Ukraine war/President/news

[Drip_Torch]

Oh Gawd, we're in this now... there's some serious gamer's playing up late tonight and the tango list is long.

I'm going to be surprised if Russian's aren't listening to the Russian translated "Ram Ranch", by Grant McDonald, before this afternoon is over. (And yes, I'm sorry to report there is such a thing, and even sorrier to report I've heard it.)

I just caught wind of what's going on here. Epic... this should be good, great, awesome - or, cause the world to end. We'll see.



I'm watching three different screens and the closed caption translations are different on each of them.

Here's an example;
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Say what you will about Western media, but they did have the "decency" to cut the closed caption feeds, once they realized what was going on.

Update from the ground: The airshow has been cancelled due to weather? Huh? The weather looks fine, but that's the story and they're sticking to it.

Final update: It's over.

If you're reading this, it means the world is still spinning and nothing happened. Putin can go back underground and unclench his fists now. (Okay, probably not the right one, but I'm sure his doctor has that all under control)


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Defense Minister, General Sergei Shoigu can take off all those medals he's earned, by never serving a single day in the Russian Military, and go back to shaking hands and nodding yes.

That was worth saying up for. I'm sure you'll hear bits of it, but the western media has too much class and dignity, to tell you the full story. There were some laughs along the way.

[Silverstarqueen]

My Russian is a little rusty, wish I could translate the Russian news.

[Queen K]

Where oh Where are our Trio of Russian Comrades to defend Putin's BIG DAY?

[Silverstarqueen]

Where oh Where are our Trio of Russian Comrades to defend Putin's BIG DAY?

I thought the doctors did a good job of putting Humpty Dumpty together again for his big day. Painkillers and cocaine probably help a lot. A little weakness still in that right arm.

[BC Landlord]

Where oh Where are our Trio of Russian Comrades to defend Putin's BIG DAY?

It’s not “Putin’s Day”. The Victory Day celebrates the end of WW2. Russia (Soviets then) played a crucial role in defeating Nazi Germany. And that’s something for the whole world to celebrate. They were fighting Nazis back then, and they are fighting them nowadays. The fact that they had to do it again is sad.

[Silverstarqueen]

Where oh Where are our Trio of Russian Comrades to defend Putin's BIG DAY?

It’s not “Putin’s Day”. The Victory Day celebrates the end of WW2. Russia (Soviets then) played a crucial role in defeating Nazi Germany. And that’s something for the whole world to celebrate. They were fighting Nazis back then, and they are fighting them nowadays. The fact that they had to do it again is sad.

But Putin didn't say much in his speeches about how this war against nazis is going for his soldiers, how many won't be returning home, how many injured, how many tanks and ships lost in the Great "Not a War Really". He didn't mention the Ukrainian civilians being bombed and killed while he's "liberating " them. He didn't mention the many many sanctions against Russia because the rest of the world is horrified at what he is doing to Ukraine. Wouldn't this have been a good time to bring Russians up to speed on how he's performing in thie war.

[Drip_Torch]

Where oh Where are our Trio of Russian Comrades to defend Putin's BIG DAY?

It’s not “Putin’s Day”. The Victory Day celebrates the end of WW2. Russia (Soviets then) played a crucial role in defeating Nazi Germany. And that’s something for the whole world to celebrate. They were fighting Nazis back then, and they are fighting them nowadays. The fact that they had to do it again is sad.

Obvious you weren't allowed to stay up late last night and watch.

Yes, in theory what you're saying is all well and good, however, yesterday was Putin's Day. In front of the few remaining WWII survivors he rambled on about NATO and used the occasion to justify his war in Ukraine. There wasn't even an acknowledgement of the soldiers being lost in Ukraine today. Yep, just like you, he used the occasion to make the foolish assertion about fighting Nazis in Ukraine.

[Even Steven]

Wouldn't this have been a good time to bring Russians up to speed on how he's performing in thie war.

Pretty sure that Russian people are better informed on these topics than you. They know all about what happened in Ukraine over the last 30 years while you know nothing about it, they know about what happened in 2014, they know about the war that Ukraine has been waging for eight years on the Russian civilian population, and they know all about sanctions - as they lived under them for the majority of their lives. So, pretty sure they're set.

And you don't even know what they're celebrating today, yet think they're not informed lol. Ignorance galore.

