Terrorist attacks around the world

[The Green Barbarian]

Meanwhile, these lovely guys blew up 8 people in Nigeria yesterday. They look like Jesuits to me...

Eight people were killed and seven other injured near Gwoza in northeast Nigeria’s Borno state when a vehicle hit a roadside bomb on Monday, March 18, security sources told AFP.

Military and civilian militia sources blamed Boko Haram for planting the mine, underlining the persistent threat to civilians in the remote region.

One vehicle, part of a civilian convoy under military escort, veered off the road in an attempt to overtake another vehicle when it hit the device.

“The vehicle exploded and all the eight people inside were killed,” said a military officer. “Seven more people from the other vehicle we’re injured from the explosion.”

The convoy had left Gwoza and was heading to Pulka around 18 km (11 miles) away when the incident occurred at about 10 a.m. at Warabe village, around 5 km (3 miles) south of Pulka, civilian militia leader Umar Ari said.

Gwoza is near the border with Cameroon, around 100 km southeast of Borno state capital Maiduguri, and the Boko Haram faction led by Abubakar Shekau is known to be active in the area.

There were also reports of Boko Haram attacks on Monday in Michika Local Government Area of neighbouring Adamawa state, around 70 km southwest of Gwoza.

https://thedefensepost.com/2019/03/19/b ... a-nigeria/

[Glacier]

Moving on from "the truth's" incomprehensible tirade, I just read this article from Douglas Murray... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/w ... -atrocity/

Got anything else that doesn't fade away in 5 seconds?

Try this: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/w ... t3NCV30JiY

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Try this: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/w ... t3NCV30JiY

Thanks for the more convenient piece. I disagree with some of argument for multiple reasons. It assumes that the manifesto writer was being disingenuous with his praise of Owens. I see little to really suggest such, though it is a possibility. It's also similarly likely a possibility that the manifesto writer was actually trying to bring focus to the bigotry which Muslims frequently face today and as such the attack was to paint those who express such bigotry in a bad light. It's basically just conspiracy theory stuff.

Additionally, it lumps all commentary re the Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal in together, when there is clearly a difference between how the likes of Robinson and the many decent and respectful journalists have addressed these issues. Simply put, some of the commentary is helpful, and some of it just an excuse to express bigotry and hatred. To be fair, this kind of approach isn't limited to discussion re Muslims, but in Western societies it's just much more prevalent and seemingly socially acceptable when it is.

It completely ignores the fact that thought leaders do influence their followers, and some of their followers will take it further than such intend. This has happened many times throughout history. Such influence has consequences, and at this point relatively predictable ones. If an Islamist cleric encourages Jihad against Western ways, we might rightly say that they bear some responsibility for the actions of their followers, even when such turn violent. When someone says: "Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens... you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end... and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again." Do you deny that they are targeting Muslims with a threat of violence? How about "Islam is not up for reform or negotiation – so we have no other choice than to fight it."?

Frankly, this piece ignores the fact that we can have a discussion, respectful, honest and complete without descending to demonising others for their religion or even lack of. The problem is when those who are pushing an agenda based in bigotry pretend to be just having an honest discussion and deny that their words have consequences, including the deaths of innocent people, just because they didn't explicitly call for that particular act of violence. They resort to whataboutism, bringing up other acts as justification, deflect by asking why we don't look at other events, or point to rising tensions between groups as an excuse for the outcome, ignoring the very fact that they were complicit in creating these rising tensions.

The fact is that this shooter didn't just pop into existence in a vacuum. He and his views were nurtured by certain aspects of society and he expressed as much in his manifesto. We accept this behaviour happens for those who are radicalised and commit atrocities in the name of ISIS or even Islam, why would we reject such when it comes to a white-supremacist?

[Brass Monkey]

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2019/03/20 ... ocumentary

Recently released documentary put together by a former Marine cameraman who saw combat in the middle east. A little blip of the reality of US involvement in the middle east. Around 250,000 civilians killed by the US and counting, does this fall under the right category?

[the truth]

Meanwhile, these lovely guys blew up 8 people in Nigeria yesterday. They look like Jesuits to me...

Eight people were killed and seven other injured near Gwoza in northeast Nigeria’s Borno state when a vehicle hit a roadside bomb on Monday, March 18, security sources told AFP.

Military and civilian militia sources blamed Boko Haram for planting the mine, underlining the persistent threat to civilians in the remote region.

One vehicle, part of a civilian convoy under military escort, veered off the road in an attempt to overtake another vehicle when it hit the device.

“The vehicle exploded and all the eight people inside were killed,” said a military officer. “Seven more people from the other vehicle we’re injured from the explosion.”

The convoy had left Gwoza and was heading to Pulka around 18 km (11 miles) away when the incident occurred at about 10 a.m. at Warabe village, around 5 km (3 miles) south of Pulka, civilian militia leader Umar Ari said.

Gwoza is near the border with Cameroon, around 100 km southeast of Borno state capital Maiduguri, and the Boko Haram faction led by Abubakar Shekau is known to be active in the area.

