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Where is Biden campaigning today?
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rustled wrote:Where is Biden campaigning today?
I read earlier that he's taking a day off.
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fluffy wrote:
rustled wrote:Where is Biden campaigning today?
I read earlier that he's taking a day off.
I wondered.

This close to the election, taking yet another day off from campaigning raises questions.
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rustled wrote:This close to the election, taking yet another day off from campaigning raises questions.
It certainly has the FOX News team in high gear.

I'm thinking that with the polls giving him a double digit lead he's got a little wiggle room.
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fluffy wrote:
rustled wrote:This close to the election, taking yet another day off from campaigning raises questions.
It certainly has the FOX News team in high gear.

I'm thinking that with the polls giving him a double digit lead he's got a little wiggle room.

I'd bet that's what thenDemocrats are hoping people think!

While IMO "unprecedented" is a word that gets tossed around way too much these days, it seems to apply here. Even with wiggle room, it seems to me the amount of time he's taking of is reasonable grounds for speculation.
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I'm sure when Joe gets in the White House he won't be working hard at being at the golf course every other day or watch a constant stream of Faux news injected into his veins 24/7. It's hilarious for Trump supporters to be asking about someone else's work schedule when their guy only works at watching TV all day or else golfing. Good grief.
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foenix wrote: It's hilarious for Trump supporters to be asking about someone else's work schedule when their guy only works at watching TV all day or else golfing. Good grief.
it's even more hilarious when Joe Biden is sitting at home all weekend doing nothing while Trump is out doing two rallies a day, and this is dismissed as "watching TV all day or else golfing". Is this self-delusion on purpose, or what truly is going on here. The reality is plain for everyone to see, the Dems think that they can win this election sitting around on their butts. Again. It didn't work in 2016, why would it work this time? Are they just listening to their own press again? Did they learn NOTHING from 2016?

How could Trump be trailing Hillary in Wisconsin in 2016 by 7 points in the polls, and still win the state? Now there's Joe winning the state right now by six points. So that means just follow Killary's lead and never go there to campaign, because the polls say that there is no need to go there? What is going on?? Why are the Dems so freaking dumb???
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Is this why Biden's not out in public today?
Most people are missing two key points about the story regarding Hunter Biden’s alleged hard drive. First, the relevant parts of the story are not about Hunter but about his father, Joe. Second, there is a high likelihood that the bulk of the materials from the supposed Biden computer are real.

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Remember that what the Biden laptop reportedly contained involves a cache of 40,000 emails, text messages by the thousands, and other documents, most of them replete with shorthand references, dates, times, nicknames, and financial details. Most of them are almost assuredly quotidian and unnewsworthy but almost impossible to fake with any degree of success. (Faking a single document in a way that can fool somebody such as Dan Rather is one thing; faking tens of thousands is exponentially harder.)

The reality is that much of what has been reported can be independently assessed for veracity. There are notes supposedly in Hunter Biden’s handwriting; does the handwriting match with other samples? There are emails to his daughter; do they use terms and expressions unique to the Bidens? There are financial details that can be checked against already known information, schedules that can be checked, e-addresses and messages that can be cross-referenced, and a plethora of other material that would be difficult for even the best collection of fraudsters to portray believably.

Then, of course, there are the photos and purported videos, many of them clearly private (and sometimes compromising) ones of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and their family, all on the same hard drive. They are real. They were mixed in with this huge cache of other materials.

There’s almost no way to put all this together in a way that isn’t readily falsifiable, if it is indeed false. For that matter, it might be instructive that the Biden campaign has not denied categorically that Joe Biden met with the Ukrainian executive at issue in the first emails reported this week by the New York Post, nor has Hunter Biden’s attorney denied the laptop was his.

None of this should matter to voters unless parts of it implicate not just Hunter Biden but also his father, who is leading the polls to be president of the United States for an election 18 days hence. Alas, it does indeed implicate Joe Biden, sometimes directly, sometimes by only half a degree of separation.
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rustled wrote:Is this why Biden's not out in public today?
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I think that we can expect a "hard hitting" Bob Woodward expose on this soon Rustled. Along with the NYT and the WaPo. I can't wait to see Rachel Madcow devote an entire night to this explosive story.

