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The CIA, the KKK and the USA

by Sherwood Ross

Global Research, October 15, 2010

By assigning covert action roles to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), it is as if the White House and Congress had legitimized the Ku Klux Klan to operate globally. That's because the CIA today resembles nothing so much as the "Invisible Empire" of the KKK that once spread terror across the South and Midwest. Fiery crosses aside, this is what the CIA is doing globally.

The CIA today is committing many of the same sort of gruesome crimes against foreigners that the KKK once inflicted on Americans of color. The principal difference is that the KKK consisted of self-appointed vigilantes who regarded themselves as both outside and above the law when they perpetrated their crimes. By contrast, the CIA acts as the agent of the American government, often at the highest levels, and at times at the direction of the White House. Its crimes typically are committed in contravention of the highest established international law such as the Charter of the United Nations as well as the U.S. Constitution. What's more, the "Agency," as it is known, derives its funding largely from an imperialist-minded Congress; additionally, it has no qualms about fattening its budget from drug money and other illegal sources. It is a mirror-image of the lawless entity the U.S. has become since achieving superpower status. And it is incredible that the White House grants license to this violent Agency to commit its crimes with no accountability. The Ku Klux Klan was founded shortly after the end of the U.S. Civil War. Klansman concealed their identities behind flowing white robes and white hoods as they terrorized the newly emancipated blacks to keep them from voting or to drive them from their property.

Allowing it to operate in secret literally gives the CIA the mythical Ring of Gyges. In Plato's Republic, the owner of the ring had the power to become invisible at will. As Wikipedia puts it, Plato "discusses whether a typical person would be moral if he did not have to fear the consequences of his actions." The ancient Greeks made the argument, Wikipedia says, that "No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a god among men." The CIA, like Hitler's Gestapo and Stalin's NKVD before it, has provided modern man the answer to this question. Its actions illuminate why all criminal entities, from rapists and bank robbers, to Ponzi scheme swindlers and murderers, cloak themselves in secrecy.

There are innumerable examples of how American presidents have authorized criminal acts without public discussion that the preponderant majority of Americans would find reprehensible. Example: it was President Lyndon Johnson who ordered the CIA to meddle in Chile's election to help Eduardo Frei become president. If they had known, U.S. taxpayers might have objected to such a use of their hard-earned money to influence the outcome of another country's elections. But the public is rarely let in on such illegal foreign policy decisions.

Where the KKK after the Civil War terrorized blacks to keep them from voting, the CIA has worked to influence the outcome of elections all over the world through bribery and vote-buying, dirty tricks, and worse. According to investigative reporter William Blum in "Rogue State"(Common Courage Press), the CIA has perverted elections in Italy, Lebanon, Indonesia, The Philippines, Japan, Nepal, Laos, Brazil, Bolivia, Chile, Portugal, Australia, Jamaica, Panama, Nicaragua, Haiti, among other countries. If they had known, taxpayers might also object to the CIA's numerous overthrows of foreign governments by force and violence---such as was done in Iran in 1953 by President Eisenhower and Chile in 1973 by President Nixon.

Both overthrows precipitated bloodbaths that cost tens of thousands of innocent civilians their lives. Blum also lists the countries the CIA has attempted to overthrow or has actually overthrown. His list includes Greece, The Philippines, East Germany, Iran, Guatemala, Indonesia, Iraq, Viet Nam, Laos, Ecuador, The Congo, France, Cuba, Ghana, Chile, South Africa, Bolivia, Portugal, and Nicaragua, to cite a few. As I write, today, October 11th, 2010, Nobel Peace Prize winner Adolfo Perez Esquivel of Argentina called on President Obama to revise U.S. (imperialist) policies toward Latin America. He questioned why the U.S. continues to plant its military bases across the region.

That's an excellent question. If the U.S. is a peace-loving nation, why does it need 800 bases the world over in addition to 1,000 on its own soil? Americans might recoil in disgust if they knew of the CIA's numerous assassinations of the elected officials of other nations. Is it any wonder Americans so often ask the question, "Why do they hate us?" As historian Arnold Toynbee wrote in 1961, "America is today the leader of a world-wide anti-revolutionary movement in the defence of vested interests. She now stands for what Rome stood for. Rome consistently supported the rich against the poor in all foreign communities that fell under her sway; and, since the poor, so far, have always and everywhere been more numerous than the rich, Rome's policy made for inequality, for injustice, and for the least happiness of the greatest number."

