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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... walk-outs/
Thoughts on this.
Sorry it is a Breitbart article. Im sure someone will say thats bad. No one else really covers this issue.
Thoughts on this.
Sorry it is a Breitbart article. Im sure someone will say thats bad. No one else really covers this issue.
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Thoughts? A union bullying people into being Marxist morons? What else is new?
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This is alarming as it means communists are openly taking over education. We all know they had been. However it doesnt get any more symbolic than red for ed. .
Scary times
Scary times
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Really? Labelling every Arizona teacher a communist?
" Its stated goals–higher teacher pay and better education conditions–are overshadowed by a more malevolent political agenda: a leftist Democrat uprising designed to flip purple or red states to blue, using the might of a significant part of the education system as its lever.”
Whereas pressuring people to leave their classrooms to march is wrong, the goal, from those who do is what American teachers need in America today.
And Brietbart calling changing State voting rights, the right to change from Republican to Democrat and it's process a "malevolent political agenda" is alarming in itself.
No Brietbart, that is democracy in itself. The right to change whom they support. It is not "malevolent" and it is not an evil. That this newspaper is calling democracy and its process these things is the second real story.
What are other news outlets calling it? Voting rights. We also know that all the pressure in the World won't change votes, would you succumb to pressure in the voting booth? Most here will not.
" Its stated goals–higher teacher pay and better education conditions–are overshadowed by a more malevolent political agenda: a leftist Democrat uprising designed to flip purple or red states to blue, using the might of a significant part of the education system as its lever.”
Whereas pressuring people to leave their classrooms to march is wrong, the goal, from those who do is what American teachers need in America today.
And Brietbart calling changing State voting rights, the right to change from Republican to Democrat and it's process a "malevolent political agenda" is alarming in itself.
No Brietbart, that is democracy in itself. The right to change whom they support. It is not "malevolent" and it is not an evil. That this newspaper is calling democracy and its process these things is the second real story.
What are other news outlets calling it? Voting rights. We also know that all the pressure in the World won't change votes, would you succumb to pressure in the voting booth? Most here will not.
As WW3 develops, no one is going to be dissing the "preppers." What have you done?
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Country plough boy wrote:https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/23/watch-az-teachers-union-head-pressures-teachers-to-intimidate-colleagues-to-join-redfored-walk-outs/
Thoughts on this.
Sorry it is a Breitbart article. Im sure someone will say thats bad. No one else really covers this issue.
Meh, CNN is covering it. And not covering the issue of democratic process as "maleovent".
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/us/arizo ... index.html
When you watch the CNN article and the video, it becomes obvious that the public schools are disgustingly underfunded, that hundreds of twitter posts about the state of American schools can't be wrong. That teachers spend their own money on classroom materials is not new nor is it special the the USA. Canadian teachers also spend money of their own, but they also HAVE money to spend and don't work four jobs to stay afloat. Come on, quit pretending that undending tax cuts don't affect the social fabric of where it counts the most, education.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:Thoughts? A union bullying people into being Marxist *bleep*? What else is new?
Oh come on, is peaceful protest and shedding light on a social wrong necessarilty "Marxist"?
I realize that's not what you said and came back to correct my mistake. What I should have said was, "those teachers who didn't want to leave the classroom and protest" have it all wrong if they think that demonstrating for a cause is "Marxist." Pressuring people is wrong, of course. I get that. But protesting is not "marxist" either. Without shedding light on the very real issues, how else is change going to happen for American schools and kids?
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https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/th ... d-10403354
Welp, I guessed Phoenix is still in Arizona so I thought I'd take a look at what they said.
Yup, a direct coorelation towards tax cuts in 2006 to tattered schools and materials in 2019. This is what happens when people say "my tax dollars" are wasted on education when I don't even have kids, or my kids are grown up now, why be so taxed?
"As the head of the Seidman Institute, Hoffman’s team performs an annual revenue forecast for the governor’s Office of Strategic Planning and Budgeting. Although he emphasized that he’s not privy to the machinations of Ducey’s staff, Hoffman said that #RedForEd produced a clear result.
“The effort on the part of the education movement resonated with both the governor and with the Legislature, and that brought us, I think, to where we are today,” Hoffman said on the day the strike ended. “We’ll just have to see whether or not this momentum continues.”
Hoffman favors a return to the higher tax rates that preceded Arizona’s 2006 tax cuts to fund educational investments.
When viewed through the lens of tax cuts and stalled funding, combined with the West Virginia teachers who lit a tinderbox, the Arizona strike may have been inevitable. For what it’s worth, a favorite song in the repertoire of the marching band that played day after day at the Capitol was Twisted Sister's “We’re Not Gonna Take It.”
Welp, I guessed Phoenix is still in Arizona so I thought I'd take a look at what they said.
Yup, a direct coorelation towards tax cuts in 2006 to tattered schools and materials in 2019. This is what happens when people say "my tax dollars" are wasted on education when I don't even have kids, or my kids are grown up now, why be so taxed?
"As the head of the Seidman Institute, Hoffman’s team performs an annual revenue forecast for the governor’s Office of Strategic Planning and Budgeting. Although he emphasized that he’s not privy to the machinations of Ducey’s staff, Hoffman said that #RedForEd produced a clear result.
