Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Busher » Jan 20th, 2019, 5:04 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Ka-El wrote:What is even more telling is his base just goes with the flow convinced he is the only source of truth. Cult-like.


Speaking of cult-like, how bad does the cult-like alt-left look like today?



and they look even stupider today with the Catholic kids debacle in Washington...the hate is so strong media and the left quick to go after students and then video comes out they did really nothing...
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Vacancyrate » Jan 22nd, 2019, 8:36 pm

Beyond BuzzFeed: The 10 Worst, Most Embarrassing U.S. Media Failures on the Trump-Russia Story

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/bey ... sia-story/

All proven false. Most news outlets didn't even issue retractions or corrections.

Remember that each one of this fake news stories was accompanied with 100's of editorials calling for a war with Russia, impeachment and advocating a military take over of the White House, along with 1000's of "BOOM's" and "THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN" and "THIS IS THE END FOR TRUMP"

All fake, rumor and anonymous propaganda sourced news stories.

10. RT Hacked Into and Took Over C-SPAN (Fortune)

9. Russian Hackers Invaded the U.S. Electricity Grid to Deny Vermonters Heat During the Winter (WashPost)

8. A New Anonymous Group Declares Mainstream Political Sites on the Left and Right to be Russian Propaganda Outlets and WashPost Touts its Report to Claim Massive Kremlin Infiltration of the Internet (WashPost)

7. Trump Aide Anthony Scaramucci is Involved in a Russian Hedge Fund Under Senate Investigation (CNN)

6. Russia Attacked U.S. “Diplomats” (i.e. Spies) at the Cuban Embassy Using a Super-Sophisticated Sonic Microwave Weapon (NBC/MSNBC/CIA)

5. Trump Created a Secret Internet Server to Covertly Communicate with a Russian Bank (Slate)

4. Paul Manafort Visited Julian Assange Three Times in the Ecuadorian Embassy and Nobody Noticed (Guardian/Luke Harding)

3. CNN Explicitly Lied About Lanny Davis Being Its Source – For a Story Whose Substance Was Also False: Cohen Would Testify that Trump Knew in Advance About the Trump Tower Meeting (CNN)

2. Robert Mueller Possesses Internal Emails and Witness Interviews Proving Trump Directed Cohen to Lie to Congress (BuzzFeed)

1. Donald Trump Jr. Was Offered Advanced Access to the WikiLeaks Email Archive (CNN/MSNBC)
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby floppi » Jan 22nd, 2019, 10:54 pm

I can't blame the media, who can possibly keep up with this buffoon's chronic lying.

The 'exhausting' work of factcheckers who track Trump's barrage of lies


Since taking office, Trump has made 7,645 ‘false or misleading claims’. In October he said 1,200 things that were false or misleading, according to Fact Checker databas...........

Donald Trump’s tumultuous presidency has presented problems for journalists the world over. But spare a thought for the people whose job it is to keep track of his lies: the Trump factcheckers.

Since taking office, the president has lied about everything from immigration figures to the number of burgers he served to the Clemson football team at the White House last week.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ctcheckers

Trump lies so much even the journalists and fact checkers have trouble keeping up with his lies.

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker tallied up the total of Mr Trump’s false statements and downright lies from Inauguration Day to January 20, 2019, and the number is astonishing: 8,158.

Furthermore, approximately 6,000 of the 8,158 false statements were made in 2018. 


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40721.html

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Vacancyrate » Jan 23rd, 2019, 1:22 am

floppi wrote:I can't blame the media, who can possibly keep up with this buffoon's chronic lying.


Trump talking like a reality TV Star has nothing to do with MSNBC and CNN employing former intelligence officers and making bold claims that Russia is using "sonic waves" to attack US embassies when infact it was crickets making noise.

Basically many of you are so thirsty to take a shot at Trump that you've empowered the mass media to feed you liquid crack cocaine gotcha headlines about Trump and you dont even care if they are factual - just so long as you get your fix for 24 hours.

Here I'll cook you guys up a new fix.

BOOM THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN ON TRUMP

Trump possibly flew to Russia more than 1 time in the 1990's says source (... source that worked for Hillary Clinton and was a former CIA officer...)

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby floppi » Jan 23rd, 2019, 7:48 am

Vacancyrate wrote:
floppi wrote:I can't blame the media, who can possibly keep up with this buffoon's chronic lying.


Trump talking like a reality TV Star has nothing to do with MSNBC and CNN employing former intelligence officers and making bold claims that Russia is using "sonic waves" to attack US embassies when infact it was crickets making noise.

Basically many of you are so thirsty to take a shot at Trump that you've empowered the mass media to feed you liquid crack cocaine gotcha headlines about Trump and you dont even care if they are factual - just so long as you get your fix for 24 hours.

Here I'll cook you guys up a new fix.

BOOM THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN ON TRUMP

Trump possibly flew to Russia more than 1 time in the 1990's says source (... source that worked for Hillary Clinton and was a former CIA officer...)


I don't need the media to tell me Trump isn't fit for office, all you have to do is listen to him talk and look at his actions. He has zero credibility and anyone that laps his Kool aid is an idiot and not very btight, of course imo.

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Rider59 » Jan 23rd, 2019, 8:19 am

floppi wrote:[q
I don't need the media to tell me Trump isn't fit for office, all you have to do is listen to him talk and look at his actions. He has zero credibility and anyone that laps his Kool aid is an idiot and not very btight, of course imo.


