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Even Steven wrote: May 15th, 2022, 11:39 am
seewood wrote: May 15th, 2022, 7:15 am ^^^ what are you getting at?? The Russian invasion of a sovereign country is justified ...
I would not say that simply because I don't think Russia needs to justify their actions to anybody.

because some soldiers have a spider web or jolly roger insignia on their uniforms?
"Spider web" lol.

That's literally Neo Nazi insignia. You feel like you need to defend Neo Nazis - that's on you :biggrin:
Another fool buying the BS Putin is selling.
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GordonH wrote: May 15th, 2022, 12:02 pm Another fool buying the BS Putin is selling.
Excuse, me - did Putin put the Nazi insignia on this Ukrainian soldier? Is this really Putin's BS, or do they wear it proudly and openly because it reflects their views?

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Did Putin make the president of Ukraine post a picture of his own soldier wearing another piece of Nazi insignia?

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LOL, your answer to all criticism of Ukraine is - "Oh, that's Putin's BS". Yes, Putin himself runs around and puts Nazi insignia on Ukraine armed forces [icon_lol2.gif] :up:

He's a busy little beaver because Nazi insignia is widespread in the Ukrainian army.
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Yep, hard to deny there are Nazis in Ukraine.
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Like real Nazis, that commit war crimes and work for a fascist dictator...
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... and there's also some folks fighting for democracy wearing symbols that could be associated with far right ideology. The difference is they aren't supporting a fascist dictator, like these guys...

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I could do this all day, but you get the point - I hope?

Fascists and the largest neo-nazi movement on the planet, by far,... could easily denazify Ukraine by simply going back across the border to Russia, where that type of thing seems to be tolerated by the current dictator and allowed to operate by the carefully controlled propaganda networks that support him.

This guy runs the Russian space agency and is on twitter threatening Musk...

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I've said it before, if Putin is really looking for Nazis, he doesn't have to look that far...

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Well, at least you're not claiming pictures I posted are "illusion " so that's progress :up:
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Even Steven wrote: May 15th, 2022, 2:28 pm Well, at least you're not claiming pictures I posted are "illusion " so that's progress :up:
I never did.

I "claimed" the picture you posted was being circulated by a well known Russian propagandist as if it were posted by President Zelenskyy. Something you couldn't argue, so you changed your argument to make it seem like I was denying the picture existed.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - whatever floats your boat.

Great way to deflect away from the fact there's plenty of Nazis supporting the fascist dictator in Russia.

Including Alexey Milchakov, the puppy eater, turned rose petaling - ear removing nazi, with the 76th Airborne division of the Russian Army.

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Have a great day Even Steven!
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 15th, 2022, 2:35 pmSomething you couldn't argue...
The screenshot of the picture posted by President Zelensky along with the screenshot of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence was included, argue that these are "illusions" all you want. :up:

And as far as plenty of pictures Russian National Union, that organization while fairly active in the '90s, has been banned, leaders were prosecuted, and now dissolved - so way to compare it [icon_lol2.gif]

Yes, Nazis (and neo-Nazis) exist everywhere. Heck, some of them might be in the armed forces, so let's compare.

President of the country posts pictures of his soldiers with Nazi insignia: Ukraine - yes, Russia - no.
Ministry of Defence posts pictures of their soldiers with Nazi insignia: Ukraine - yes, Russia - no.
Neo-Nazis are an official part of Armed forces with Nazi flags, and Nazi insignia: Ukraine - yes, Russia - no.
Neo-Nazi movements are illegal: Russia - yes, Ukraine - no.
Neo-Nazis are being armed and funded by the government: Ukraine - yes, Russia - no.

Thanks for coming out and defending Nazi once again, I know you love them :up:
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Oh look, Latvian volunteers helping Ukraine.

I guess birds of the feather flock together [icon_lol2.gif]

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Even Steven wrote: May 15th, 2022, 2:54 pm And as far as plenty of pictures Russian National Union, that organization while fairly active in the '90s, has been banned, leaders were prosecuted, and now dissolved - so way to compare it
Once again you are mistaken, but feel free to come back with some inane point and get that last word you so desperately need.

The photos I included above were of the Russian National Unity party and no, the leaders haven't all been prosecuted. Matter of fact, that's Dmitry Rogozin standing in front of flag in one of the pictures above. Want to see the photos of him doing the nazi salute? Other's have gone on to join the Russian Orthodox Army and still others are directly linked to the Russian insurgency in the Dunbas region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity

Nothing to see here:

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Just the flag of the Russian far right terrorist group the Russian Imperial Movement. [icon_lol2.gif] Russia has so many far right Christo-fascist Nazis they can't even contain them in one group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Imperial_Movement
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Nothing to see here:

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Just Dmitry Rogozin doing a nazi salute while holding a sign reading "белые люди мира объединяйтесь".

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Drip_Torch wrote: May 15th, 2022, 6:14 pm Nothing to see here:

LOL black and white pictures.

How about something from this century!? [icon_lol2.gif] :smt045
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 15th, 2022, 5:47 pm The photos I included above were of the Russian National Unity party and no, the leaders haven't all been prosecuted.
Banned, illegal, defunct.


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I like how I post pictures of what's happening right now, and you post pictures from previous century taken with a potato :135:

Once again - Nazi movements are everywhere. The difference between Russia and Ukraine is that Russia bans them, and Ukraine arms them, funds them, makes them part of their armed forces (officially!), promotes them on every single level including by their president :200: [icon_lol2.gif]
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Russia bans them and they move onto the next party, and of course, the Russian Orthodox Church is a very strong foundational movement; the tie that binds the shifting sands of the far-right wing, ultra-nationalist movements in Russia. In the case of RNU (and about thirty other loosely affiliated far-right neo-nazi movements) they found a new home under the Rodina banner.

Started by none other than Dmitry Rogozin.

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Here's the puppy eating, ear collector - Alexey Milchakov, (and whoopsie, I accidently posted a very small photo of him collecting an ear on the other page) with Sergey Aksyonov, the politician Putin appointed as the head of the Russian occupied Republic of Crimea. Oh hey, and what do you know? Sergey, (aka organized crimester "Goblin"), was a member of Russian Unity, as a politician.

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Tell me again how Russia doesn't promote far right wing neo-nazis?

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Even Steven wrote: May 15th, 2022, 6:20 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: May 15th, 2022, 6:14 pm Nothing to see here:
LOL black and white pictures.

How about something from this century!? [icon_lol2.gif] :smt045
If he was a Nazi in his younger years, how did he rise so high in Russian politics?
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Oh looky here, I found Pavel Gubarev, the Russian backed "People's Governor" of the Donetsk Region.
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Front row, first from the left. Another Nazi in Ukraine, courtesy of Putin. [icon_lol2.gif]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Gubarev
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Silverstarqueen wrote: May 15th, 2022, 7:44 pm If he was a Nazi in his younger years, how did he rise so high in Russian politics?
I'm not even sure if it's him, the potato black and white camera and taking Drip Torch's word for it leave a whole lot of chances it's all made-up but hey, anything is possible.... [icon_lol2.gif] :200:

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