The CIA's protective secrecy resembles nothing so much as the KKK, which proudly proclaimed itself "the Invisible Empire" and whose thugs killed citizens having the courage to identify hooded Klansmen to law enforcement officials. Today, it is our highest public officials that protect this criminal force, said to number about 25,000 employees. It is actually a Federal offense to reveal the identity of a CIA undercover agent---unless, of course, you happen to be I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, and are employed by Vice President Dick Cheney. Libby leaked the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame to punish her husband Joseph Wilson for publishing a report that undercut the White House lie that Saddam Hussein had purchased "yellowcake" from Niger to fuel WMD. Today, high public officials direct the CIA's criminal policies and protect its agents' identities the better to enable them to commit their crimes.

According to journalist Fred Cook in his book "Ku Klux Klan: America's Recurring Nightmare"(Messner), "The Klan was inherently a vigilante organization. It could commit the most atrocious acts under the guise of high principle andperpetrators of those acts would be hidden behind white masks and protected by Klan secrecy... (The Klan) set itself up as judge, jury and executioner"---a policy adopted by the CIA today.

CIA spies have conducted their criminal operations masquerading as officials of U.S. aid programs, business executives, or journalists. Example: The San Diego-based Copley News Service's staff of foreign correspondents allegedly was created to provide cover to CIA spies, compromising legitimate American journalists trying to do their jobs. While the murders committed by the KKK likely ran into the many thousands, the CIA has killed on a far grander scale and managed to keep its role largely secret.

As Tim Weiner, who covered the CIA for the New York Times noted in his book "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA" (Anchor): "In Guatemala, 200,000 civilians had died during forty years of struggle following the agency's(CIA) 1954 coup against an elected president." Weiner adds, "the CIA's officers in Guatemala still went to great lengths to conceal the nature of their close relations with the military and to suppress reports that Guatemalan officers on its payroll were murderers, torturers, and thieves." When it comes to murder, the CIA makes the KKK look like Boy Scouts.

Like the KKK, CIA terrorists operate above the law. KKK members committed thousands of lynchings yet rarely were its members punished for them. In 2009 at a speech at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, President Obama revealed he was not intent on punishing CIA agents for their crimes but would rather "look forward." This seemingly charitable philosophy may be driven by the fact that Obama worked for Business International Corporation, a CIA front, at least in 1983 and perhaps longer, and allegedly is the son of a mother and father both of whom also worked for the CIA, as did Obama's grandmother! I could find none of this in Obama's biography when he ran for the presidency, when a gullible American public elected a CIA "mole" to the White House.

Consider this, too: an agency President Truman feared would become "an American Gestapo" when he signed the enabling legislation into law in 1947 has become just that, and it casts a lengthy shadow over the White House. Ominously, it has in Barack Obama one of its own former employees sitting in the Oval Office---a man who, according to news reports, has vastly expanded the frequency of the CIA's assassinations by drone aircraft in Pakistan and who illegally claims the "right" to assassinate any American citizen abroad as well. What's more, from 1989 to 1993 George Bush Sr., the CIA's own former Director, sat in the White House.

Additionally, from 2001 to 2009, the CIA had that Director's son, George W. Bush, in the Oval Office giving the CIA a blank check after the 9/11 massacre. Bush Jr., according to The New York Times, in the summer of 1974 worked for Alaska International Industries, which did contract work for the CIA. The Times noted that this job did not appear in his biography when he ran for the White House in 2000, terming it "The Missing Chapter in the Bush Bio." Thus, two presidential candidates with CIA ties---Bush Jr. and Obama---both neglected to mention them. And in Bill Clinton, who presided from 1993 to 2001, the CIA had a go-along president who satisfied the Agency's blood-lust when he authorized the first illegal "rendition," a euphemism for what KKK thugs once knew as kidnapping and torture. Is there any question that the Agency has not played an influential, behind-the-scenes or even a direct role in the operations of the U.S. government at its highest level? It may indeed be a stretch to argue that the CIA is running the country but it is no stretch to say that year after year our presidents reflect the criminal philosophy of the Agency.