Oh really. Where are you getting your information then? You do realize that all media is biased today, right? The main steam media uses creative editing on almost every story. Open your eyes.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Ka-El » Jan 23rd, 2019, 8:40 am

floppi wrote: I don't need the media to tell me Trump isn't fit for office, all you have to do is listen to him talk and look at his actions. He has zero credibility and anyone that laps his Kool aid is an idiot and not very btight, of course imo.

It takes a very special kind of stupid to still be making excuses for or supporting this imbecilic *bleep*. :smt045
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Ka-El » Jan 23rd, 2019, 10:12 am

Why Trump’s border wall would backfire on him

The problem for Trump is that while his fixation on the wall might play well to his supporters, actually building it would be a political disaster for him. His insistence provides red meat for his anti-immigrant base who believe that the border with Mexico is porous, allowing millions of undocumented workers as well as criminals, drugs and terrorists to wantonly flood into the United States. By demanding the wall, Trump is sending a message to his voters, that he understands their concerns, and as a master builder is willing to rock the Washington boat to get something done.

However, if the wall were ever to begin to get built it would create problems beyond pushing away the swing voters he needs to be competitive when he runs for re-election in 2020.

First, most experts on immigration agree that the wall will not solve any of the problems cited by Trump. The number of undocumented workers has been declining in recent years; most narcotics are brought into the United States either at existing checkpoints or through other ports of entry; very few terrorists have come across the border illegally since the September 11 attacks, and, contrary to Trump’s assertions, people making illegal crossings are not disproportionally criminal elements. Building a wall that would in large part span a hot and inhospitable desert would address none of the problems that anti-immigration activists would like to see solved.

Second, the wall will be extremely expensive. Trump is currently asking for about $5 billion to begin construction on the wall, but if the wall were ever to be completed the final price would likely be much higher. Five, 10 or even $20 billion for a government expenditure that helped address a real problem, like climate change, the opioid crisis or health care would be, even from a political perspective, a much wiser use of resources for the administration than a wall that eventually will likely be a symbol of Trump’s petulance.

A third point is that the wall will probably never be completed. If Trump is not re-elected, stopping construction on the wall will be one of the very first actions taken by any Democratic president. Even if Trump wins a second term, something that looks less likely with each passing month, Democrats will have future opportunities to cut the funding because public support for the wall has never been strong. This leads to the real possibility that a few miles of uncompleted, rusting half-built wall somewhere on the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona or Texas will be the lasting physical monument to the Trump presidency.

The fourth problem is the question of who will build the wall. Various defense contractors will bid for it. The firms that will be interested in this unusual, but extremely lucrative project will have to do whatever they can to keep bidding costs low. Whoever gets the project will then be faced with the challenge of hiring not only skilled and well-compensated workers for much of it, but finding lower-paid and less-skilled workers for other parts of the construction. Anybody who has studied the data or spent time on building sites in the United States over the last few decades knows that the construction industry relies heavily on undocumented immigrant workers – many from Mexico. The temptation to rely on that labor pool will be very strong in the borderlands where the wall is being constructed. If that does occur, the political fallout is not likely to drive up the president’s poll numbers.

The Democrats have provided little indication that they will give Trump his wall, but they could score a valuable strategic win if they wrestle generous policy concessions from him in exchange for a compromise. After Trump’s recent proposal, Democrats insisted that they would only negotiate on border security once he reopens the government. Getting, for example, a real path to citizenship for Dreamers – not the temporary protections he offered – in exchange for a wall that seems impossible to build and will ultimately be an embarrassment for Trump, would not be a bad outcome for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Ironically, congressional Democrats’ unwillingness to give in to the president may be what spares him this humiliation.

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Vacancyrate » Jan 23rd, 2019, 10:32 am

floppi wrote:I don't need the media to tell me Trump isn't fit for office


Incoming BOOM headline in 3...2...1...
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby floppi » Jan 23rd, 2019, 11:05 am

[youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_r6kayx0aE [/youtube]

You want more of his blathering? Plenty more where that came from, where you can hear him speak his lies....all 8000 of them [icon_lol2.gif]
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby monilynno » Jan 24th, 2019, 8:38 am

215 democrats all voted against GOP resolution to pay the 800,000 government workers who are not getting paid. At least there's 10 democrats who actually care about those government workers. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... e-shutdown
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Ranger66 » Jan 24th, 2019, 10:44 am

"10 democrats who actually care about those government workers"

As long as Trump does not care it does not matter.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby monilynno » Jan 24th, 2019, 11:15 am

Ranger66 wrote:"10 democrats who actually care about those government workers"

As long as Trump does not care it does not matter.


? That's contorted liberal logic at it's finest. Republicans try to get people paid and that includes Trump but democrats kill the bill. Please break free of your TDS.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby floppi » Jan 24th, 2019, 11:59 am

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby RupertBear » Jan 24th, 2019, 12:19 pm

monilynno wrote:215 democrats all voted against GOP resolution to pay the 800,000 government workers who are not getting paid. At least there's 10 democrats who actually care about those government workers. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... e-shutdown


The way I read the story was that the original vote on the floor (by the Democrats) was to fully fund the government, ie: reopen the government and get everyone back to work and back to being paid.
Just before that vote took place the Republicans high-jacked it and proposed another vote, to keep government shut down, but to pay the workers during the shutdown.
Of course the majority of Democrats are going to vote against this. It allows Trump to keep his shutdown going, in the fading hopes he can get his vanity fence.
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