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rustled wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 9:56 am
So not once at the end of the entire ceremony - once at the end of each and every salute. The news cameras wouldn't have been on Biden the whole time, nor should they have been - that would have been highly disrespectful to the soldiers and their families.

Someone may well have been recording what the news cameras weren't. However, in the absence of footage, I'm inclined to believe these fathers' observations at the ceremony - he checked his watch after each of them - is more likely to be accurate than any Biden apologists' assertion he checked it "only once".
Why not look for yourselves, instead of relying on 2nd or even 3td hand information coming from biased sources like Faux News.

Let me know, if you catch President Biden looking at his watch more than at the 39 min. 43 second mark out of the 41 min. ceremony.

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This story shows it wasn't just happening on the tarmac, it was also happening ahead of the ceremony:
President Biden made his way on Sunday around a quiet room at Dover Air Force Base, a chamber filled with couches and chairs, with dignitaries and grieving families huddling together as the president came to speak to them privately, one family at a time.

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Some of the grieving relatives felt a need to interact directly with the president after losing their loved one, including Jiennah McCollum, who married Rylee McCollum just six months ago and is due to give birth to the couple’s child next month.

“Gigi wanted to look him in the eye and hear him,” McCollum’s sister Roice said in a text message to The Washington Post, using Jiennah’s nickname.

Roice recounted that Jiennah left disappointed. The president, she said, kept checking his watch and bringing up Beau.

SNIP

As the families left the building following their encounter with Biden, solemnly watching the bodies of their loved ones come off the C-17 plane, the emotions were still raw.

Schmitz said he grew agitated every time he saw Biden check his watch.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
While Snopes says they haven't yet found photographic or video evidence to show Biden checking his watch after every salute, they do point out the camera wasn't usually on Biden.

And unlike some of the Biden apologists, Snopes hasn't stooped to suggesting the grieving families who were there are lying.
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You're not relying on 2nd or 3rd hand information. It is spoken by eye-witnesses that watched Biden through the proceeding, before, during, and after. So after these fathers lost their sons, you call them liars? I bet they were honest while being interviewed by Hannity. They told Hannity what they saw. Not as though camera coverage was always on Biden. Although you would notice Biden had his hands behind him, then in front, then behind, then in front. What did get captured might be a tell-tale sign he was fidgeting with his arms and watch.

Psaki doesn't deny it.

Joe Biden did this during his presidential debate.

Roice McCollum added that Biden checked his watch while speaking with her brother’s widow.

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden did this all day long, especially while under stress and avoiding eye-contact.

So if two eye witness accounts say he did... I tend to believe that plus mounds of circumstantial evidence rather than the absence of video.

Biden's polls will drop once again because of this.

Biden treats his watch like Linus loves his blanket.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 11:48 am You're not relying on 2nd or 3rd hand information. It is spoken by eye-witnesses that watched Biden through the proceeding, before, during, and after. So after these fathers lost their sons, you call them liars? I bet they were honest while being interviewed by Hannity. They told Hannity what they saw. Not as though camera coverage was always on Biden. Although you would notice Biden had his hands behind him, then in front, then behind, then in front. What did get captured might be a tell-tale sign he was fidgeting with his arms and watch.

Psaki doesn't deny it.

Joe Biden did this during his presidential debate.

Roice McCollum added that Biden checked his watch while speaking with her brother’s widow.

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden did this all day long, especially while under stress and avoiding eye-contact.

So if two eye witness accounts say he did... I tend to believe that plus mounds of circumstantial evidence rather than the absence of video.

Biden's polls will drop once again because of this.

Biden treats his watch like Linus loves his blanket.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/vice-pres ... di-king/#x
I can only go by what I saw in the 41 minutes video, the only time I saw President Biden look at his watch was at the 39 min. 43 second mark and it's the same picture that's floating around the interenet....the exact same one. If there are proof, President Biden looked at his watch more than once after the ceremony was over, please provided it for us otherwise, all there is right now are hearsay 2nd and 3td accounts of what might happened....and no Faux Entertainment isn't news or reliable.
For Biden, he did appear to check his watch during his visit to Dover Air Force Base. But he did so after the dignified transfer ceremony was over.

Footage leading up to the moment shows Biden with his hand over his heart for about 30 seconds as vans carry the service members' remains off the tarmac. After the vans had left, Biden closes his eyes briefly before dropping his arms and glancing down at his watch.

At that point, everyone else in the video also stands at ease, indicating that the ceremony was over. About 35 seconds later, Biden and the first lady walk off the tarmac toward a black SUV.
This is exactly what I saw.
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Maybe its a smart watch and he is checking his heart rate, or calling Dick Tracy.
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The August Biden malapropisms

We all know what a "Bidenism" is — any dumb thing President Biden says or does. A Bidenism can be any verbal tic, spastic stutter, or lie. "Malapropisms" are in a subset of the larger subject of Bidenisms. Malapropisms occur when Biden misuses a word, using a word that means something very different from what he really wanted to say.

And so here they are — the Malapropisms of August. All dialogue guaranteed verbatim, and I can provide time-stamped video links to every single one of these.

