NRA falling apart

Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Brass Monkey » Dec 3rd, 2018, 2:56 pm

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A ridiculous assertion. In fact, more propaganda to try and undermine this human rights organization. The NRA consists of good and decent people . They have nothing to do with people who kill others. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people are killed and maimed each year in the USA with automobile use and abuse and not a peep. Motor vehicles are used maliciously all the time to commit homicide, suicide, kidnappings, sexual assaults, mowing down pedestrians, transporting illicit goods and stolen goods, etc. The fuel they use fuels warfare and strife and might even being destroying earths atmosphere. Public transportation, bicycles and walking are available as an alternative. But the smug condescending narcissistic anti-NRA people feel so morally superior. Such hypocrites.


The NRA is not a human rights organization as firearm ownership is not a human right. There are many NRA members and leaders who are fantastic people but that does not take away from the NRAs intent and that is not to arm the citizens against government tyranny but to protect gun sales and stock prices. Motor vehicles are a necessity in our way of life and serve a utility purpose, guns do not. The automobile industry and the government has recognized the dangers and effects of vehicles and that is why since the 1940s they have mandated emissions controls and safety features such as seatbelts, airbags and catalytic converters.

As a proud gun owner I cannot wait for the day the NRA turns to dust, they fear monger and bribe politicians to whisk away sensible gun control. The only time the NRA has ever moved in favour of a gun control bill is when they supported the Mulford Act of 1968, a gun control legislation prohibiting the public carry of loaded firearms in California which was in response to the Black Panthers who were patrolling their streets under a program called "Cop Watching". If they really cared about resisting government tyranny they wouldn't have moved in favour of disarming African Americans who were fighting against an abusive and nefarious police aka tyrannical government.

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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 3rd, 2018, 3:37 pm

Brass Monkey wrote:
The NRA is not a human rights organization as firearm ownership is not a human right. .


why not? Who decides these things?
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Brass Monkey » Dec 3rd, 2018, 3:49 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
The NRA is not a human rights organization as firearm ownership is not a human right. .


why not? Who decides these things?


Humanitarians I guess, refer to the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Certainly not the US constitution or NRA board members.

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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 3rd, 2018, 4:03 pm

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Humanitarians I guess, refer to the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Certainly not the US constitution or NRA board members.



Oh I see. Unelected people with global agendas decide what is a human right and what isn't. That makes me feel so much better.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby monilynno » Dec 3rd, 2018, 4:21 pm

UN is humanitarian? now there's a laugh, Saudi Arabia heads the human rights council.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Brass Monkey » Dec 3rd, 2018, 4:53 pm

monilynno wrote:UN is humanitarian? now there's a laugh, Saudi Arabia heads the human rights council.


The UN is indeed humanitarian, the head of the council is not Saudi but El Salvadorian. There are many impoverished nations on the council that foster human rights abuses..the council is meant to guide and move member countries towards rectifying these abuses.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Brass Monkey » Dec 3rd, 2018, 4:54 pm

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Oh I see. Unelected people with global agendas decide what is a human right and what isn't. That makes me feel so much better.


If you can find any human rights within the UN Declaration of Human Rights that you do not agree with then you might need to make some moral adjustments.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Glacier » Dec 3rd, 2018, 5:19 pm

The best way to boost something is to threaten to ban it. Trump is not going to ban guns, so the NRA has no purpose. If a gun grabber is in charge, membership will rocket up. It's how it works with everything else. Religious people and women have tried to ban books, movies, and such, and all that did was improve sales. The hippie generation was successful in getting rid of restrictions on sex, and people are now having less sex as a result. Ferri tried to ban people on Castanet, and now there are even more members than ever. The list goes on.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby monilynno » Dec 3rd, 2018, 5:27 pm

"The UN is indeed humanitarian, the head of the council is not Saudi but El Salvadorian. There are many impoverished nations on the council that foster human rights abuses..the council is meant to guide and move member countries towards rectifying these abuses".

