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- Admiral HMS Castanet
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Republicans have also supported helping ukraine against Russian forces.
Poll:" from the Chicago Council on Global Affairs found that most Americans still support aiding Ukraine – 65% support sending weapons, 66% support economic aid, 75% support increasing sanctions on Russia, and 73% support accepting Ukrainian refugees to the US."
Is anyone "pro war"? Of course not, Putin has left ukraine with no choice: No country or fight. Will he massacre every last ukrainian if he can to get Ukraine, and thousands of his own troops? sure, why not?
This isn't a left-right thing. Either you are in favor of allowing a greater power to invade and bomb a peaceful country, or you are not.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Ukraine can do whatever they want - they just can't point their guns at Russia. Ukraine can turn their entire country into a LGBT theme park and only produce cotton candy as a national export product - they just can't let the US park their weapons there and let the US put their weapons right on the Russian border.Silverstarqueen wrote: ↑Dec 27th, 2022, 8:05 am Is anyone "pro war"? Of course not, Putin has left ukraine with no choice: No country or fight.
Ukraine can do 100000000000000 different things with their country.
Russia says they can't do one thing - stockpile weapons to take over Russia.
Your neighbour has no building codes, no noise laws, no limitations. The only rule is "Don't try and kill your neighbour".
Seems fairly reasonable.
You are PRO WAR if you support NATO expansionism.
The cat is already out of the bag though, the US wants Russian regime change, total world domination, which was always the objective and is the reason Russia invaded in the first place. Russia was correct to invade because as the US has shown the intention was always to attack/hurt/drawn down Russia in a long-play regime change tactic.
Ukraine's stated goals are "the compete defeat of Russia's military and Putin to stand trial for war crimes". Not sure how Ukraine and the US are going to get Russia to hand over their nuclear weapons without Russia first using them...but if you "support Ukraine" then that is what you support - nuclear war and US world domination by force.
A few weeks ago Ukraine fired missiles into Poland and tried to trick the US into starting World War 3
Short memories.
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Lol its worth it to kick putin to hell . Only a fool or clown would be against thatMazdatruck wrote: ↑Dec 26th, 2022, 4:52 pmThe US poured 100+billion dollars into Ukraine while half the US is on food stamps.
The entire military budget for Russia is 65 billion / year.
Ukraine has nothing to do with this fight. They are puppets.
In the US kids will go hungry and California is a 3rd world country, but in Ukraine the Neo Nazi's have modern NATO weapons!
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Real men do not need to idle their cars in minus weather . I call them men that do wimps .
Real men do not need to idle their cars in minus weather . I call them men that do wimps .
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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I'll bet if you ask the average Canadian what their priorities are, "Kicking putin to hell" wouldn't even make the top 10 list.captkirkcanada wrote: ↑Dec 27th, 2022, 9:20 am Lol its worth it to kick putin to hell . Only a fool or clown would be against that
This is a game for politicians and rich people.
The average Canadian and American do not care.
That's why the Government spends so much time and money on Ukraine propaganda and social media censorship. Massive bot armies, total blanket censorship and social media control - pushing world war 3 and posting gay slur Putin jokes. How progressive!
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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The problem in a nutshell - Ukraine is losing, badly. What are you talking about?Rjamer wrote: ↑Dec 26th, 2022, 4:31 pm Putin says he is ready to "negotiate with everyone involved" regarding Ukraine ... https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ru ... 2ef3ae104e .... Pretty funny how this disgusting little cowardly war criminal wants to negotiate now after the Ukraine has kicked his incompetent .. Maybe he is getting advice from his orange stooge ..
Orange stooge? Uhhhhhhh.... you know Hillary faked all that right? *bleep* me, even the NYT and Guardian admit that.
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- Admiral HMS Castanet
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One of Putin's friends "fell out of a window and died" in India. How's that for censorship?Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Dec 27th, 2022, 10:30 amI'll bet if you ask the average Canadian what their priorities are, "Kicking putin to hell" wouldn't even make the top 10 list.captkirkcanada wrote: ↑Dec 27th, 2022, 9:20 am Lol its worth it to kick putin to hell . Only a fool or clown would be against that
This is a game for politicians and rich people.
