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While some will try and blame Obama for the divisiveness and hate that has been promoted and facilitated by the Trump government, the bottom line is that the festering divide in America is reaching a crisis point and the current administration is doing nothing to address that. We are fortunate that we will be witnessing what transpires from across the safety of our border, but the American people are our neighbors and friends and none of us want to see what could very well be coming.

White Supremacy Was Her World. And Then She Left

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“I’ve been trying to decide which is the lesser of two evils, blacks or Mexicans,” she wrote in a post on Stormfront, the hate movement’s oldest online forum, in 2008. She went on to describe racist stereotypes, tarring Black people as criminals and saying Mexicans have too many kids.

Her language was cruel but familiar, drawing from America’s communal well of white supremacy. Many white Americans are quick to distinguish between everyday prejudice and radical bigotry, but it’s a false distinction. White nationalists make explicit ideas that are already coded or veiled in the wider white imagination. Hate is what many people would see if they looked in a fun-house mirror: a distorted but still recognizable reflection.

It is important to acknowledge this ugly truth if we hope to understand events now unfolding across the country.

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There are nearly 1,000 hate groups in America, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the distribution of white-supremacist propaganda is ever widening. We know little about how to combat hate effectively; the federal government has cut funding for programs to counter right-wing extremism and blocked the dissemination of data on the subject. Only last year did the Department of Homeland Security acknowledge that white supremacy is a national security threat.

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I don't understand what your post is trying to say. You take a snippet from 08 which is so outdated and in my opinion completely irrelevant. You mentioned there were a thousand hate groups. Could you name 10 of them instead of just reposting what somebody else says as fact. I find that incredibly hard to believe that there are a thousand known hate groups.
And in my opinion there is less racism today than there was in 08. Anybody who thinks differently should really really open your eyes to what other people are saying in the black community about their own people. Systemic racism is a myth. And anybody who says it isn't I would appreciate if they could point out exactly 1 entity where systemic racism is proven. Don't just say it's there because it has to be there. Point the finger at exactly one institution where there is systemic racism that is unavailable. Not your opinion I want fact.
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There is no mystery here. This is how humans "evolve". It has always been this way which is why it is still such a hot topic.

People have a need to feel superior, especially stupid people because, while they may not know they are stupid, they know that if they look long and hard enough, they will find kindred spirits with whom they can feed off in order to elevate themselves and hate groups are a wonderful source of camaraderie.

I am 100% serious when I say that the IQ of the average hate monger is low but the less intelligent people are, the more opinionated they tend to be and the more they are likely to latch on to ideas that are shared by others who will accept them into the ranks and they will run with it.

These are the people who will take hear say and speculation and share with the world without a thought or care as to whether there is any truth in it or not.

I guess that doesn't bode well for the majority of the media then, does it?

This is why, in large part, racism is so rampant.

White Supremacist's actually believe that black people, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and others are inferior in all ways. To their core.

You cannot hope to shake these convictions because, like screaming inside a hurricane, no one hears.

Is there something on the horizon? Gawd I hope not. Based on the "protests" after George Floyds death, if the BLM movement gains traction, which it appears to be doing, there will be wide scale rioting everywhere and nothing good will come of it.

The message will get lost in the violence and the need for, I don't know, a sudden and instantaneous paradigm shift where everybody is recognized as equal and racism doesn't exist?

The attitudes of the bigots is what has to change and the only way to do that, in my opinion, is to educate the children and teach it out of them.

400 years of believing that Black people were created to be used by white people. That is a lot of generations, lots of time to fan the flames.

It has to end.
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Excellent piece mexi cali. Well done.
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Thanks for that.
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common_sense_guy wrote: I don't understand what your post is trying to say. You take a snippet from 08 which is so outdated and in my opinion completely irrelevant.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/h ... -rise.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccar ... 60aaef28fa

https://www.statista.com/statistics/290 ... tate-2013/

http://www.kolumnmagazine.com/2019/03/0 ... ork-times/

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2019/ ... p-ed.html#!

https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-hate-gro ... d-violence

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hate-gr ... 23125.html

common_sense_guy wrote: You mentioned there were a thousand hate groups. Could you name 10 of them instead of just reposting what somebody else says as fact.

Here’s the top ten from left and right …

https://listverse.com/2019/10/29/hate-groups-us/
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American politicians, both Democrat and Republican have historically tried to keep education away from the vast majority. For the Republicans, having an abundance of stupid people means their election promises and lies will never be questioned by their "true" base voters.