Sorry they were the head but still have a seat.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 3rd, 2018, 6:30 pm

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If you can find any human rights within the UN Declaration of Human Rights that you do not agree with then you might need to make some moral adjustments.


Why does an unelected body just get to arbitrarily determine what is a human right and what isn't? Until they actually have to be voted in as representatives in a democratic system, what these people have to say is really irrelevant.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Omnitheo » Feb 25th, 2019, 6:54 pm

The shady AF NRA continues to fuel right wing extremism. This time posting a headline with “Target Practice” over Nancy Pelosi, and survivors of gun violence.

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The NRA is facing widespread condemnation after its latest magazine issue hit mailboxes, with a feature article titled “Target Practice” next to a large glossy color photo of Nancy Pelosi with House Democrats standing behind her. As if that weren’t bad enough, the photo was taken when Speaker Pelosi and her Democratic co-sponsors were announcing the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019. Standing behind Pelosi in the photo is Rep. Lucy McBath, whose 17-year-old son, Jordan, was gunned down at a Jacksonville gas station when 45-year-old Michael David Dunn pulled up next to the car Jordan was in with his friends and fired on the teens because he felt their music was too loud; and former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot in the head in 2011 during an assassination attempt by Jared Lee Loughner, whose murder spree that day killed six and wounded 18 others.

The article was written by Chris Cox, the chief lobbyist of the NRA. He described Nancy Pelosi as the "arch anti-gunner." See if you can pick up on the problem with how he describes other participants at the press conference.

Giffords was in attendance as Pelosi and Thompson introduced H.R. 8, along with other fixtures of the anti-gun cause, including Josh Horowitz, David Hogg, Lucy McBath and Shannon Watts.


Two of those “anti-gun” fixtures had their lives turned upside down by gun violence.

Jennifer Bendery of the Huffington Post was the first to share the image on Twitter, and the reaction was swift. Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) said it seemed clear the NRA "knew what they were doing" with this outrageous pairing. Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter, Jamie, was murdered at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, called it an “incitement of violence.”
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Omnitheo » Feb 25th, 2019, 6:57 pm

monilynno wrote:Attachment


AAA doesn’t pay politicians to ease drunk driving laws, or put out promotizonal material demonizing MADD or politicians calling for stricter drunk driving legislation.

Think critically before you post such nonesense memes.
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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby monilynno » Mar 1st, 2019, 4:54 pm

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monilynno wrote:Attachment


AAA doesn’t pay politicians to ease drunk driving laws, or put out promotizonal material demonizing MADD or politicians calling for stricter drunk driving legislation.

Think critically before you post such nonesense memes.


The NRA is limited in it's contributions to politicians under federal election laws just like everyone else, your fallacy is unfounded and without proof or merit. The NRA exists to maintain and defend the second amendment to the US constitution as the founders wrote it, the NRA also promotes the safe use of firearms through education, helps empower women to join the shooting sports and promotes women to use firearms for self defense, the NRA is a line of defense against anti gun activist organizations defending the rights of over 100 million American gun owners. The only non sense on this board is in great part spouted by you.

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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby averagejoe » Mar 1st, 2019, 5:23 pm

monilynno wrote:The NRA is limited in it's contributions to politicians under federal election laws just like everyone else, your fallacy is unfounded and without proof or merit. The NRA exists to maintain and defend the second amendment to the US constitution as the founders wrote it, the NRA also promotes the safe use of firearms through education, helps empower women to join the shooting sports and promotes women to use firearms for self defense, the NRA is a line of defense against anti gun activist organizations defending the rights of over 100 million American gun owners. The only non sense on this board is in great part spouted by you.


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Re: NRA falling apart

Postby Ka-El » Mar 1st, 2019, 5:44 pm

Omnitheo wrote:
monilynno wrote:Attachment


AAA doesn’t pay politicians to ease drunk driving laws, or put out promotizonal material demonizing MADD or politicians calling for stricter drunk driving legislation.

Think critically before you post such nonesense memes.

Well said!!!
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