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[liisgo]

The midterms showed Democrats don’t need to pander on crime

Here’s another positive outcome of the surprising midterm elections: They should put an end to the crime scare.
I don’t mean the public concern about crime, which is still at unacceptable levels, but the fearmongering by Democratic pollsters, operatives and politicians about the political issue of crime and its effects on the Democratic Party.

In the run-up to the elections, Republicans went all in charging Democrats with being weak on crime and tying Democratic candidates to the “defund the police” slogan. The GOP spent more ad money railing about rising crime than about the economy or inflation. Pre-election Washington Post polls showed Republicans with a double-digit advantage on the issue, far larger than their edge on the economy or immigration.

In response, Democratic Party operatives began rending their garments. Paul Begala agonized that “I have never seen a more destructive slogan than ‘defund the police.’ ” Pollster Stanley B. Greenberg warned that “the 2022 midterms will be remembered as a toxic campaign, but an effective one in labeling Democrats as ‘pro-crime.’ ” New York Times columnist Thomas B. Edsall even recycled Elaine Ciulla Kamarck and William Galston’s updated version of their infamous 1989 “Politics of Evasion” essay, which argued that the Democratic brand was poison, and that the party “is in the grip of myths that block progress toward victory.”

The only hope, these voices said, was to do a Bill Clinton: Pander on the issue. Take it away from Republicans. Clinton ended up supporting the death penalty and calling for putting another 100,000 police officers on the street. (Unmentioned was the horrific result of his 1994 crime bill, which helped usher in a new era of mass incarceration that he later apologized for.)

Then came the election, and the results were clear. CNN exit polls showed that voters ranked inflation as the top factor in their vote, followed closely by abortion. Only 11 percent mentioned crime. Democrats — including many calling for criminal justice reform — fared better in the midterms than any incumbent party since 2002, when Republicans benefited in the wake of 9/11. In stark contrast, though Clinton had succeeded in winning a small edge for Democrats on the crime issue by 1994, the party was routed in that year’s midterms, losing 52 seats and control of the House.

The candidate seemingly most vulnerable to the crime scare this year was John Fetterman, running for the open U.S. Senate seat in Pennsylvania. As lieutenant governor, Fetterman had devoted much of his energy to working on getting nonviolent offenders released from prison. Republicans poured money into attacking him on the issue — spending nearly $12 million on crime ads, according to AdImpact, compared to $2.5 million on the economy and inflation. Fetterman not only won, he picked up a Senate seat for the Democrats.

Reform candidates fared well nationwide. As noted in a summary by Chloe Cockburn of the criminal justice reform group Just Impact, Mary Moriarty, a career public defender who clashed with local police and prosecutors, will become the next prosecutor of Minnesota’s Hennepin County, beating a Republican who denounced reform as endangering public safety. In places as varied as Memphis, Dallas, San Antonio and Polk County, Iowa, reform candidates for prosecutor won against law-and-order types. Tina Kotek won the Oregon governorship as a reformer defending spending on public health, treatment and recovery capacity.

Voters aren’t as stupid as the political pros think. African Americans, for good reason, are much more likely to say that violent crime is important to their midterm vote than Hispanic or White voters. Yet more than 8 in 10 Black voters went for Democrats. African Americans see criminal justice reform as a priority and are, also for good reason, less trusting of the police than White Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ogressive/

If you believe in what your stating above , that of the crime explosion across this country is not on the majority of minds compared to say abortion, and the use of it as a major concern of the republicans. Examples of the black community voting in majority for the dem's etc, why do you post and base your stances from media sources that only the minority are interested in?
It looks like you do nit respect your own guidelines. Or chose to use them differently from one issue to another. Msnbc has lost more viewership than any. They have canceled most shiws. Fired employees in an attempt to change. Yet you base your beliefs on what the majority has decided is not acceptable nor important.
Why do you pander msnbc??? Clearly no one else does.

[The Green Barbarian]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ekend.html

LOL - AOC with another loser - her alarmist garbage about the man-made climate change myth flops big time.

[The Green Barbarian]

Illegal migrants dropped off in front of the brain-dead idiot Kamala Harris' house on Christmas eve - maybe now the so-called "Border Czar" may acknowledge the actual illegal immigrants that she is supposed to be dealing with? Maybe? What a lazy loser she is. Just the dumbest and worst VP in US history, but yet still not as bad as her senile idiot of a boss Joe.

[JLives]

Illegal migrants dropped off in front of the brain-dead idiot Kamala Harris' house on Christmas eve - maybe now the so-called "Border Czar" may acknowledge the actual illegal immigrants that she is supposed to be dealing with? Maybe? What a lazy loser she is. Just the dumbest and worst VP in US history, but yet still not as bad as her senile idiot of a boss Joe.