“The effort on the part of the education movement resonated with both the governor and with the Legislature, and that brought us, I think, to where we are today,” Hoffman said on the day the strike ended. “We’ll just have to see whether or not this momentum continues.”
Hoffman favors a return to the higher tax rates that preceded Arizona’s 2006 tax cuts to fund educational investments.
When viewed through the lens of tax cuts and stalled funding, combined with the West Virginia teachers who lit a tinderbox, the Arizona strike may have been inevitable. For what it’s worth, a favorite song in the repertoire of the marching band that played day after day at the Capitol was Twisted Sister's “We’re Not Gonna Take It.”
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Queen K wrote:Really? Labelling every Arizona teacher a communist?
" Its stated goals–higher teacher pay and better education conditions–are overshadowed by a more malevolent political agenda: a leftist Democrat uprising designed to flip purple or red states to blue, using the might of a significant part of the education system as its lever.”
Whereas pressuring people to leave their classrooms to march is wrong, the goal, from those who do is what American teachers need in America today.
And Brietbart calling changing State voting rights, the right to change from Republican to Democrat and it's process a "malevolent political agenda" is alarming in itself.
No Brietbart, that is democracy in itself. The right to change whom they support. It is not "malevolent" and it is not an evil. That this newspaper is calling democracy and its process these things is the second real story.
What are other news outlets calling it? Voting rights. We also know that all the pressure in the World won't change votes, would you succumb to pressure in the voting booth? Most here will not.
Openly trying to flip a good state to Democrat. By brainwashing kids. U call that democratic
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Yup. And most will defend the right to do so. Those who believe in democracy anyways.
We see this all the time in Canada. Didn't PEI and Alberta just have elections? Did the process not go one way or another for any political party?
And by labeling Republican "good" and Democrat "bad" you are making assumptions on behalf of the American public, are you not? Campaigning to flip States is as old as the party system itself. Are you advocating for one Party rule across America?
We see this all the time in Canada. Didn't PEI and Alberta just have elections? Did the process not go one way or another for any political party?
And by labeling Republican "good" and Democrat "bad" you are making assumptions on behalf of the American public, are you not? Campaigning to flip States is as old as the party system itself. Are you advocating for one Party rule across America?
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Queen K wrote:
Hoffman favors a return to the higher tax rates that preceded Arizona’s 2006 tax cuts to fund educational investments.
Of course he does. Just like when the slime-balls that run the BCTF in BC call for "higher corporate tax rates" to fund education. It's disgusting. These idiots aren't qualified to call for any tax hikes on anyone. They aren't tax experts. They don't understand economics or taxation policy. Why should taxes have to go "up"? Why not call for cuts to spending in other areas, and divert those funds to education, instead of increasing the burden on taxpayers and the economy? Such one-track minds. Such stupid backward thinking.
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Did teachers in Alberta interfere on behalf of good people. No they were stool pigeons for the NDP. Your argument doesnt work
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We aren't "arguing" we're discussing.
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https://globalnews.ca/news/5115970/fox- ... countries/
Fox News apologizes for the "Three Mexicos" headline they used. Seriously, a complete news fiasco.
Then there was the Fox News affiliate disaster placing Banff, Alberta in and around Ottawa. Seriously, again?
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/04/2 ... _23715459/
Coincidence? Or a sign of the times?
I would make a comment on how if Fox News employed more Democrats this sort of embarrassing gaffe wouldn't happen, but that wouldn't be right.
Fox News apologizes for the "Three Mexicos" headline they used. Seriously, a complete news fiasco.
Then there was the Fox News affiliate disaster placing Banff, Alberta in and around Ottawa. Seriously, again?
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/04/2 ... _23715459/
Coincidence? Or a sign of the times?
I would make a comment on how if Fox News employed more Democrats this sort of embarrassing gaffe wouldn't happen, but that wouldn't be right.
As WW3 develops, no one is going to be dissing the "preppers." What have you done?
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Country plough boy wrote:Did teachers in Alberta interfere on behalf of good people. No they were stool pigeons for the NDP. Your argument doesnt work
According to coverage of what the Alberta Teacher's Union planned for it's political spending:
Unlike some third-party advertisers, the association won’t be endorsing any candidate or party, he said. The campaigns are meant to prod voters to ask candidates about education issues important to teachers and students, he said.
Teaching should be one of the highest priorities since it directly feeds into good government ... but it seems that conservatives and elitists have found that keeping the masses less educated helps keep them in power ...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/24/donald-trump-nevada-poorly-educated/80860078/
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Teachers can teach without invoking communist imagry. Teachers can teach without constant strikes and walkouts. If they do not want to teach for the pay offered they are free to move.
We have a voting age . For good reason.
This misguided attempt to change the future by brainwashing youth is super evil. Essentially these kids are being told to vote against the interests of their families and their own future . Against their own personal rights and freedoms. And mostly for huge tax increases and large government.
We have a voting age . For good reason.
This misguided attempt to change the future by brainwashing youth is super evil. Essentially these kids are being told to vote against the interests of their families and their own future . Against their own personal rights and freedoms. And mostly for huge tax increases and large government.