Ukraine war/President/news

[Drip_Torch]

The Kerch bridge was a 'truck bomb'?
Truck bomb blast also set oil tanker ablaze. If that's what it was.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-sa ... ming-kyiv/

Moscow says 3 killed in blast that set ablaze oil tankers transported by train, collapsing 2 car lanes on vital military-supplies link to Russian troops in Ukraine.

Do you mind if I add a few more question marks? A truck bomb? I downloaded all those videos in their HD glory, and I'm not convinced. The other thing is the fact that if it was a truck bomb, it was a truck bomb coming from Russia. In the video, it really looks like the truck in question is too far along the bridge to cause the damage it caused. The other thing is some action in the water that doesn't make any sense right before the explosion.

We know from Russian statements that it would be impossible to attack the Kerch Bridge, because there are 20 different modes of protection covering it, including military dolphins and satellite surveillance.



The other interesting observation: a truck explosion with enough lateral force to knock the road span sideways, but apparently not enough force to significantly damage the guard rails on the side of the bridge.





Hats offs to the engineer that designed the guard rails.

Myself, I doubt we'll ever really know what happened there, because I suspect the blast was designed to bruise an ego more than anything else.

[PoplarSoul]

What would the US do if a terrorist group truck-bombed a vital bridge inside the US?

What if war criminal Vladimir Putin didn't violate the Budapest Memorandum?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin didn't illegally invade Ukraine?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin wasn't the President of Russia?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, wasn't a dictator?
So many ifs.
Both Russian citizens and their Ukrainian brothers and sisters would be home enjoying their lives instead of walking, driving and crossing the borders fleeing from war criminal Vladimir Putin.

[Drip_Torch]

What would the US do if a terrorist group truck-bombed a vital bridge inside the US?

What if war criminal Vladimir Putin didn't violate the Budapest Memorandum?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin didn't illegally invade Ukraine?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin wasn't the President of Russia?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, wasn't a dictator?
So many ifs.
Both Russian citizens and their Ukrainian brothers and sisters would be home enjoying their lives instead of walking, driving and crossing the borders fleeing from war criminal Vladimir Putin.

Could you imagine...

[Tyrian-Quill]

What if war criminal Vladimir Putin didn't violate the Budapest Memorandum?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin didn't illegally invade Ukraine?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin wasn't the President of Russia?
What if war criminal Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, wasn't a dictator?
So many ifs.
Both Russian citizens and their Ukrainian brothers and sisters would be home enjoying their lives instead of walking, driving and crossing the borders fleeing from war criminal Vladimir Putin.

Could you imagine...

Thank you - a beautiful presentation. What was and is no more, can, and with time (I suspect) will be built anew. The persistence of the force of life and living, is truly awesome.

[gertlush]

The only measured responses here are coming from the Russkies. They are methodically moving ahead with referendums, mobilization, setting the stage. Holding on the battlefield, giving the Ukrainians as good as they get plus more.

Ukraine is going to get squashed, look past the noise.

Or , the US will go 1 step too far and provoke a nuclear response.

Who would want to live in a world where the US is not #1 anyway?

[Jlabute]

The Kerch bridge was a 'truck bomb'?
Truck bomb blast also set oil tanker ablaze. If that's what it was.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-sa ... ming-kyiv/

Do you mind if I add a few more question marks? A truck bomb? I downloaded all those videos in their HD glory, and I'm not convinced. The other thing is the fact that if it was a truck bomb, it was a truck bomb coming from Russia. In the video, it really looks like the truck in question is too far along the bridge to cause the damage it caused. The other thing is some action in the water that doesn't make any sense right before the explosion.

We know from Russian statements that it would be impossible to attack the Kerch Bridge, because there are 20 different modes of protection covering it, including military dolphins and satellite surveillance.

The other interesting observation: a truck explosion with enough lateral force to knock the road span sideways, but apparently not enough force to significantly damage the guard rails on the side of the bridge.

Hats offs to the engineer that designed the guard rails.

Myself, I doubt we'll ever really know what happened there, because I suspect the blast was designed to bruise an ego more than anything else.

Considering HIMARS had not accomplished as much, since it requires a significant amount of explosives to do so much damage, deliverable by boat or truck.

Supporting columns under the bridge do not seem as scorched as the pavement above and the well-built guide rails. There are not many options for what it can be, and the position of the truck is quite coincidental in the explosion. There is always lateral force from a point source, and down force but is the road platform on a sort of support pivot? Hard to tell. It was also timed quite well in the presence of a train fuel cars. A truck is probably more likely than other options.

[BC Landlord]

Now, after the pipelines, the Crimea bridge was blown up as well ... Cool!
So, ... from now on, major infrastructure is a fair game. We haven't seen those strategic/carpet bombers in the skies yet, but I guess that is going to change fast.

[Babba_not_Gump]

If Putin suspects he'll lose Crimea along with having the rest of his little war going south on him, if he is going to use nukes it wouldn't surprise me if he hits Crimea.

"If I can't have Crimea, you can't either."

[BC Landlord]

If Putin suspects he'll lose Crimea along with having the rest of his little war going south on him, if he is going to use nukes it wouldn't surprise me if he hits Crimea.

"If I can't have Crimea, you can't either."

