more numerous?

So Biden had some classsified documents that were supposed to be returned. when asked for them, and they were found, he turned them over.

Trump said he didn't have classified documents (turns out he had boxes and boxes of them), and then cooked up a string of lies and tricks to further hide them, even when told repeatedly they had to be returned. He lied to his lawyers about having them, he had to have know he had them because he deliberately removed them and tried to cover up the fact with a bunch more lies. He may have shared them with who knows who, but Americans will never know because Trump would lie about that too. So the volume of the lies and the gravity of them,and the fact he had so many documents puts this activity in a very different category. Now he's going to lie some more to deal with the legal cases against him, to try and further run his lawyers around and he thinks he's going to get off the hook this way.
Do you think his behavior is worse because it involved "a few more lies"? Do you think lying repeatedly in these matters of national security are more grievous and require more legal action taken against that person?

[the truth]

a lie is a lie they both lied

[Dead right]

a lie is a lie they both lied

While most people agree that lies are damaging, destructive, and downright wrong, there are times when people tell what they think are harmless lies as a way to prevent further harm. If you’ve ever told a child that Santa Claus was on his way in his sleigh or that you loved the weird socks that your aunt sent as a gift, you lied. But you can let yourself off the hook.

These were more like white lies. With a real lie, the intent is malicious and the consequence is serious. While with a white lie, often more like a harmless bending of the truth, the intent is benign and positive, and usually, the consequence isn’t major.

From the Very Well mind.

[Silverstarqueen]

a lie is a lie they both lied

So a few lies of lesser gravity is the same as ten thousand lies including those involving illegal activities leading to multiple criminal legal cases?

[65deluxe]

*removed*

[65deluxe]

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But the hate for trump is so blind they will just charge with dough head until the orange idiot is back in place.
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Yup, LOL. Supporting Biden is a lose-lose. The lefties fixation on bad orange man will cost them. And as Mc Dees old jingle goes, Im lovin it.

[Silverstarqueen]

a lie is a lie they both lied

Trump is the only president/former which lied about many classified documents, deliberately refused to return them when asked,and then pressed to do so, AND then further obstructed justice by telling employee(s)to cover up the fact when questioned by authorties. An obstruction of justice lie during an investigation into breaches in national security, is not like saying someone was at an event 7 days later than claimed.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics ... 9d03&ei=18

[Rjamer]

Fact Check: Stephen King Once Said, 'Hard to Believe There Was Ever a World Leader as Dumb as Donald Trump'? ,, https://news.yahoo.com/entertainment/fa ... 00650.html ,,, It is quite amazing how an idiot like Trump can be a world leader but I quess when you take a look at some of the idiots that support him one can understand...

[77TA]

a lie is a lie they both lied

Trump is the only president/former which lied about many classified documents, deliberately refused to return them when asked,and then pressed to do so, AND then further obstructed justice by telling employee(s)to cover up the fact when questioned by authorties. An obstruction of justice lie during an investigation into breaches in national security, is not like saying someone was at an event 7 days later than claimed.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics ... 9d03&ei=18

Yeah, it's a real "rock crusher" and these are the days of our (some people's) lives.

[65deluxe]

Trumps living in many, Many peoples head, rent free. That includes a number of people here.

NBC News and its new "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker are facing intense backlash from colleagues in the liberal media for "platforming" former President Trump.

Welker made her debut as the host of the Peacock network's marquee Sunday news program, taking over for Chuck Todd, who offered his parting message to viewers last week after moderating "Meet the Press" for nine years (though he remains with NBC News).

But liberals were immediately outraged when NBC announced that Trump would be Welker's inaugural guest, and the criticism has only mounted since the interview aired.

Concha told FOX News Digital: "What is especially hilarious and pathetic is how everyone in the industry who is complaining about this interview literally focus on Trump 24/7 themselves,"


https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberals- ... journalism

[65deluxe]

A prime example of someone suffering the mental defects of TDS...

Singer Maren Morris claimed the "Trump years" exposed the bigoted views of people in the country music industry which led to her giving up on the genre.

"After the Trump years, people’s biases were on full display. It just revealed who people really were and that they were proud to be misogynistic and racist and homophobic and transphobic. All these things were being celebrated, and it was weirdly dovetailing with this hyper-masculine branch of country music. I call it butt rock," Morris said.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/country-s ... sic-critic

Can you tell which one is the leftie? Its not hard...

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[Silverstarqueen]

Trumps living in many, Many peoples head, rent free. That includes a number of people here.

NBC News and its new "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker are facing intense backlash from colleagues in the liberal media for "platforming" former President Trump.

Welker made her debut as the host of the Peacock network's marquee Sunday news program, taking over for Chuck Todd, who offered his parting message to viewers last week after moderating "Meet the Press" for nine years (though he remains with NBC News).

But liberals were immediately outraged when NBC announced that Trump would be Welker's inaugural guest, and the criticism has only mounted since the interview aired.

Concha told FOX News Digital: "What is especially hilarious and pathetic is how everyone in the industry who is complaining about this interview literally focus on Trump 24/7 themselves,"


https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberals- ... journalism

Hardly sounds like "outrage". A TV journalist, onher first big show interviews a former President while he's facing 91 very serious state and federal charges on plotting to overthrow an election, hiding classified documents, and happens to be the Republican favorite in future election for president.
Anyone who thinks that is not a news worthy event? is definitely either jealous that she landed the gig (a woman to boot), or is trying to downplay the world of trouble that Trump is in right now, and will be for the next few years at least. This IS a big deal for American Politics and American News. Millions of Republicans, AND millions of "liberals" are going to watch Donald J Trump crash and burn, pilot his own plane straight into the ground as hard as he can. How many will he take down with him, and how many are going to bail before they hit the ground? Trump and the Republicans could have easily avoided this spectacle,and the massive embarassment it is causing his party, but Trump loves to be the centre of attention,and since he couldn't do it with Good Works, he's going to do it by his efforts to destroy his own political party from the inside out.

So now Trump is going to skip the next debate, coward that he is, afraid to be shown up by anyone who is brighter than he is (everyone is brighter than he is) on a debate stage. I hope the remaining candidates can get their "bleep" together because they are the only faint hope for the party to get past Trump. Someone better be ready to carry on the torch because Trump is not the best hope for Republicans in the next election. He would be great for the democrats tho.