The average Canadian and American do not care.
That's why the Government spends so much time and money on Ukraine propaganda and social media censorship. Massive bot armies, total blanket censorship and social media control - pushing world war 3 and posting gay slur Putin jokes. How progressive!
"In June, Antov criticized the war and Moscow’s air strikes on Kyiv, making special mention of a child who was pulled from under the rubble of where a missile hit.
“To tell the truth, it is extremely difficult to call this anything other than terror,” he said at the time.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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The message was later pulled and he said it was a misunderstanding...
Ummm... how come it can't be Western special agents knocking these people off? SAS attacked the Crimea bridge, US blew up Nordstream.. we are nasty folks too ya know.
Ummm... how come it can't be Western special agents knocking these people off? SAS attacked the Crimea bridge, US blew up Nordstream.. we are nasty folks too ya know.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Also... why not do the deed in Russia? Why embarass your ally, India, by killing somebody there? Doesn't make sense.
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“We see these beautiful pictures of missiles raining down on Russian troops and it is a BEAUTIFUL SIGHT.
the images tempted me to quote the late singer/songwriter Leonard Cohen. “I am guided by the beauty of our weapons,”
“They are beautiful pictures of fearsome armaments making a brief flight over the killing fields of Ukraine.”
actual beautiful weapon pictures from the war.
I'm glad I helped pay for that five minutes of blowing stuff up. So far our leaders threw away 4,000,000 brand new Ford F150s in this war, and we're just beginning. I'm glad we could 'step up' as Trudeau says.
remember him?
the images tempted me to quote the late singer/songwriter Leonard Cohen. “I am guided by the beauty of our weapons,”
“They are beautiful pictures of fearsome armaments making a brief flight over the killing fields of Ukraine.”
actual beautiful weapon pictures from the war.
I'm glad I helped pay for that five minutes of blowing stuff up. So far our leaders threw away 4,000,000 brand new Ford F150s in this war, and we're just beginning. I'm glad we could 'step up' as Trudeau says.
remember him?
WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????
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Even more beautiful than seeing missiles rain down on the gangster imperialists is the fact that young Russians are waking up and saying what desperately needs to be said.
I hope to see far more of this in the new year. ---> https://twitter.com/i/status/1607486576489304065
I can't imagine how thankful thinktank must be to be living in Canada. Here he is free to express his dissent and conjure up all the rage he can against the gov't.
In Moscow, he'd be looking at a fine, the equivalent of 7 months of pension and he'd be lucky if he could pay it and avoid jail, because the banks have quietly closed to cool down the bank run happening. Of course, that's the best case. The more extreme cases are dealt with in an extra judicial manner involving some tape, your head and a cinder block.
The sign --- "I love my Dad."
The fine --- 30,000 rubles.
The Soviet Union is back! 20,000 rubles will get you $100 Usd on the streets and that $100 Usd will buy you some levis. Just like in the good ole days.
But first, the line up to try and get that 20,000 out of the bank.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1607369751663198208
https://twitter.com/i/status/1608023933839867908
I hope to see far more of this in the new year. ---> https://twitter.com/i/status/1607486576489304065
I can't imagine how thankful thinktank must be to be living in Canada. Here he is free to express his dissent and conjure up all the rage he can against the gov't.
In Moscow, he'd be looking at a fine, the equivalent of 7 months of pension and he'd be lucky if he could pay it and avoid jail, because the banks have quietly closed to cool down the bank run happening. Of course, that's the best case. The more extreme cases are dealt with in an extra judicial manner involving some tape, your head and a cinder block.
The sign --- "I love my Dad."
The fine --- 30,000 rubles.
The Soviet Union is back! 20,000 rubles will get you $100 Usd on the streets and that $100 Usd will buy you some levis. Just like in the good ole days.
But first, the line up to try and get that 20,000 out of the bank.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1607369751663198208
https://twitter.com/i/status/1608023933839867908
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Take a good look at the beautiful guy below. He's doing his job perfectly. His goal is always more military spending, whether it's Iraq or Ukraine.Drip_Torch wrote: ↑Dec 28th, 2022, 9:40 am ...how thankful thinktank must be ... to express his dissent and conjure up all the rage he can against the gov't.
