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my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:37 pm The Cuban missle crissis was about NUCLEAR MISSILES being put in Cuba by the Soviet Union.

Did someone put MUCLEAR MISSILES in Ukraine ? NO
Check your history books there friendo.

The US illegally tried to invade Cuba before there was nukes there. The Bay of Pigs.

The US did this because Cuba tried to be a "independent country" (just like Ukraine!).

Cuba, in response, placed nuclear weapons there to repel another illegal US invasion.

That's why JFK backed off. He started it.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm
BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:21 pm Why would nowadays Russia accept something on its borders, so hostile to its security
Will Finland be invaded next?
I doubt it. Finns already learned their lesson for flirting with Nazis in WW2. That's how they lost Murmansk region to Russia (then USSR) in 1940.
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:48 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm Will Finland be invaded next?
I doubt it. Finns already learned their lesson for flirting with Nazis in WW2. That's how they lost Murmansk region to Russia (then USSR) in 1940.
Why can Finland join NATO, but Ukraine can't?
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my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:37 pm
BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 4:53 pm Did Soviets invade a NATO member in 1962? And what was the US response?
??? DID SOVIETS INVADE A NATO MEMBER IN 1962 ? NO
That was exactly my point. Soviets back then did NOT invade a NATO member to provoke such a reaction from the US. They just wanted to turn Cuba into a Warsaw Pact member, a stone-throw from the American soil. Exactly what Ukraine is aspiring nowadays.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:56 pm Why can Finland join NATO, but Ukraine can't?
Who says they can? They are not NATO.
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Ukraine Russia war NEWS!

If you're too stupid to understand what that means, maybe you're too stupid to be sharing your opinions in a public space.

Just saying...

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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 7:09 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:56 pm Why can Finland join NATO, but Ukraine can't?
Who says they can? They are not NATO.
Ukraine talked about joining NATO, they are illegally invaded.
Finland applied for NATO membership, nothing from the despot.
How come?
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Drip_Torch wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 7:13 pm Ukraine Russia war NEWS!

If you're too stupid to understand what that means, maybe you're too stupid to be sharing your opinions in a public space.

Just saying...
Perhaps some (less cognitive) need to be reminded of lessons from the history, relative to the present conflict.

Just saying ...
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 7:16 pm Finland applied for NATO membership, nothing from the despot.
How come?
I suppose, actions (as on display in Ukraine) speak better than words. The "despot", as you put it, may not be our favorite figure, but we've got to give him a credit for being very pragmatic.
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Another take, on who is responsible for blowing up the bridge.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/pu ... 45b8f62f03
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Aiming at civilians.
Very pragmatic or a war criminal?
Ukraine's day of missile strikes in a minute
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63208576
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Poland tells its citizens to flee Belarus NOW and carries out checks on its bomb shelters after Lukashenko announces 'joint military task force' with Russia and Putin blitzes Ukraine with missiles, killing at least 11
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... raine.html
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 7:56 pm Aiming at civilians.
Very pragmatic or a war criminal?
Ukraine's day of missile strikes in a minute
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63208576
I think it boils down to one thing, Russian soldiers are no match for Ukraine soldiers, but they are a match for Ukraine civilians.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 7:38 pm Another take, on who is responsible for blowing up the bridge.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/pu ... 45b8f62f03
But the fact that the truck which exploded on the bridge was driven from southern Russia could suggest a possibility that anti-Putin demonstrators could have orchestrated an attack.
Yes, .. a bunch of anti-Putin demonstrators have truck-loads of high explosives on hand and expertise in handling them. "*bleep*-riot" chicks, maybe? [icon_lol2.gif]
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 8:28 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 7:38 pm Another take, on who is responsible for blowing up the bridge.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/pu ... 45b8f62f03
But the fact that the truck which exploded on the bridge was driven from southern Russia could suggest a possibility that anti-Putin demonstrators could have orchestrated an attack.
Yes, .. a bunch of anti-Putin demonstrators have truck-loads of high explosives on hand and expertise in handling them. "*bleep*-riot" chicks, maybe? [icon_lol2.gif]
Nah, much more likely, given everything we've seen so far, Putin's security services and the general protection effort around the bridge, (second only to the Kremlin) is ineffective and incompetent.

Ukrainian special forces operators were likely able to build a 2-ton bomb, load it onto a truck and smuggle it into Russia undetected. Then they passed it off to some unsuspecting Russian dupe, to have him drive it past all the ineffective bomb sniffing equipment and incompetent military personnel that did the physical search.

On this much we agree. Putin is pathetic and all of Russia is vulnerable as long as he is the leader.
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