...they're spending the most powerful message to their families...
...Our own Department of Energy pioneered and transformed the battery industry, where Barack and I w-w-went into offer, when we were in office...
...Jill & I would never have thought, we'd have to join you, the Capitol Rotunda, not once but twice. Once, to iron — to honor Officer Brian Sicknick, who lost his life...
...Those of us been around a while, we knew his dad, knew his dad well. He was Secretary a the United States — Sergeant-at-Arms in the United States Senate...
...It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated I know I've said that constantly, and others have as well. The vaxation of the unvaccinated...
...Thank you, man; you're a helluvan assalete...
...Hi-speed Internet — gonna be available and affordable everywhere, to everyone, so farmers nationwide can get the breast prices for their products at home and abroad...
...We started off the intercontinental railroad, in the late eighteen hunerds; all all kidding aside, we leak the coast...
...That's why, I've instructed the Federal Drug Administration to get these genetic drugs to consumers...
Cleaning up and calfing capping the orphan wells.
We've trapped uh we've tapped additional aircraft from the Department of Defense.
...My national security team and I have been closely monitoring the situation on the ground in Afghanistan and moving quickly to execute the plans we had put in place to respond to every constituency, including — and contingency — including the rapid collapse we're seeing now...
...Like their fellow brothers and sisters, who've died, defending our vision and our values, and the struggle against terrorism, of the fall on this day, they're part of a great, noble company of American heroes
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rustled wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 11:39 am This story shows it wasn't just happening on the tarmac, it was also happening ahead of the ceremony:
President Biden made his way on Sunday around a quiet room at Dover Air Force Base, a chamber filled with couches and chairs, with dignitaries and grieving families huddling together as the president came to speak to them privately, one family at a time.

SNIP

Some of the grieving relatives felt a need to interact directly with the president after losing their loved one, including Jiennah McCollum, who married Rylee McCollum just six months ago and is due to give birth to the couple’s child next month.

“Gigi wanted to look him in the eye and hear him,” McCollum’s sister Roice said in a text message to The Washington Post, using Jiennah’s nickname.

Roice recounted that Jiennah left disappointed. The president, she said, kept checking his watch and bringing up Beau.

SNIP

As the families left the building following their encounter with Biden, solemnly watching the bodies of their loved ones come off the C-17 plane, the emotions were still raw.

Schmitz said he grew agitated every time he saw Biden check his watch.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
While Snopes says they haven't yet found photographic or video evidence to show Biden checking his watch after every salute, they do point out the camera wasn't usually on Biden.

And unlike some of the Biden apologists, Snopes hasn't stooped to suggesting the grieving families who were there are lying.
It’s difficult to fathom that someone is being paid to study various photographs and videos and count how many times Biden checked his watch during a ceremony.

I saw Biden check his watch once at the end of the ceremony. It’s fantastic that Biden was present and paid his respects; what a class act.
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Nobody actually cares if Biden looked at his watch. There's actual important things happening. And if this is what people have time to focus on he's probably doing pretty good. At least he didn't wear a tan suit.
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JLives wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 11:17 pm Nobody actually cares if Biden looked at his watch.
Perhaps you don't. However, the families of the soldiers who were being brought home in coffins cared very much that Biden kept looking at his watch. Being dismissive of them seems to me to be taking partisanship too far.
JLives wrote:There's actual important things happening.
The pain of these soldiers families is one of the "actual important things" that was happening while Biden continually looked at his watch. And that's the point - to the people who had lost their family members, Biden's watch seemed more important to Biden than paying his respects.
JLives wrote:And if this is what people have time to focus on he's probably doing pretty good.
Biden's inability to focus on the important people in front of him, instead of his watch, shows he probably isn't doing "pretty good" as far as the families of the dead soldiers were concerned - making light of their expectations for their president is no better than those who are suggesting those families lied about him looking at his watch immediately after each of the coffins had been loaded.
JLives wrote:At least he didn't wear a tan suit.
IMO, "at least he didn't wear a tan suit" is dismissive of those families' pain - more taking partisanship too far.
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rustled wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 1:05 am
JLives wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 11:17 pm Nobody actually cares if Biden looked at his watch.
Perhaps you don't. However, the families of the soldiers who were being brought home in coffins cared very much that Biden kept looking at his watch. Being dismissive of them seems to me to be taking partisanship too far.
No one cares President Biden looked at his watch exactly one time after the ceremony was over. There is no evidences or proof he did it multiple times except partisan right wing shills trying to fling mud on something that was a dignified and a solemn ceremony just to put forward their unsubstantiated narrative.
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rustled wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 1:05 amIMO, "at least he didn't wear a tan suit" is dismissive of those families' pain - more taking partisanship too far.
Is it only "partisanship" when people try to discuss in these forums things you disagree with? The innuendo feels like only the views of conservatives are "not" partisan - and everything liberal must be discounted outright as "partisan" around here. It's too convenient.
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JLives wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 11:17 pm Nobody actually cares if Biden looked at his watch.
Far Left crazies in foreign countries still clinging to the "I don't think Biden is 100% senile yet" narrative may not care, but millions of Americans, who this clown is supposed to be leading, do care. A lot. Joe's behavior was highly insulting to all Americans, especially the military. The Dems destroyed the morale of their national police forces in 2020, and now they are actively destroying their military. They won't stop until they have rotted everything.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 5:56 pmar Left crazies in foreign countries still clinging to the "I don't think Biden is 100% senile yet" narrative may not care, but millions of Americans, who this clown is supposed to be leading, do care. A lot. Joe's behavior was highly insulting to all Americans, especially the military. The Dems destroyed the morale of their national police forces in 2020, and now they are actively destroying their military. They won't stop until they have rotted everything.
Do some of you walk around rain or shine with an umbrella? Because the whole sky is falling schtick is a bit overboard.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 5:56 pm
JLives wrote: Sep 2nd, 2021, 11:17 pm Nobody actually cares if Biden looked at his watch.
Far Left crazies in foreign countries still clinging to the "I don't think Biden is 100% senile yet" narrative may not care, but millions of Americans, who this clown is supposed to be leading, do care. A lot. Joe's behavior was highly insulting to all Americans, especially the military. The Dems destroyed the morale of their national police forces in 2020, and now they are actively destroying their military. They won't stop until they have rotted everything.
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