USA and Canada already flushed $100 billion down the Ukraine drain, but calm down Thinktank, don't make any rage.
Calm down Thinktank - don't make any rage. This war will go on for years, but don't show rage.The Kagans Are Back; Wars to Follow (written in 2017)
As I noted two years ago in an article entitled “A Family Business of Perpetual War”: “Neoconservative pundit Robert Kagan and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, run a remarkable family business: she has sparked a hot war in Ukraine and helped launch Cold War II with Russia and he steps in to demand that Congress jack up military spending so America can meet these new security threats.
“This extraordinary husband-and-wife duo makes quite a one-two punch for the Military-Industrial Complex, an inside-outside team that creates the need for more military spending, ...
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/15/t ... to-follow/
He's in the war business. Victoria Nuland was successful in overthrowing Ukraine's democratically elected government, putting in her own warmonger criminals into that hell hole country, and now we're told to go croak for democracy by people like Melanie Joly, or just to pay for it all by Freeland.
WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????
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You can think what you want thinktank. Rage all you want. Call out the politicians as you see fit. Criticize those that you feel you need to criticize. You can do that because you live in Canada and Canadians will fight for your freedom. My point was/is, no one is going to club you like a baby seal for doing so - and even on the off chance someone does club you like a baby seal, it won't be sanctioned by the gov't.
I highly doubt this war will go on for years. I suspect it will need to be wrapped up within the next 9 months.
Business? Business? Where's the business? Dude is a foreign policy geek and a conservative. His wife is an Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. How does that somehow become a business?Thinktank wrote: ↑Dec 28th, 2022, 2:45 pm
He's in the war business. Victoria Nuland was successful in overthrowing Ukraine's democratically elected government, putting in her own warmonger criminals into that hell hole country, and now we're told to go croak for democracy by people like Melanie Joly, or just to pay for it all by Freeland.
Do they reek of ill gotten gains?
Here, I'll give you an example of what that might look like. Meet Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov. He makes about $128,000/ year. (possibly much less now with the Ruble diving, but that's something entirely different)
Here's a picture of him at the deputy defense Ministers wife's birthday party.
Notice how the other guy is pulling down his shirt sleeve? That's because Peskov is wearing an $85,000 watch and that gets kind of embarrassing and he's been caught at it before. Back in 2015, when Peskov married Tatiana Navka, he was all the talk of the town, sporting his Richard Mille watch worth over $525,000.
Everyone, literally everyone, in the Russian Gov't is really good at saving. Not only that, but their wives, mistresses and children are good at saving too.
Do you have any pictures of Victoria Nuland wearing half a million dollars under her shirt sleeve?
Here's a small video titled "War and Feast". It's about Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov and the his wife the Birthday Girl.
Now that's doing the war business right!
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Terrible those Russkies eh? Just imagine if Putin had an idiot son, i dunno, called Zunter.. who somehow always fell *bleep* backwards into money
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I guess the alternate reality created by fox doesn't mention Putin's daughters? Maria and Katerina are both on the sanctions lists... "enriched themselves at the expense of the Russian people", blah, blah...
Katerina studied Asian Studies and Maria studied biology.
Katerina became an accomplished dancer, and when she's not dancing she's putting her Asian Studies to good work as biotechnology expert. She is 37 years old, I believe, and has a net worth in the billions.
Dancers are very good at saving money.
There are rumored to be other daughters, a cleaning lady that lives in the richest neighborhood of Moscow with her daughter of an unknown father, literally named "Vladimir's daughter".
But, no leaked dick pics, so I guess these kids, that have fallen backwards into billions can simply fly below your radar.
Good grief, even Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu's mistress, and her husband, are well on their way to becoming billionaires since they took over the contract to maintain Russian Military establishments. It's a twisted tale, I'll have to look into whether or not they've been the subject of one of Navalny's investigative videos. If they have done one on the triangle, it will be worth the view just for the giggles.
Russia is crime syndicate with a constitution. Nothing more and soon to be much less.
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