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rustled wrote:Is this why Biden's not out in public today?
Most people are missing two key points about the story regarding Hunter Biden’s alleged hard drive. First, the relevant parts of the story are not about Hunter but about his father, Joe. Second, there is a high likelihood that the bulk of the materials from the supposed Biden computer are real.

SNIP8
Remember that what the Biden laptop reportedly contained involves a cache of 40,000 emails, text messages by the thousands, and other documents, most of them replete with shorthand references, dates, times, nicknames, and financial details. Most of them are almost assuredly quotidian and unnewsworthy but almost impossible to fake with any degree of success. (Faking a single document in a way that can fool somebody such as Dan Rather is one thing; faking tens of thousands is exponentially harder.)

The reality is that much of what has been reported can be independently assessed for veracity. There are notes supposedly in Hunter Biden’s handwriting; does the handwriting match with other samples? There are emails to his daughter; do they use terms and expressions unique to the Bidens? There are financial details that can be checked against already known information, schedules that can be checked, e-addresses and messages that can be cross-referenced, and a plethora of other material that would be difficult for even the best collection of fraudsters to portray believably.

Then, of course, there are the photos and purported videos, many of them clearly private (and sometimes compromising) ones of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and their family, all on the same hard drive. They are real. They were mixed in with this huge cache of other materials.

There’s almost no way to put all this together in a way that isn’t readily falsifiable, if it is indeed false. For that matter, it might be instructive that the Biden campaign has not denied categorically that Joe Biden met with the Ukrainian executive at issue in the first emails reported this week by the New York Post, nor has Hunter Biden’s attorney denied the laptop was his.

None of this should matter to voters unless parts of it implicate not just Hunter Biden but also his father, who is leading the polls to be president of the United States for an election 18 days hence. Alas, it does indeed implicate Joe Biden, sometimes directly, sometimes by only half a degree of separation.
This is an opinion piece. For greater context and the full text, please see
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... -continues
For context I think we are all aware that this is another Conservative publication trying to deflect from the true story of the election. That the current President has failed utterly in his response to the worse Pandemic since the Spanish Flu and hasn't done anything to help the average Americans economically during this time. I'm sure the people see that Joe Biden is the type of leader to get them through this crisis.

There is a lot of what ifs, suppositions, opinions, guesses and even outright lie like say, the Biden campaign hasn't categorically denied that Biden met with the Ukraine executive in thiscarticle. I guess the author is like some of the poster on Castanet because that was one the first things they denied. That's called selective recall.

There is also the question of timing. If the disk are indeed authentic why not release it months before so that the FBI can do a through search to verify it's authenticity, not 18 days before where it will just cause chaos without verifying if this drive is fake or not. I'm pretty sure, considering the source, 2 acolytes of Trump, both in trouble with the law will do anything to cut a deal with Trump puppet and minion Barr and that is why they released it 18 days out from the election.
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foenix wrote:There is also the question of timing. If the disk are indeed authentic why not release it months before so that the FBI can do a through search to verify it's authenticity, not 18 days before where it will just cause chaos without verifying if this drive is fake or not. I'm pretty sure, considering the source, 2 acolytes of Trump, both in trouble with the law will do anything to cut a deal with Trump puppet and minion Barr and that is why they released it 18 days out from the election.
Funny you should ask. If their story is true, the FBI did not come and get it when the shop owner first contacted them about it. So there's another question for you to ponder - why didn't the FBI come and get it weeks earlier?

Perhaps it's all nonsense - someone made up thousands or personal photos and emails to put on a laptop that never belonged to Hunter Biden and sent a copy of the faked hard drive to the New York Post - who failed to recognize that it was fake - and sent the original to the FBI, who haven't yet determined that it's a fake so that's why they haven't done anything about the people who "invented" these fake emails and photos and stories incriminating the Bidens. And then these people faked Hunter Biden's signature on a receipt, faked a phone call and an email from a Biden lawyer asking for the laptop, and went public to tell people they had them, and the FBI are still doing nothing - although it would be a simple thing to prove the lawyer didn't ask for the laptop back. And if THAT is the case, WHY are the FBI doing nothing about this "hoax" being perpetrated on the Bidens?