Other parallels with the KKK are striking. As Richmond Flowers, the Attorney General of Alabama stated in 1966, "I've found the Klan more than just another secret society... It resembles a shadow government, making its own laws, manipulating local politics, burrowing into some of our local law-enforcement agencies...When a pitiable misfit puts on his $15 sheet, society can no longer ignore him." Yet the descendants of those misfits have moved up today where they feel comfortable as operatives in the shadow government run by the White House. One of the CIA's illicit duties has been to serve as a conduit for funneling U.S. taxpayer dollars to corrupt dictators and strongmen bent on suppressing the popular will of their citizenry. As Noam Chomsky wrote in "Failed States"(Metropolitan/Owl), in Honduras, "military officers in charge of the battalion (3-16) were on the CIA payroll." This elite unit, he says, "organized and trained by the United States and Argentine neo-Nazis," was "the most barbaric of the Latin American killers that Washington had been supporting."

Like the KKK, the CIA kidnaps many of its victims with no thought ever of legal procedure. It exhibits utter disdain for the rights of those individuals, the sovereignty of foreign nations, or respect for international law. At least hundreds of foreigners, mostly from the Middle East, have been the victims of "renditions" just as the KKK kidnapped and flogged and lynched blacks, labor leaders, Catholics, Jews, or wayward wives whom it felt to be morally lacking. In September, 1921, The New York World ran a series exposing the KKK. It pointed out that, among other things, the KKK was violating the Bill of Rights wholesale. This included the Fourth amendment against "unreasonable searches and seizures," the Fifth and the Sixth amendments, guaranteeing that no one may be held without a grand jury indictment or punished without a fair trial. And these rights today are similarly trampled by the CIA against American citizens, not just foreigners.

Apparently, only foreign courts care to rein in the CIA. The 23 CIA agents that it took to render one "suspect" in Italy are wanted there by the magistrates. (The spooks, by the way, ran up some fabulous bills in luxury hotels on taxpayers' dollars in that escapade.) Former President Jimmy Carter wrote in his book "Our Endangered Values"(Simon & Schuster), the CIA transferred some of those it kidnapped to countries that included Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Morocco, Jordan, and Uzbekistan where "the techniques of torture are almost indescribably terrible, including, as a U.S. ambassador to one of the recipient countries reported, 'partial boiling of a hand or an arm,' with at least two prisoners boiled to death." The KKK's methods of punishment were often as ugly: the brutal flogging of blacks in front of vicious crowds, followed by castration and burning their victims alive, and then lynching of the corpses. As for the CIA, "Why?" asks investigative reporter William Blum, "are these men rendered in the first place if not to be tortured? Does the United States not have any speakers in foreign languages to conduct interrogations?"

That the CIA is a terrorist organization was upheld in the famous "CIA On Trial" case in Northampton, Mass., in 1987, when a jury acquitted 14 protestors who tried to stop CIA recruitment on campus, according to Francis Boyle, the University of Illinois international law authority who defended the group. The defense charged the CIA was "an organized criminal conspiracy like the SS and the Gestapo." Boyle said, "You would not let the SS or the Gestapo recruit on campus at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, so you would not permit the CIA to recruit on campus either."

Another shared characteristic of the KKK and CIA is greed, the desire to loot the hard-earned wealth of others. Often, Klansmen terrorized African-Americans who had amassed property to frighten them off their land. Law-abiding black citizens who had pulled themselves up by the proverbial bootstraps were cheated out of their homes and acreage by the night riders.

Similarly, the CIA across Latin America has aligned itself with the well-to-do ruling class at every opportunity. It has cooperated with the elite to punish and murder labor leaders and clergy who espoused economic opportunity for the poor. The notion that allowing the poor to enrich themselves fairly will also create more wealth for an entire society generally, including the rich, has not permeated CIA thinking. I emphasize what historian Toynbee noted: "America is today the leader of a world-wide anti-revolutionary movement in the defence of vested interests. She now stands for what Rome stood for."(Italics added.)

In sum, by adopting the terrorist philosophy of the KKK and elevating it to the operations of government at the highest level, the imperial Obama administration, like its predecessors, is showing the world the worst possible face of America. Foreigners do not see the goodness inherent in the American people---most of whom only want a good day's pay for a good day's work and to educate their children and live at peace with the world. Every adult American has a solemn obligation to demand that its government live up to international law, punish the CIA criminals in its midst, and become a respected citizen of the world. This will not come to pass until Congress abolishes the CIA, putting an end to its KKK-style terrorism which threatens Americans as well as humankind everywhere.