It's so disgusting to use migrants as political pawns.

[The Green Barbarian]

Illegal migrants dropped off in front of the brain-dead idiot Kamala Harris' house on Christmas eve - maybe now the so-called "Border Czar" may acknowledge the actual illegal immigrants that she is supposed to be dealing with? Maybe? What a lazy loser she is. Just the dumbest and worst VP in US history, but yet still not as bad as her senile idiot of a boss Joe.

It's so disgusting to use migrants as political pawns.

So then you agree that Kamala Harris disgusting, as well as stupid and lazy? As well as the MSM for ignoring freezing illegals in El Paso? Glad we can agree on something. The Dems just plain suck, and are consumed by pure evil too.

[65deluxe]

It's so disgusting to use migrants as political pawns.

So then you agree that Kamala Harris disgusting, as well as stupid and lazy? As well as the MSM for ignoring freezing illegals in El Paso? Glad we can agree on something. The Dems just plain suck, and are consumed by pure evil too.

Couldnt agree more. But its okay with the left as long as it isnt Trump doing it. 4 million illegals across the southern US border since kameltoe harris was assigned to get at the root cause. Both her and China Joe should be nailed with treason.

[liisgo]

And here we are today, a far worse catastrophic border issue. Numbers of crime, murders, child trafficking, cartel involvement, drug trafficking, etc. etc. all far worse, record setting, uncontrollable, unstoppable.
All this from a political party that used its issue as its biggest soul platform for its party.
It also made such hard line commitment and promise to the people to fix it. Make it better. Deal with it.
And here we are today.
Obviously the biggest, complete deceitful campaign promise made and nothing comes from it.
No accountability. No judgement. No barrage of media coverage. No ownership of it.
Just silence from the party and ignorance to its very well known facts from millions of people that bought into its political campaign and manipulation of their minds.
If we have ever witnessed a bigger, more media driving propaganda campaign that obviously had zero plan, ability, design behind its massive usage, let someone show it.

Watch Harris speak so promising, with such belief in her own abilities, with such promise, from 3 years ago.
Now, remember she is the VP of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ObJsiM-PsQ

[I Think]

It is rumored that if Liz Cheney can get about 30 or so republicans to vote for her as speaker of the house, the Democrats could elect her speaker.
Watch qpublican heads implode if that happens.

[The Green Barbarian]

It is rumored that if Liz Cheney can get about 30 or so republicans to vote for her as speaker of the house, the Democrats could elect her speaker.
Watch qpublican heads implode if that happens.

I won't as no one knows who that is.

[I Think]

*removed*

[The Green Barbarian]

Dumbocrats blasted, and rightly so. What utter fools the Dumbocrats are:

PARTING SHOTS': Dems blasted for attempt to score last-minute 'cheap political points' with Trump taxes
'Who really cares about Donald Trump’s tax returns the day before New Years?' a former advisor to the Clintons told Fox News

One-party control in the nation's capital will come to an end next week as Democrats are forced to relinquish control of the House to Republicans, but that didn't prevent Democrats and President Biden's administration from offering last minute jabs during their final days in power.

Democrats from the House Ways and Means Committee released a partially redacted version of former President Trump's tax returns Friday, completing a longtime objective of Democrats to make Trump's finances public after the former president unsuccessfully tried to stop them in court.

"It’s all politics," said Fox News contributor Mark Penn, a former advisor to President Clinton and Hillary Clinton. "These are final parting shots as the Democrats lose control of the committees and the power they had in the House. Who really cares about Donald Trump’s tax returns the day before New Years?"

The release of Trump's tax documents wasn't the only Democratic attempt to score political points before the GOP takes control of the House. The White House publicized a letter to Republicans on the Oversight Committee stating they wouldn't respond to existing document requests, and political strategist from both sides of the aisle told Fox News Digital that it appears the Democratic Party may be trying to undermine the agenda and priorities of Republicans when the 118th Congress convenes for the first time on Tuesday.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/partin ... rump-taxes

[The Green Barbarian]

Dumbocrat Peloser torched for embarrassing behavior:

[LazyChris]

Dumbocrat

Wrong thread, this is a thread about Democrats, not made up nonsense.

[The Green Barbarian]

Wrong thread, this is a thread about Democrats, not made up nonsense.

lol - the hypocrisy is just off the charts here. We get it the Dumbocrat lovers only want it one way. The Dumbocrats just plain suck.

[I Think]

As the qpublicans fumble the red tsunami in a tea cup, the Democrats sit back and watch laughing their heads off at the idea that qpublicans think they are ready to govern. Some republicans are talking to Democrats in the house about helping elect kevin. Oh how far the republicans have fallen.