Other questions to consider: Why - whether the story is true or not - did social media block this particular story in a way they have never blocked "unverified" stories about Biden's opponent? And why - whether the story is true or not - is Biden not campaigning this close to the election?

Enquiring minds want to know.
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rustled wrote:
foenix wrote:There is also the question of timing. If the disk are indeed authentic why not release it months before so that the FBI can do a through search to verify it's authenticity, not 18 days before where it will just cause chaos without verifying if this drive is fake or not. I'm pretty sure, considering the source, 2 acolytes of Trump, both in trouble with the law will do anything to cut a deal with Trump puppet and minion Barr and that is why they released it 18 days out from the election.
Funny you should ask. If their story is true, the FBI did not come and get it when the shop owner first contacted them about it. So there's another question for you to ponder - why didn't the FBI come and get it weeks earlier?

Perhaps it's all nonsense - someone made up thousands or personal photos and emails to put on a laptop that never belonged to Hunter Biden and sent a copy of the faked hard drive to the New York Post - who failed to recognize that it was fake - and sent the original to the FBI, who haven't yet determined that it's a fake so that's why they haven't done anything about the people who "invented" these fake emails and photos and stories incriminating the Bidens. And then these people faked Hunter Biden's signature on a receipt, faked a phone call and an email from a Biden lawyer asking for the laptop, and went public to tell people they had them, and the FBI are still doing nothing - although it would be a simple thing to prove the lawyer didn't ask for the laptop back. And if THAT is the case, WHY are the FBI doing nothing about this "hoax" being perpetrated on the Bidens?

Other questions to consider: Why - whether the story is true or not - did social media block this particular story in a way they have never blocked "unverified" stories about Biden's opponent? And why - whether the story is true or not - is Biden not campaigning this close to the election?

Enquiring minds want to know.
The key point is that the Trump acolytes Giuliani and Bannon orchestrated it. That is a big problem for anyone not named Trump supporters. See the problem?
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foenix wrote:
rustled wrote:Funny you should ask. If their story is true, the FBI did not come and get it when the shop owner first contacted them about it. So there's another question for you to ponder - why didn't the FBI come and get it weeks earlier?

Perhaps it's all nonsense - someone made up thousands or personal photos and emails to put on a laptop that never belonged to Hunter Biden and sent a copy of the faked hard drive to the New York Post - who failed to recognize that it was fake - and sent the original to the FBI, who haven't yet determined that it's a fake so that's why they haven't done anything about the people who "invented" these fake emails and photos and stories incriminating the Bidens. And then these people faked Hunter Biden's signature on a receipt, faked a phone call and an email from a Biden lawyer asking for the laptop, and went public to tell people they had them, and the FBI are still doing nothing - although it would be a simple thing to prove the lawyer didn't ask for the laptop back. And if THAT is the case, WHY are the FBI doing nothing about this "hoax" being perpetrated on the Bidens?

Other questions to consider: Why - whether the story is true or not - did social media block this particular story in a way they have never blocked "unverified" stories about Biden's opponent? And why - whether the story is true or not - is Biden not campaigning this close to the election?

Enquiring minds want to know.
The key point is that the Trump acolytes Giuliani and Bannon orchestrated it. That is a big problem for anyone not named Trump supporters. See the problem?
The key point is that the Bidens and the Biden campaign and the appropriate federal agencies have done nothing to stop them.

No "cease and desist", no nothing.

See the problem?
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rustled wrote: The key point is that the Bidens and the Biden campaign and the appropriate federal agencies have done nothing to stop them.

No "cease and desist", no nothing.

See the problem?
Stop "them" who? no " cease and detest" for who?

No I have no idea what you are talking about.
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rustled wrote:Other questions to consider: Why - whether the story is true or not - did social media block this particular story in a way they have never blocked "unverified" stories about Biden's opponent?
Easy, as mentioned in a post earlier, Face book and Twitter have now stopped posting fake news. A good thing this close to an election. They should have been doing it years ago.

If the tweet or face book post turns out to be true, they'll post it.
If Biden's camp were to say and post the US is turning the corner and the virus is on the outs, they would be blocked as well.

And no, I'm guessing the idea of posting it and let the viewers decide if it is true or not is not in their mandate any more.
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