Sherwood Ross is an American who has worked as a reporter for the Chicago Daily News, a columnist for wire services and as the News Director of a national civil rights organization. He currently operates the Anti-War News Service from Miami, Florida. To contribute to his work or reach him, email [email protected]

Sherwood Ross is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global Research Articles by Sherwood Ross
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CIA Mind Control Experiments
Declassified Documents Reveal Sex Abuse, More
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"On 2 July 1951 approximately 1:00 p.m. the instruction began with [deleted] relating to the student some of his sexual experiences. [Deleted] stated that he had constantly used hypnotism as a means of inducing young girls to engage in sexual intercourse with him. [Deleted], a performer in [deleted] orchestra, was forced to engage in sexual intercourse with [deleted] while under the influence of hypnotism. [Deleted] stated that he first put her into a hypnotic trance and then suggested to her that he was her husband and that she desired sexual intercourse with him."
-- Declassified CIA Document #140393, p. 1, dated July 9, 1951, original document available here


Dear friends,

The astonishing excerpts below (available here), taken verbatim from declassified CIA documents, reveal detailed, successful experiments and even blatant sex abuse in highly secret, government-sponsored mind control experiments. Through hypnosis, drugs, and electric shock, CIA clinicians fractured personalities and induced multiple personality disorder (MPD) – also called dissociative identity disorder (DID). These top secret experiments were successful in creating Manchurian Candidates or super spies programmed to carry out sexual favors, assassination, and other terrorist acts without any conscious knowledge of what they were doing. The army of Manchurian Candidates created has played a key, hidden role in world politics.

To verify this startling information, links are provided to scanned images of the revealing original CIA documents. Instructions are also available here to order for yourself any of these documents directly from the CIA using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Though dating from the 1950s and 60s, these revealing documents were not released for decades for reasons of "national security." The U.S. government claims mind control experiments are no longer being carried out, yet how can we know? The existence of these programs was denied for decades, and certainly any recent documents would be classified secret under the rubric of "national security."

A trusted CIA informant I know assures me that these programs are ongoing. These disturbing methods are used by various countries in clandestine operations around the world. Many might prefer not to look at these ugly wounds to the soul of our nation and world. Yet if we avoid or ignore them, they are likely to grow and fester. Only by having the courage to look into the shadow parts of our world can we first understand and then begin to heal these wounds. See the What You Can Do section near the bottom of this essay for more valuable information and suggestions on how you can help bring this vital information to light.

With best wishes for a brighter future,
Fred Burks for PEERS and the WantToKnow.info Team
Former language interpreter for Presidents Bush and Clinton

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COOL. Retail merchandisers would pay big bucks for this information and technology. I wonder why it hasn't caught on since 1951?
Can you provide further info as to where I can obtain the ability to acquire sex with....ummm.......hypnotism? I do know from practical experiences that I too have been hypnotised by a bikini clad rollerblader on Bernard Avenue....I can attest to the fact that I almost ran over an unsuspecting pedestrian while in a trance. I have no or little recollection of the circumstances leading up to the point where my wife/passenger slapped back into reality. Thank, (Sir Isaac Newton) that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and sometimes painful consequence, for my lack of attention.
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MineralDoc wrote:COOL. Retail merchandisers would pay big bucks for this information and technology. I wonder why it hasn't caught on since 1951?
Can you provide further info as to where I can obtain the ability to acquire sex with....ummm.......hypnotism? I do know from practical experiences that I too have been hypnotised by a bikini clad rollerblader on Bernard Avenue....I can attest to the fact that I almost ran over an unsuspecting pedestrian while in a trance. I have no or little recollection of the circumstances leading up to the point where my wife/passenger slapped back into reality. Thank, (Sir Isaac Newton) that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and sometimes painful consequence, for my lack of attention.