[foenix]

Where oh Where are our Trio of Russian Comrades to defend Putin's BIG DAY?

It’s not “Putin’s Day”. The Victory Day celebrates the end of WW2. Russia (Soviets then) played a crucial role in defeating Nazi Germany. And that’s something for the whole world to celebrate. They were fighting Nazis back then, and they are fighting them nowadays. The fact that they had to do it again is sad.

Wasn't the Russian's allies with Hitlerer in the beginning of the war?......that is until Hitler and the Nazi turned on the Russians. It was sad, the Russian didn't know a friend from a foe back then just like now.

[Drip_Torch]

For those of you that missed the parade there's a pretty good highlight reel available here:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1523741494305488896

[Drip_Torch]

The Canadian spotter working alongside Wali describes what he's encountered in Ukraine.

[foenix]

Oh look...some Russian soldiers don't want to be graveyard fodder......

US sees "anecdotal reports" of Russian troops in Ukraine not obeying orders, senior defense official says

The US sees “anecdotal reports” of Russian troops and “mid-grade officers at various levels, even up to the battalion level” refusing to obey orders to move forward in the new Donbas offensive in Ukraine, according to a senior US defense official.

The official said these officers “have either refused to obey orders or are not obeying them with the same measure of alacrity that you would expect an officer to obey.”

Russian forces have struggled with widespread morale problems since the beginning of the invasion, according to this official, which is just one of numerous problems that has plagued the Russian military during this war.

Russian forces are also still facing logistics issues that are slowing their progress, according to the official.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ru ... 0431a10322

[Drip_Torch]

It’s not “Putin’s Day”. The Victory Day celebrates the end of WW2. Russia (Soviets then) played a crucial role in defeating Nazi Germany. And that’s something for the whole world to celebrate. They were fighting Nazis back then, and they are fighting them nowadays. The fact that they had to do it again is sad.

Wasn't the Russian's allies with Hitlerer in the beginning of the war?......that is until Hitler and the Nazi turned on the Russians. It was sad, the Russian didn't know a friend from a foe back then just like now.

Yeah, they invaded Poland with the Nazis, from the east on Sept 17th, 1939. Speaking of which, can you imagine the audacity of attempting to hold a Victory Day in Warsaw today, with everything going on in the region? Yet, that's exactly what the Russian ambassador attempted to do.

It didn't go over all that well...

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1 ... 0274091009

May 9th, the day after VE Day, Russian's commemorate the defeat of Germany and the expansion of Soviet rule over eastern Europe...



In reality, only because their previous arrangement with the Nazis didn't work out quite as it was intended, and the countries that now form NATO moved heaven and earth to supply them with everything they needed.

While we celebrate "Remembrance", they celebrate a rewrite of history.

[BC Landlord]

It’s not “Putin’s Day”. The Victory Day celebrates the end of WW2. Russia (Soviets then) played a crucial role in defeating Nazi Germany. And that’s something for the whole world to celebrate. They were fighting Nazis back then, and they are fighting them nowadays. The fact that they had to do it again is sad.

Wasn't the Russian's allies with Hitlerer in the beginning of the war?......that is until Hitler and the Nazi turned on the Russians. It was sad, the Russian didn't know a friend from a foe back then just like now.

That's a lame argument. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was about non-aggression, hardly an "alliance". In the late 30', in the aftermath of WW1, many countries were not prepared for for an all out war against militarily superior Nazi Germany. For example, Neville Chamberlain also made a similar pact (1938 Munich Agreement) with Hitler and Mussolini. And we don't call Britons Nazi collaborators for that.

On the other hand, Stepan Bandera's nationalists actively collaborated with Nazi Germany in the extermination and deportation of many Jews and other "untermenschen", and fighting the Red Army along Nazis during the operation Barbarossa. Nowadays Ukrainian troops are their ideological followers.

[Drip_Torch]

^^^

I had to check 9 facts about the outlaw duo Bonnie and Clyde today.



https://www.biography.com/news/bonnie-a ... ovie-video

Huh, turns out they weren't really "Soviet Era War Heroes", as they we portrayed during this musical performance on Russia One, the state news channel today.
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So, it's not just Russia's apologists that suck at history. It's far more systemic and widespread.



Weird, that they chose to appropriate American photos to create their Victory Day billboards. I guess it would have just been too honest to have used this photo of the Soviet Generals saluting the Nazi flag in 1939.