Yikes! A major positioning of Russia in the Americas

Re: Yikes! A major positioning of Russia in the Americas

Postby Vacancyrate » Jan 15th, 2019, 8:51 pm

GordonH wrote:Since only 1 country has ever used a nuclear device on human beings, twice actually. The thing is was it actually necessary since the country these devices was used on, was on verge of surrender due to pounding of conventional weapons.


It is well documented that the US used nuclear weapons in WWII to test them on live targets, not to win the war. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were both purposely left off targets lists leading up to the bombing to ensure the cities were "untouched" so the army could accurately measure damages and count the dead.

Additionally nuclear weapons are DEFENSIVE WEAPONS. They are not meant as active threats - they are meant as assurance that you will not be threatened when you have them.

When the USA put anti-missilies in NATO countries close to Russia, that limited Russia's ability to deter attacks from aggressors. For the last 80 years the USA couldn't nuke Russia or Russian allies because Russia would nuke them right back. That changed when the US broke nuclear treaties and put anti missilies in NATO countries. Theoretically the USA could attack Russia or try to take over the world, and if Russia tried to defend itself the USA would just shoot down their missiles.

Quite literally the USA is trying to take over the world right now, by force.

What was Russia going to do? Sit back and let the USA take over the world by breaking nuclear treaties and letting them threaten the lives of 10's of millions of Russians?

Putin did what anyone in charge of protecting the lives of his countryman would do - he developed a new generation of nuclear weapons that can't be shot down.

Now things are balanced again. The USA can attack Russia if they want to but now Russia can defend itself from such attacks.

The big joke is that the USA said that those ant-missilies were not to use against Russia, but to use against "The Iranian threat" - but there is no Iranian threat! They don't have nuclear weapons or ICBM's and Iran is one of the only countries on the planet (aside from Russia) that is DEFENSIVE ONLY. Iran and North Korea only seek nuclear weapons in order to not end up like Iraq, Syria and Libya - a defensive weapon. The USA lied to Russia and said "don't worry those anti-missiles are there to shoot down Iranian missiles, not your missiles!" So Russia developed the new doomsday weapons and said "Don't worry it's just in case SOMEONE ELSE attacks us, it's not for use against the USA" Very crafty.

He warned the USA back in 2015 not to put anti missiles against his border. Too bad the USA wants to rule the world by force.

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Re: Yikes! A major positioning of Russia in the Americas

Postby JagXKR » Jan 15th, 2019, 9:09 pm

GordonH wrote:
The thing is was it actually necessary since the country these devices was used on, was on verge of surrender due to pounding of conventional weapons.


Absolute lie. Shame on you.
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Re: Yikes! A major positioning of Russia in the Americas

Postby Vacancyrate » Jan 15th, 2019, 9:21 pm

JagXKR wrote:Absolute lie. Shame on you.


Correct.

The common lie told is that the USA "had to" nuke Japan otherwise lots of their troops would have got killed invading Japan.

...so instead they nuked 2 cities filled with women and children...

...so their troops wouldn't get shot at...

The USA also could have kidnapped the Emperor and tortured him live on the radio. Maybe torture the emperors children too. I suppose that would have been a more noble thing to do instead of killing a few hundred thousand regular people and threading to do it again unless they surrendered to the USA.

Actually, that's the exact definition of terrorism.

"We'll keep on killing civilians unless you ______"

Of course Russia is worried about the USA attacking them. They attack everyone and they are the only country in the world to use nukes against people - and they killed CIVILIANS when they did it.
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Re: Yikes! A major positioning of Russia in the Americas

Postby GordonH » Jan 15th, 2019, 9:34 pm

GordonH wrote:The thing is was it actually necessary since the country these devices was used on, was on verge of surrender due to pounding of conventional weapons.

JagXKR wrote:Absolute lie. Shame on you.


US push the Japanese forces back to their island nation from east & Russia broke there non aggression pack with Japan & pushed Japan forces back from the west (both countries pounded the island nation). Japanese navy purposely ran aground there largest battleship as last line of defense on key area of Japan.

You may want to re-look at actually history.

Added later: US dropped those 2 bombs to get actual hands on data in a war scenario.
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