:dyinglaughing: Couldn't get passed the first paragraph, eh? Oh well, you can lead a horse to water...
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peaceseeker wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:COOL. Retail merchandisers would pay big bucks for this information and technology. I wonder why it hasn't caught on since 1951?
Can you provide further info as to where I can obtain the ability to acquire sex with....ummm.......hypnotism? I do know from practical experiences that I too have been hypnotised by a bikini clad rollerblader on Bernard Avenue....I can attest to the fact that I almost ran over an unsuspecting pedestrian while in a trance. I have no or little recollection of the circumstances leading up to the point where my wife/passenger slapped back into reality. Thank, (Sir Isaac Newton) that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and sometimes painful consequence, for my lack of attention.


:dyinglaughing: Couldn't get passed the first paragraph, eh? Oh well, you can lead a horse to water...


You are absolutely right. I could not get past the first paragraph. By the time I got 1/2 way into the second, I was on the floor with a terrible side splitting pain. My cheeks are still expressing their discomfort of having been stretched beyond the boundaries that they have become accustomed to over the years. Even as I type this reply, my Buccinator muscles are causing me both pain and pleasure.
You may be able to lead a horse to water but even a horse knows the difference between fresh and fecal infested H2O. Some may sip with the ability to determine the difference and others just gulp from the trough of what they are provided. I prefer to sniff and use my ability to think for myself and rely upon past experiences to help guide me through ...........ah...why do I believe that I am now wasting my time consuming, limited typing abilities on a gulper?
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MineralDoc wrote:
peaceseeker wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:COOL. Retail merchandisers would pay big bucks for this information and technology. I wonder why it hasn't caught on since 1951?
Can you provide further info as to where I can obtain the ability to acquire sex with....ummm.......hypnotism? I do know from practical experiences that I too have been hypnotised by a bikini clad rollerblader on Bernard Avenue....I can attest to the fact that I almost ran over an unsuspecting pedestrian while in a trance. I have no or little recollection of the circumstances leading up to the point where my wife/passenger slapped back into reality. Thank, (Sir Isaac Newton) that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and sometimes painful consequence, for my lack of attention.


:dyinglaughing: Couldn't get passed the first paragraph, eh? Oh well, you can lead a horse to water...


You are absolutely right. I could not get past the first paragraph. By the time I got 1/2 way into the second, I was on the floor with a terrible side splitting pain. My cheeks are still expressing their discomfort of having been stretched beyond the boundaries that they have become accustomed to over the years. Even as I type this reply, my Buccinator muscles are causing me both pain and pleasure.
You may be able to lead a horse to water but even a horse knows the difference between fresh and fecal infested H2O. Some may sip with the ability to determine the difference and others just gulp from the trough of what they are provided. I prefer to sniff and use my ability to think for myself and rely upon past experiences to help guide me through ...........ah...why do I believe that I am now wasting my time consuming, limited typing abilities on a gulper?


I'm sorry you are able to laugh at such disturbing information.

You do realize that what is being discussed here are declassified CIA documents showing the use of hypnotism for various means/experiments?...including repeated sexual abuse and faux assassinations?

I know you never read anything more than the first paragraph of my original post...here's the link again...
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control ... _sex_abuse
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I have seen your comment and I will respond when I have a little more time. Right now I am just too busy with replying to all the emails and comments about contrails.
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MineralDoc wrote:I have seen your comment and I will respond when I have a little more time. Right now I am just too busy with replying to all the emails and comments about contrails.


:coffeecanuck: A legend in his own mind. Do you really believe this stuff you are writing?
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kompili wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:I have seen your comment and I will respond when I have a little more time. Right now I am just too busy with replying to all the emails and comments about contrails.


:coffeecanuck: A legend in his own mind. Do you really believe this stuff you are writing?



Yes, I do. More to the point, "Do you believe the stuff you are cut and pasting" without fully researching and examining what you are putting your support behind? Apparently there are a fair number of others out there that have been intimidated by you and your cast of supporters.
I am just starting to understand as to why there is lack of others taking these threads to task. I too am becoming weary of this already, with all of the personal attacks and lack of evidence. It really has become a one-sided conglomeration of 4 people against all outsiders that dare to question the validity of the cited sources and the contents.
I have yet to determine what is the motivation behind all of this. There are many possibilities, but I will require further observations to support my hypothesis. Please keep talking, I will be back soon.
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MineralDoc wrote:
kompili wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:I have seen your comment and I will respond when I have a little more time. Right now I am just too busy with replying to all the emails and comments about contrails.


