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Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 16th, 2019, 8:49 am
by ferri
I feel so sorry for the people that have been suffering under their "leadership". Things are only getting worse now.

Zimbabwe fuel protests: Opposition activist Pastor Mawarire arrested

Police in Zimbabwe have arrested a prominent activist, Pastor Evan Mawarire, as protests against soaring fuel prices enter their third day.

Mr Mawarire was taken from his home and charged with inciting violence.

Offices and businesses remained closed on Wednesday and the streets of the capital, Harare, were largely deserted.


More here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-4 ... VD_5P988_o


Civilians beaten and abducted in major Zimbabwe crackdown

Police and military have launched a massive crackdown in Zimbabwe after what appears to be have been a widespread breakdown of public order linked to food and fuel shortages in the impoverished country.

Access to the internet and social media was shut off for most of Wednesday, and armed soldiers were patrolling the streets of major cities as unidentified men were reported to be sweeping through poor neighbourhoods of Harare, the capital, and beating people “at random”.


More here:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... khRgkk9HNc


Reports of Zimbabwe blocking social media, WhatsApp as protests rage

The country’s government has been accused of blocking access to the internet amid violent protests.
Zimbabweans on social media are complaining that the Zimbabwean government is blocking social media and WhatsApp as violent protests over a massive fuel hike continue to grip the country.

One user complained on Twitter of their WhatsApp being blocked. Twitter still seemed accessible at the time.

Since then, another user alleges Twitter was blocked as well, saying she was only able to send the tweet out as she used a virtual private network (VPN).

Another user tweeted information on how to set up and use a VPN to bypass the alleged blocking of social media and private messaging apps.


More here:
https://citizen.co.za/news/news-africa/ ... s.facebook

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 16th, 2019, 9:04 am
by The Green Barbarian
South Africa only needs to look at Zimbabwe as their future, if they allow the same corruption to continue to fester and spread.

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 16th, 2019, 2:29 pm
by ferri
What a mess. i was hoping once Mugabe was out of there that things would get better. I feel sorry for people that are trying to live there.
On a side note, a friend of mine has family still in Zimbabwe, (she is in South Africa) she told me a few years ago about her brother and his family coming to visit her from Zim. They had to get permission from the government to go. She said the first morning at the breakfast table the 2 little kids just sat there staring at the 3 different jams for toast on the table. In Zimbabwe you have a choice of one, whatever is available. They couldn't decide which one to pick.

Zimbabwe Police Arrest More Than 600 in Fuel Price Protest Crackdown

(HARARE, Zimbabwe) — Zimbabwe police armed with AK-47 rifles detained a prominent activist and pastor on Wednesday, part of more than 600 arrests, in a harsh crackdown over protests against dramatic fuel price hikes in the economically shattered country. A doctors’ group said it had treated more than 60 gunshot wounds in a “human rights crisis.”


More here:
http://time.com/5505039/zimbabwe-police ... s-arrests/

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 16th, 2019, 7:03 pm
by The Green Barbarian
ferri wrote:What a mess. i was hoping once Mugabe was out of there that things would get better. I feel sorry for people that are trying to live there.
On a side note, a friend of mine has family still in Zimbabwe, (she is in South Africa) she told me a few years ago about her brother and his family coming to visit her from Zim. They had to get permission from the government to go. She said the first morning at the breakfast table the 2 little kids just sat there staring at the 3 different jams for toast on the table. In Zimbabwe you have a choice of one, whatever is available. They couldn't decide which one to pick.
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Friends of mine in Kelowna fled Zimbabwe in the 1970s. They left with the clothes on their backs. The mantra at the time was "one man, one vote". They said that it was going to be "one man, one vote, one time", and pretty much, they were dead right. South Africa really isn't any better. The ANC is charge now, and is never going to be thrown out.

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 17th, 2019, 8:23 am
by Omnitheo
Zimbabwe did not exist in the 70’s

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 17th, 2019, 8:54 am
by The Green Barbarian
Omnitheo wrote:Zimbabwe did not exist in the 70’s


LOL - yes they are aware of that. In fact they still call their homeland "Rhodesia". A time when people still had food in their bellies.

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 17th, 2019, 10:09 am
by ferri
So many people were hoping things would change for the better.

Zimbabwe pastor says government acts like Mugabe

The Zimbabwe pastor and activist facing a charge of subversion has arrived at court and says the country's new government is behaving like that of former longtime leader Robert Mugabe.