Crimea is already Russian, and it's not going back to Ukraine, because the population doesn't want it (predominantly Russian). The same applies to newly annexed eastern regions.
There won't be any nukes flying, but after these infrastructure attacks, the bombing campaign might get into a high gear. Nothing is off limits now. Odessa harbor? Dnieper waterways? Major highways, power plants, ... ?

[GordonH]

If Putin suspects he'll lose Crimea along with having the rest of his little war going south on him, if he is going to use nukes it wouldn't surprise me if he hits Crimea.

"If I can't have Crimea, you can't either."

Crimea is already Russian, and it's not going back to Ukraine, because the population doesn't want it (predominantly Russian). The same applies to newly annexed eastern regions.
There won't be any nukes flying, but after these infrastructure attacks, the bombing campaign might get into a high gear. Nothing is off limits now. Odessa harbor? Dnieper waterways? Major highways, power plants, ... ?

Between the Tsar’s and communist party (under ussr) they have occupied Ukraine for at lest a couple centuries. So of course there are Russian living within Ukraine’s borders, just as their are Ukrainians living within Russia’s border.

Back in breakup of Soviet Union everyone involved agreed with the drawing up of borders of each country. So I guess if Putin doesn’t like agreement made between Tsar’s of old and US on Alaska, he will want that back as well.

added later: knowing how many millions of Ukrainians Joseph Stalin murdered, Ukrainians have a good reason not wanting another Russian politician fiddling in their country.

[PoplarSoul]

There won't be any nukes flying, but after these infrastructure attacks, the bombing campaign might get into a high gear. Nothing is off limits now.

Nothing ever was off limits.
Hospitals, maternity wards, daycare centers, schools, universities, nothing is off limits with war criminal Vladimir Putin.

[65deluxe]

There won't be any nukes flying, but after these infrastructure attacks, the bombing campaign might get into a high gear. Nothing is off limits now.

Nothing ever was off limits.
Hospitals, maternity wards, daycare centers, schools, universities, nothing is off limits with war criminal Vladimir Putin.

No need to single out Russia for your "nothing ever was off limits" comment. A look at history will show you near every country is guilty. I think they like to refer to it as collateral damage, or accidents. P.S, In no way do I support Russia. Personally I think we should all pull out and let these two (most corrupt countries on the planet) have at it. We have issues here at home that need to be taken care of.

[PoplarSoul]

Nothing ever was off limits.
Hospitals, maternity wards, daycare centers, schools, universities, nothing is off limits with war criminal Vladimir Putin.

No need to single out Russia for your "nothing ever was off limits" comment. A look at history will show you near every country is guilty. I think they like to refer to it as collateral damage, or accidents. P.S, In no way do I support Russia. Personally I think we should all pull out and let these two (most corrupt countries on the planet) have at it. We have issues here at home that need to be taken care of.

No need to defend war criminal Vladimir Putin in a thread about the despot illegally invading Ukraine.

[Drip_Torch]

Do you mind if I add a few more question marks? A truck bomb? I downloaded all those videos in their HD glory, and I'm not convinced. The other thing is the fact that if it was a truck bomb, it was a truck bomb coming from Russia. In the video, it really looks like the truck in question is too far along the bridge to cause the damage it caused. The other thing is some action in the water that doesn't make any sense right before the explosion.

We know from Russian statements that it would be impossible to attack the Kerch Bridge, because there are 20 different modes of protection covering it, including military dolphins and satellite surveillance.

The other interesting observation: a truck explosion with enough lateral force to knock the road span sideways, but apparently not enough force to significantly damage the guard rails on the side of the bridge.

Hats offs to the engineer that designed the guard rails.

Myself, I doubt we'll ever really know what happened there, because I suspect the blast was designed to bruise an ego more than anything else.

Considering HIMARS had not accomplished as much, since it requires a significant amount of explosives to do so much damage, deliverable by boat or truck.

Supporting columns under the bridge do not seem as scorched as the pavement above and the well-built guide rails. There are not many options for what it can be, and the position of the truck is quite coincidental in the explosion. There is always lateral force from a point source, and down force but is the road platform on a sort of support pivot? Hard to tell. It was also timed quite well in the presence of a train fuel cars. A truck is probably more likely than other options.

Yeah, that's no HIMARS strike. Beyond range and far more powerful.

I'm no expert, my FX experience is limited to lifting cars and trucks, but I don't see that being a rebound effect off of a road-based explosion. I'm sure experts will weigh in during the days that follow. Myself, I see a light going across the road that doesn't make any sense and a wave, or wake washing under the bridge in the milliseconds that proceed the blast. Yep, those guard rails are sure well-built, and the timing couldn't have been better. Perhaps a fluke?

I don't see scorched columns either, but I don't see scorched anything, other than the rail track that was burning for hours. Water doesn't compress, at all, ever. Apply a force to a sealed column of water at the top and you'll read that same force at the bottom. (I know this because I built a thing, that does stuff, and it basically relies on that principle. - excuse my prevaricating.) I'm leaning towards a shallow water blast that was at least as precise as the position of the train cars.

As for options, there are a few. All of them lend themselves to the idea that Putin just got showed someone carries a bigger stick than he does. Whether that stick was wielded from Russia, in the direction the truck was traveling from, or the West, remains to be seen. But I doubt we'll ever know.

Personally, I'm watching for a humbled Putin and a toned-down propaganda response to this incident.
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Imagine that? You assault someone and get smoked?

Russian Media Monitor - - -> https://twitter.com/i/status/1578972997129756672

[Ka-El]

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