:coffeecanuck: A legend in his own mind. Do you really believe this stuff you are writing?



Yes, I do. More to the point, "Do you believe the stuff you are cut and pasting" without fully researching and examining what you are putting your support behind? Apparently there are a fair number of others out there that have been intimidated by you and your cast of supporters.
I am just starting to understand as to why there is lack of others taking these threads to task. I too am becoming weary of this already, with all of the personal attacks and lack of evidence. It really has become a one-sided conglomeration of 4 people against all outsiders that dare to question the validity of the cited sources and the contents.
I have yet to determine what is the motovation behind all of this. There are many possibilties, but I will require further observations to support my hypothesis. Please keep talking, I will be back soon.


Did you ever considered that people have seen the truth behind the curtain, and have woke up. Not like yourself, still hiding behind the lie that we live in a perfect world, ran by honest people. Time to take off your rose colored glasses and join the rest of us.
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kompili wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:
kompili wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:I have seen your comment and I will respond when I have a little more time. Right now I am just too busy with replying to all the emails and comments about contrails.


:coffeecanuck: A legend in his own mind. Do you really believe this stuff you are writing?



Yes, I do. More to the point, "Do you believe the stuff you are cut and pasting" without fully researching and examining what you are putting your support behind? Apparently there are a fair number of others out there that have been intimidated by you and your cast of supporters.
I am just starting to understand as to why there is lack of others taking these threads to task. I too am becoming weary of this already, with all of the personal attacks and lack of evidence. It really has become a one-sided conglomeration of 4 people against all outsiders that dare to question the validity of the cited sources and the contents.
I have yet to determine what is the motivation behind all of this. There are many possibilities, but I will require further observations to support my hypothesis. Please keep talking, I will be back soon.


Did you ever considered that people have seen the truth behind the curtain, and have woke up. Not like yourself, still hiding behind the lie that we live in a perfect world, ran by honest people. Time to take off your rose colored glasses and join the rest of us.



Yes, I do recognize that some can see truth through all the trees. I don't believe that this is a perfect world, country, province or city. I have both of my eyes wide open and I do not own a pair of "rose coloured glasses". (By the way, colour is spelled with a "u", only Americans spell it color.) It has become quite apparent that it is you that is not open to accepting alternative possibilities to the answers that you seek. You have made it very clear to all that your mind is made up and there is no changing it. You are right and everyone else is an idiot for doubting your word for it regardless of you lack of evidence to support it.
Anyone that would blindly follow you without doubt and with all of their faculties intact, is not someone that I want on my team if I was to take sides. (Which, I haven't). I possess a very analytical mind and have been told that I have great patience. I am fully prepared to wait, watch and ask questions when I have doubt. I am not willing to accept anything from those that have attacked me and try to cram their beliefs down my throat.
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That is very good for you. Just being new to these forums. (cough, cough)I would suggest you watch and learn from the people that have been battling away here for a long time with facts and common sense like myself. Just to let you know, all your comments have been off topic, but being new here, I have had patience with you, and have let it slid. By the way, I like spelling color, the states way, saves ink. HAHAHA. Just some forum humor. Yes, I know, humor is spelled the US way. Who knows, I just be somewhere down in the states.
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kompili wrote:That is very good for you. Just being new to these forums. (cough, cough)I would suggest you watch and learn from the people that have been battling away here for a long time with facts and common sense like myself. Just to let you know, all your comments have been off topic, but being new here, I have had patience with you, and have let it slid. By the way, I like spelling color, the states way, saves ink. HAHAHA. Just some forum humor. Yes, I know, humor is spelled the US way. Who knows, I just be somewhere down in the states.



For your information, I have not been the one that has been derailing these threads. In fact, I have been lead astray by you and your friends with the constant bombardment of personal attacks. I have tried many times to get back on topic but, without success. Please read back for evidence of the facts. I now understand your personal choice to use non-Canadian English spelling but don't understand the meaning of;
Who knows, I just be somewhere down in the states.