There were also reports of Boko Haram attacks on Monday in Michika Local Government Area of neighbouring Adamawa state, around 70 km southwest of Gwoza.

https://thedefensepost.com/2019/03/19/b ... a-nigeria/

many on here have no interest in the truth ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[The Green Barbarian]

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2019/03/20/combat-obscura-marines-war-documentary

Recently released documentary put together by a former Marine cameraman who saw combat in the middle east. A little blip of the reality of US involvement in the middle east. Around 250,000 civilians killed by the US and counting, does this fall under the right category?

No.

[The Green Barbarian]

[the truth]

the truth ^^^

[Jonrox]

I watched part of the video above and although he uses attacks in Nigeria on Christians as an example of the media not caring about attacks if it doesn't serve the left's agenda, he has the reason wrong as to why it and attacks like it go under-reported.

It's the same reason the thousands of attacks on Muslims by Islamic extremists also go unreported... it's not because the attacks don't matter to the left, it's because they don't matter to anyone. It may be a bit harsh to say it and I think Heath Ledger's Joker said it best:

You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds.

People don't get worked up over a lot of terrorist attacks even though they are equally or much worse than the attacks that make the news because people "expect" a lot of them to happen. Whether you want to admit it or not, seeing news about another dozen or two dozen or 200 people being killed in Iraq or Afghanistan barely even registers with you because "those things are supposed to happen".

But an attack on a mosque in New Zealand isn't "supposed to happen", so people panic and they pay attention.

It's not a right vs left issue with the way the media reports on these incidents. Neither the left nor right-leaning media outlets report on these attacks because we don't really care that they happened. The apathy isn't right or fair and it's hard to justify why we act or don't act the way we do.... but that's the truth.

[The Green Barbarian]

It's not a right vs left issue with the way the media reports on these incidents. Neither the left nor right-leaning media outlets report on these attacks. It's not right and it's hard to justify why we act or don't act the way we do.... but that's the truth.

I think you missed the main point of his video, which is that this attack was immediately labeled a "white supremacist right wing" attack by the Left, without even understanding or knowing all of the facts. We see posters in this thread still making that assumption. Did you see the idiots that were demanding that suddenly thousands of people on the right be banned?? It's lunacy, and horrible. Thousands of people should lose their right to free speech, because some Leftists say so, using this tragedy as their excuse. Just disgusting.

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It's not a right vs left issue with the way the media reports on these incidents. Neither the left nor right-leaning media outlets report on these attacks. It's not right and it's hard to justify why we act or don't act the way we do.... but that's the truth.

I think you missed the main point of his video, which is that this attack was immediately labeled a "white supremacist right wing" attack by the Left, without even understanding or knowing all of the facts. We see posters in this thread still making that assumption. Did you see the idiots that were demanding that suddenly thousands of people on the right be banned?? It's lunacy, and horrible. Thousands of people should lose their right to free speech, because some Leftists say so, using this tragedy as their excuse. Just disgusting.

You're the one trying to turn it into a left v. right issue. Nobody here is demanding that anyone be banned, especially not for just being right-wing.
Personally, all I expect is that we apply the same level of condemnation to those in our society who espouse hatred, ignorance and bigotry, no matter which group of people they target. If you're going to condemn the thought leaders who lead terrorists to join ISIS and engage in horrific acts, but deny the same to this terrorist's thought leaders, then you are simply a hypocrite and part of the reason for the current rise in extremism in Western societies.
Until we address the problems created by this terrorist's thought leaders, until we accept that they are fuelling a rise in extremism, until we reject their bigoted apologist rhetoric, we will fail to address this increasing problem and there will be more violence by those who follow them.

[Glacier]

Like Chelsea Clinton?

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Like Chelsea Clinton?

No. Like PJ Watson. Like Faith Goldy. Like Lauren Southern. Like Tommy Robinson. Like The Golden One (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN0-RRaxMgh86eOwndAklxw). Like The Daily Shoah. Like much of the stuff on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/nahdaproduction/videos.

[The Green Barbarian]

You're the one trying to turn it into a left v. right issue.

Oh good grief, what a load of nonsense. Just complete foolishness.

Nobody here is demanding that anyone be banned, especially not for just being right-wing.

watch the video, that was what I was referencing.

but deny the same to this terrorist's thought leaders, then you are simply a hypocrite

Good grief, now you are selling a bogus and insane narrative about this shooter having "thought leaders"!!! What a load of crap!! My goodness, the silliness is out of control here. PJW was right on.

[The Green Barbarian]

No. Like PJ Watson. Like Faith Goldy. Like Lauren Southern. Like Tommy Robinson. Like The Golden One (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN0-RRaxMgh86eOwndAklxw). Like The Daily Shoah. Like much of the stuff on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/nahdaproduction/videos.

This is a false narrative. What else is new. This is EXACTLY what PJW was talking about. And you even name him in your drive-by smear. So ridiculous.