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Biden Helped Democrats Avert a ’22 Disaster. What About ’24?

Expecting a cataclysmic midterm election, many Democrats had been bracing for an end-of-year reckoning with whether President Biden, who once declared himself a “bridge” to a new generation, should give way to a new 2024 standard-bearer.

But the stronger-than-expected Democratic showing has taken the pressure off.

And Donald J. Trump’s decision to announce a run for president again, and the Republican backlash against him, have abruptly quieted Democrats’ public expressions of anxiety over Mr. Biden’s poor approval ratings, while reminding them of Mr. Biden’s past success over Mr. Trump.

Now, as Mr. Biden mulls a decision over whether to seek a second term, interviews with more than two dozen Democratic elected officials and strategists suggest that, whatever misgivings some Democrats may harbor about another Biden candidacy, his party is more inclined for now to defer to him than to try to force a frontal clash with a sitting president.

In recent days, officials ranging from Representative Henry Cuellar, one of the most conservative House Democrats, to Representative Pramila Jayapal, the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, have said they would support another Biden bid.

In private conversations, younger Democratic operatives have shifted from discussing potential job opportunities in a competitive presidential primary to gaming out what a Biden re-election campaign might look like. And a variety of lawmakers have lauded Mr. Biden for the party’s history-defying midterm performance, crediting him with the major legislative accomplishments they were able to run on and with pressing a message that cast Republican candidates as extremists who threatened democracy.

Already, Mr. Biden appears to be improving Democrats’ confidence in him: A recent USA Today/Ipsos poll found that 71 percent of Democrats surveyed believe he could win in 2024, up from 60 percent who said the same in August, though they were evenly divided on whether he should be the 2024 nominee.

The concerns about Mr. Biden’s overall weak standing in public opinion polls — which was a burden for many Democratic candidates — have not dissipated entirely. And some Democrats say that the challenges confronting the 80-year-old president and his party should not be glossed over in the party’s relief over the outcome of the elections.

Stanley B. Greenberg, the veteran Democratic pollster, pointed to a postelection survey that highlighted Democratic vulnerabilities. The poll, conducted by the organization Mr. Greenberg helped found, warned of “the continuing risk of a Republican challenge centered on borders and crime.” It determined that “Trump may have been weakened in this election, but another leader with that message” poses “an accelerated risk.”

In an interview, Mr. Greenberg said he came away from the survey “believing Democrats have huge issues to address.” While “President Biden has done remarkable things,” he added, “I think we need a new voice to address huge challenges but also huge opportunities.”

Surveys of voters leaving the polls found that two-thirds, including nearly a third of Democrats, said they did not want Mr. Biden to run for president again — though Mr. Biden’s allies have noted those numbers are not predictive of how voters would respond when presented with a choice between the president and a Republican candidate. At a postelection news conference, Mr. Biden insisted that those poll ratings would not affect his decision. He has said that he intends to run but planned to discuss the race with his family over the holidays and could announce a decision early next year.

David Axelrod, who served as chief strategist for President Barack Obama, said the midterm elections had given Mr. Biden “a little giddyup in his step.” As for a run for a second term, Mr. Axelrod said, “If he were 60 and not 80, there would be absolutely no doubt.”
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Coles Notes version - Biden good cuz he not Trump
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gertlush wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 12:39 pm Coles Notes version - Biden good cuz he not Trump
Biden based on his actions has done way more for american ppll than the former prez could dream of . :130:
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captkirkcanada wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 12:56 pm
gertlush wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 12:39 pm Coles Notes version - Biden good cuz he not Trump
Biden based on his actions has done way more for american ppll than the former prez could dream of . :130:
[icon_lol2.gif] you might wanna look at the Senator from Mastercard's whole career there...

His nickname was "The Senator from Mastercard"... yup, real friend of the workin man
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captkirkcanada wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 12:56 pm
gertlush wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 12:39 pm Coles Notes version - Biden good cuz he not Trump
Biden based on his actions has done way more for american ppll than the former prez could dream of . :130:
LOL - this is 100% solid gold BS. Senile sleepy flatulent Joe has been a complete trainwreck of a president. Worse than anyone could ever dream of. And yet here the US is.
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captkirkcanada wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 12:56 pm

Biden based on his actions has done way more for american ppll than the former prez could dream of . :130:
So true! Biden is doing an amazing job and is a fantastic leader! It's no wonder his party did so well in the midterms.

Keep up the great work, Joe! :130:
The best part about the 'twitter files' is where Tucker Carlson asks Hunter Biden to help his kid get into college.

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gertlush wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 1:41 pm

[icon_lol2.gif] you might wanna look at the Senator from Mastercard's whole career there...

His nickname was "The Senator from Mastercard"... yup, real friend of the workin man
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I think there is some confusion here - provoking a war, crashing the economy and allowing unlimited migrant flows are, generally, bad things. Looked at in that light Biden might be considered a disaster.
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gertlush wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 4:20 pm I think there is some confusion here - provoking a war, crashing the economy and allowing unlimited migrant flows are, generally, bad things. Looked at in that light Biden might be considered a disaster.
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Biden's presidency summed up in one picture.
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gertlush wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 4:20 pm I think there is some confusion here - provoking a war, crashing the economy and allowing unlimited migrant flows are, generally, bad things. Looked at in that light Biden might be considered a disaster.
If Americans believed that - they wouldn't be the country they are today with the economic power they rely on. Immigration made the USA what they are today. Immigration from Mexico made California the 4th biggest economy in the world. Nothing backs up immigration hysteria.

And wars are the cash lifeline of credit with no limit for countries. And in the case of the US wars are necessary to let the CIA simply lose 2 billion plus with no paper trail. Money flowing for 20 years in Afghanistan. Halliburton rebuilding Iraq/Afghan infrastructure supposedly. I think the US will revert to pre-WW2. Let Europe fend for itself and make money seemingly helping.
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And to be clear I don't think Trump or the RINOs have much else better on offer. We are at final looting stage, nobody wants to take ownership of this train wreck. Just take what you can safe in the knowledge IBGYBG

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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 5:21 pm
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Biden's presidency summed up in one picture.
This perfectly illustrates the horrible train wreck that Biden had to clean up from his disastrous predecessor. And given how well the Democrats did in the midterms it’s clear that American voters appreciate all of Biden’s amazing work!
The best part about the 'twitter files' is where Tucker Carlson asks Hunter Biden to help his kid get into college.

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nucksRnum1 wrote: Nov 28th, 2022, 5:44 pm

If Americans believed that - they wouldn't be the country they are today with the economic power they rely on.
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