If you are in the States, then why are you constantly complaining about how "your" tax dollars are being wasted on Kelowna infrastructure? Which is the truth?
Now that is out of the way, can we now return to the topic of the thread without further derailments by you or your friends?
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Re: The CIA

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peaceseeker wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:
peaceseeker wrote:
MineralDoc wrote:COOL. Retail merchandisers would pay big bucks for this information and technology. I wonder why it hasn't caught on since 1951?
Can you provide further info as to where I can obtain the ability to acquire sex with....ummm.......hypnotism? I do know from practical experiences that I too have been hypnotised by a bikini clad rollerblader on Bernard Avenue....I can attest to the fact that I almost ran over an unsuspecting pedestrian while in a trance. I have no or little recollection of the circumstances leading up to the point where my wife/passenger slapped back into reality. Thank, (Sir Isaac Newton) that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and sometimes painful consequence, for my lack of attention.


:dyinglaughing: Couldn't get passed the first paragraph, eh? Oh well, you can lead a horse to water...


You are absolutely right. I could not get past the first paragraph. By the time I got 1/2 way into the second, I was on the floor with a terrible side splitting pain. My cheeks are still expressing their discomfort of having been stretched beyond the boundaries that they have become accustomed to over the years. Even as I type this reply, my Buccinator muscles are causing me both pain and pleasure.
You may be able to lead a horse to water but even a horse knows the difference between fresh and fecal infested H2O. Some may sip with the ability to determine the difference and others just gulp from the trough of what they are provided. I prefer to sniff and use my ability to think for myself and rely upon past experiences to help guide me through ...........ah...why do I believe that I am now wasting my time consuming, limited typing abilities on a gulper?


I'm sorry you are able to laugh at such disturbing information.

You do realize that what is being discussed here are declassified CIA documents showing the use of hypnotism for various means/experiments?...including repeated sexual abuse and faux assassinations?

I know you never read anything more than the first paragraph of my original post...here's the link again...
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control ... _sex_abuse




Firstly, first paragraph provided is cut and pasted from; http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control ... _sex_abuse

"On 2 July 1951 approximately 1:00 p.m. the instruction began with [deleted] relating to the student some of his sexual experiences. [Deleted] stated that he had constantly used hypnotism as a means of inducing young girls to engage in sexual intercourse with him. [Deleted], a performer in [deleted] orchestra, was forced to engage in sexual intercourse with [deleted] while under the influence of hypnotism. [Deleted] stated that he first put her into a hypnotic trance and then suggested to her that he was her husband and that she desired sexual intercourse with him."


-- Declassified CIA Document #140393, p. 1, dated July 9, 1951, original document available here



The link contained within; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate

Even Wikipedia has the sense to provide a disclaimer even before allowed to read the information that states;
This article needs additional citations for verification.

Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (January 2010)




The article concludes with; The novel has been cinematically adapted twice, in 1962 and 2004.



Second paragraph.

To verify this startling information, links are provided to scanned images of the revealing original CIA documents. Instructions are also available here to order for yourself any of these documents directly from the CIA using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Though dating from the 1950s and 60s, these revealing documents were not released for decades for reasons of "national security." The U.S. government claims mind control experiments are no longer being carried out, yet how can we know? The existence of these programs was denied for decades, and certainly any recent documents would be classified secret under the rubric of "national security."




The link leads you to:
send a check for $30 made payable to.




Summary.

The rest of the document provides similar links that all eventually lead to the same place that end with:


We welcome donations by credit card, check, or money order. For check or money order, see postal directions below. We very much welcome automatic monthly donations by credit card, which can easily be arranged using the links below the postal directions. And for those who make a major contribution, we have a special invitation.



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Conclusion.
From the original documents (that can be purchased for $30) you can see what "they" are calling evidence. From these 1950's-1960's declassified CIA documents, there has been one novel written and two Hollywood movies.
The noted document is a sensationalized “attention getter” that takes you on a trip and no matter which path you chose to take, they all lead to the same destination. Your money.

I hope that others read these materials to the very end and check my facts. Do not take my word for it, check it out for yourself. I recognize the physiological tactics being employed to get people all excited, then to make them angry, followed by fear and finally a cure for the disturbing feelings that the document has caused you, all for a reasonable price of course.

I am very sorry to report that the information that was supplied by you is not really "information" after a closer look for truth. I have purposely not attempted to discredit the essay, that was done by the document itself. I am a little irritated that it was a waste of time but, I guess whenever you are able to learn something, it has some value, regardless of how minuscule. I suppose if I hadn't seen so many similar pieces of shameless advertising prior to this one, I would have learned much more.
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