What we and the world are witnessing now by Trump and the Republicans has put corrupt Phillippine's and Venezualan elections to shame.........and no doubt we will see that corruption "bar" lowered a lot further as November 3rd approaches.
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common_sense_guy wrote:I don't understand what your post is trying to say. You take a snippet from 08 which is so outdated and in my opinion completely irrelevant. You mentioned there were a thousand hate groups. Could you name 10 of them instead of just reposting what somebody else says as fact. I find that incredibly hard to believe that there are a thousand known hate groups.
And in my opinion there is less racism today than there was in 08. Anybody who thinks differently should really really open your eyes to what other people are saying in the black community about their own people. Systemic racism is a myth. And anybody who says it isn't I would appreciate if they could point out exactly 1 entity where systemic racism is proven. Don't just say it's there because it has to be there. Point the finger at exactly one institution where there is systemic racism that is unavailable. Not your opinion I want fact.


You actually feel that there is *less* racism in America today than in 2008? Certainly you are entitled to your opinion but gosh, that doesn’t line up with what is happening there, the widened racial divide, and the trajectory of infused racist courage to speak with the current leader there.
I don’t believe that you will change your mind, no matter what, so we can agree to disagree.
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Ka-El wrote:
common_sense_guy wrote: I don't understand what your post is trying to say. You take a snippet from 08 which is so outdated and in my opinion completely irrelevant.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/h ... -rise.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccar ... 60aaef28fa

https://www.statista.com/statistics/290 ... tate-2013/

http://www.kolumnmagazine.com/2019/03/0 ... ork-times/

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2019/ ... p-ed.html#!

https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-hate-gro ... d-violence

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hate-gr ... 23125.html

common_sense_guy wrote: You mentioned there were a thousand hate groups. Could you name 10 of them instead of just reposting what somebody else says as fact.

Here’s the top ten from left and right …

https://listverse.com/2019/10/29/hate-groups-us/



But, but... I don't understand? CSG says no way to a thousand and yet all of these articles mention actually more than 1000. How can that be when there is no such thing as systemic racism? And some of these reports are from just last year? Could this be true?

I think you need to ease up on the research and the facts. Neither has any place here sir. Nope.
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Trump exposed the hate in leftists. That's why they hate him.

Did you know the founders of BLM are Marxists? Do you know anything about the ideology?

Hate is rising in America. The left has no other angle.

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Necro wrote:Trump exposed the hate in leftists. That's why they hate him.

Did you know the founders of BLM are Marxists? Do you know anything about the ideology?

Hate is rising in America. The left has no other angle.

lmbo

How many people know that there is an official organization Black Lives Matter, as opposed to supporting black lives matter?
I suspect not many.
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LANDM wrote:How many people know that there is an official organization Black Lives Matter, as opposed to supporting black lives matter? I suspect not many.


When did ignorance become an excuse?
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Necro wrote:Trump exposed the hate in leftists. That's why they hate him.

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Ka-El wrote:
common_sense_guy wrote: I don't understand what your post is trying to say. You take a snippet from 08 which is so outdated and in my opinion completely irrelevant.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/h ... -rise.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccar ... 60aaef28fa

https://www.statista.com/statistics/290 ... tate-2013/

http://www.kolumnmagazine.com/2019/03/0 ... ork-times/

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2019/ ... p-ed.html#!

https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-hate-gro ... d-violence

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hate-gr ... 23125.html

common_sense_guy wrote: You mentioned there were a thousand hate groups. Could you name 10 of them instead of just reposting what somebody else says as fact.

Here’s the top ten from left and right …

https://listverse.com/2019/10/29/hate-groups-us/

Kind of ironic that the first four of your links that you sent they didn't mention a single one. And then when you did show me the one that showed 10 of them. So I have to ask what are they defining as a hate group. How are they defining a hate group? Can you possibly give me their parameters for what they're calling a hate group.?. So what a hate group also be considered a group of wives that don't like their men watching NHL hockey. Would that be a hate group according to your definition or whoever's definition wrote these stories. And how about if you're going to write a story about a thousand hate groups why can't you bother to list all the hate groups. Seems like that would be a no-brainer if you were trying to prove your point. Don't believe everything you read cuz your first four links were the same story from different news outlets. Just because more news outlets carry the same story doesn't make it so. Rehash news that somebody else wrote. I don't necessarily give that credibility just because it was written. I think my point is they're throwing out an incredibly large number that they can't bother to verify so the people reading can make up their own mind on that's a hate group or no that's not a hate group that's just people sticking up for themselves not necessarily hating others.. racism is not stronger today than it was 10 15 20 30 years ago.. that's my opinion and I really don't care what others think.
I'm very bothered that everybody says Ho systemic racism is terrible and it's everywhere yet not a single person can point to the institution and their policies that prove systemic racism.
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