Evan Mawarire faces 20 years in prison if convicted. He is among more than 600 people arrested this week amid protests against the government's dramatic fuel price increase. Gasoline in the economically shattered country is now the most expensive in the world.


More here:
https://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/ ... e-20190117

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 17th, 2019, 11:41 am
by averagejoe
ferri wrote:What a mess. i was hoping once Mugabe was out of there that things would get better. I feel sorry for people that are trying to live there.
On a side note, a friend of mine has family still in Zimbabwe, (she is in South Africa) she told me a few years ago about her brother and his family coming to visit her from Zim. They had to get permission from the government to go. She said the first morning at the breakfast table the 2 little kids just sat there staring at the 3 different jams for toast on the table. In Zimbabwe you have a choice of one, whatever is available. They couldn't decide which one to pick.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:Friends of mine in Kelowna fled Zimbabwe in the 1970s. They left with the clothes on their backs. The mantra at the time was "one man, one vote". They said that it was going to be "one man, one vote, one time", and pretty much, they were dead right. South Africa really isn't any better. The ANC is charge now, and is never going to be thrown out.


Rhodesia was once known as the bread basket of Africa.....then the communists took over.

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 17th, 2019, 12:14 pm
by averagejoe
Beginning of the end.....Moscow and China backed communist liberation organizations.

Part of the Socialist/communist world revolution.....

and another nation turned into a Venezuela....

Rhodesian Bush War

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The Rhodesian Bush War—also called the Second Chimurenga and the Zimbabwe War of Liberation—was a civil conflict from July 1964 to December 1979[n 1] in the unrecognised country of Rhodesia (later Zimbabwe-Rhodesia).[n 2][26] The conflict pitted three forces against one another: the Rhodesian government, led by Ian Smith (later the Zimbabwe-Rhodesian government of Bishop Abel Muzorewa); the Zimbabwe African National Liberation Army, the military wing of Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe African National Union; and the Zimbabwe People's Revolutionary Army of Joshua Nkomo's Zimbabwe African People's Union.

Cold War politics

Cold War politics played into the conflict. The Soviet Union supported ZIPRA and China supported ZANLA. Each group fought a separate war against the Rhodesian security forces, and the two groups sometimes fought against each other as well.[34] In June 1979, the governments of Cuba and Mozambique offered direct military help to the Patriotic Front, but Mugabe and Nkomo declined.[35] Other foreign contributions included from North Korea military officials who taught Zimbabwean militants to use explosives and arms in a camp near Pyongyang.[36] By April 1979, 12,000 ZANLA guerrillas were training in Tanzania, Ethiopia, and Libya while 9,500 of its 13,500 extant cadres operated in Rhodesia.[12] On the other side of the conflict, South Africa clandestinely gave material and military support to the Rhodesian government.[30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War

Re: Zimbabwe

Posted: Jan 18th, 2019, 1:42 pm
by ferri
I was just reading posts on facebook, this is one from Zim:

The 48km peg to Bindura at Cheza, the bridge has been distroyed

Nyanga road from Rusape barricaded with big stones and wood logs before Londonstore, Christmas pass Mutare closed with big stones motorists asked to go back,
Domboshava 1 soldier killed by angry mob, a military 4 ton truck with armed soldiers fled Hatcliffe shopping center as civilians notified carrying 3 machine guns
Beitbridge road closed at Ngundu Holt
Gweru protest hits up as civilians attacking security forces
Kadoma town is a no go area for security forces as angry mobs has declared civil war!!!
Army Helicopters in Bulawayo
Chirundu Border closed Zambia side
Shootings at plumtree Border
3 police cars burnt in Marondera
Hundreds injured in Harare, teargas and live ammunition being used and fires burning everywhere
People have been set on fire
Shops are being looted
No electricity in Harare
Doctors can't help anyone as nobody can get to work at hospitals because roads are barracaded everywhere and if they can get there, they are dealing with gunshot wounds, stabbings and shattered limbs - they still don't have any gloves or sanitary items to work with on these injured people and there are no painkiller drugs to be found as chemists want US dollars first as payment - there is NO money
Government has SHUT ALL SOCIAL MEDIA off so we are being held hostage in our own country - pleeeease someone help us!!!


Edited to add link to article:
Zimbabwe blocks Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter amid crackdown
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-46917259