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^^^^
And after corruptly draining Russia, Pootin has his eyes set on Ukraine.
The Russian brand of corruption went along swimingly after Ukraine became independent of Russia in 1991.
Thing is, when the citizens of Ukraine got tired of it, a comedian was elected and wanted to take Ukraine to the west.
Part of the move to the west (EU)included sorting out the corruption in Ukraine. The move or admission into NATO was talked about but again corruption and the geopolitics had to be sorted out first.
pootin, is very concerned that he sees Ukraine and its corruptible riches slipping away.
Well, lets just invade and install a puppet government and pillage, what could go wrong?

kinda see what the result of a country that does not want to go down the road of Russian corruption. People, many people are getting killed, military and civilians. Not to mention billions being spent on both sides.
Such a shame, Russia should just mind their own business as no country has any intentions of invading them.
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seewood wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 7:26 am Russia should just mind their own business as no country has any intentions of invading them.
How do we know this?

Back when Cuba was in Ukraine's position, and the shoe was on the other foot, we weren't so quick to "know" there was no intention to invade.
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seewood wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 7:26 am Part of the move to the west (EU)included sorting out the corruption in Ukraine.
HOW TO SORT OUT CORRUPTION IN UKRAINE

Step #1 - install the Presidents crackhead son who has zero experience on a Ukrainian Energy company board where he will receive around 10+ million dollars.

Step #2 - When the crackhead gets too high and forgets his laptop in a repair shop, get the CIA and FBI to create a giant disinformation campaign to cover it up and save a US Presidential election.

Step #3 - pour 100+ billion dollars into a country with no receipts or accountability or oversight. Some groups that revieve modern NATO weapons are literal Nazi's.
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seewood wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 7:26 am Part of the move to the west (EU)included sorting out the corruption in Ukraine.
by 'sorting out' do you mean the underwear guitar player visits Kolomoisky - the $5 billion dollar crook - at his home
in Switzerland (while poor Ukrainians are not even allowed to go to Switzerland) - SEVERAL TIMES?

Breaking News: We now know why. We all knew what was happening in Ukraine but now we know why.
- not because Putin is a madman. or insane.
- not because Russia wanted to grab land.

We know the war was started in Ukraine by us so Putin could be 'taken out.'

Watch the latest Kim Iverson video. "TAKE PUTIN OUT" - Lindsay Graham Calls for Overthrow of Putin
WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????

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Thinktank wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 9:14 am We know the war was started in Ukraine by
putin, and now has shown his army is not what he hoped it was and the mothers of dead fighters are not happy at all. Watch your little crazy conspiracy vid's all you want, they are still mostly made up.

Lindsay Graham was on all the news saying that he was not happy with putin and wanted him taken out.
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:up:
Great News Everyone - our warmongers say we're defeating Russia at little cost. Our warmongers think dead Ukrainians are not of any value. You can see by the big smiles of Freeland, Trudeau and Joly, they love this war and think it's a good bargain. We pay others to give their life, and defeat Russia. Wouldn't that qualify for a ticket to hell when they die?

The Center for European Policy Analysis has to be - after Fauci and Walensky and the CDC, the most repulsive thing on the planet.

It’s Costing Peanuts for the US to Defeat Russia

Yet from numerous perspectives, when viewed from a bang-per-buck perspective, US and Western support for Ukraine is an incredibly cost-effective investmenIn cold, geopolitical terms, this war provides a prime opportunity for the US to erode and degrade Russia’s conventional defense capability, with no boots on the ground and little risk to US lives.  

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Photo: Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III and Ukrainian Minister of Defense Oleksii Reznikov at the sixth meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group at NATO headquarters, Brussels, Belgium,


Now we know who started, paid for, and wants this war to continue. Us.

https://cepa.org/article/its-costing-pe ... at-russia/
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Some say potato, some say pOtato

Some say Russian defeat, others say catastrophic humiliation of American empire and destruction of puppet state. Weird, never thought $100 billion was peanuts.
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Thinktank wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 11:10 am warmongers think dead Ukrainians are not of any value.
The warmongers who think this are the russians. After they were stopped by the Ukrainians they showed that have no respect and continue with their war crimes. Some day soon putin will not be able to leave Russia.
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New York Times can't even pretend anymore.

Obviously the US blew up the pipeline. US committed the biggest act of international terrorism since 9/11 and created the worst man-made environmental disaster in history.

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Yep, this was worth digging up. I've forwarded it to the summary, in all its astounding hypocrisy and lies.

An overview of the yachts, escorts, mistresses, secret families and most of all, LoVE and LuST for everything the west has to offer.

Enjoy a few minutes of this one: https://youtu.be/xNa5XknuXkQ?t=1782

Traditional Russian values are something the Czar exploits while he sends the serfs into the meat grinder to create the background and chaos needed to steal even more from the Russian people.

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Booorrriinnnggg :topic:
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Sure, maybe don't deflect away to points you can't defend in the future.

Now back to some news.

Late yesterday afternoon, Russian forces successfully destroyed...*checks notes* ... a Russian Ka-52 helicopter.
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https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1608679426275049475

This is consistent with an assessment of the air defense situation published by Rybar today. My bold added, so that you can ignore it easier.
The appearance of a large stock of HIMARS missiles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the possibility of a massive launch led to a situation where Russian air defense systems simply consumed all the ammunition and remained unarmed. The problem has already been partially solved by sending the first Pantsir-SM-TBM with twice the number of missiles to the troops.

🔻Insufficient level of interaction with other branches and types of troops. Along with the non-working identification system, this has repeatedly led to "friendly fire" to the point that almost all (!) of the Su-34, Su-35S and Su-30SM aircraft lost since the spring, as well as part of the Ka-52 helicopters, are "on the account" of the Russian air defense.

🔻The lack of an automated control system (ACS) and warning in the troops, similar to the Ukrainian "Virazh-Tablet". For this reason, each battery and sometimes even the crew act autonomously from each other, without having operational data on the air situation in other areas.

🔻The inability to cover the entire rear due to the long length of the front and a huge number of settlements. The number of launchers and combat vehicles is limited, and there are incomparably more dispersed strategic facilities for civilian and military purposes.

The latter is, perhaps, the main challenge of the Russian air defense system in the near future. The latest Ukrainian attacks with modified drones in Engels demonstrated the fundamental ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to hit targets in the deep rear.

The enemy is actively creating similar "Gerani-2" drones on a foreign element base. A one-time massive launch of hundreds of such UAVs will overload the air defense and will not allow it to shoot down all the targets. The effect of the arrival of even one drone on one autotransformer will be enormous.
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Dmitry Rogozin is still recovering from his birthday party in Donbas, at a Moscow area hospital. (For those that missed it, it was a real blast) He's lost a little weight, but hospital food will do that to you.

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We haven't checked in on the TiKToK brigade in a while. Wonder what the Kadyrovites are up to lately... oh, here they are. Still in the fight. Somewhere in... *checks notes* Russian occupied Simferopol, fighting some random dude and his girlfriend outside a night club.

https://twitter.com/Sota_Vision/status/ ... 9206005760

Meanwhile, Ramzan Kadyrov appears on TV performing something that he tries to pass off as pushups.

*insert laugh track here* (and do admire the $3,000 Prada Monolith boots while you watch this video)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1608521667566882824

On the nasty rumours front, it is reported on telegram that Ramzan Kadyrov recently shot one of his (yeah, I don't think anyone knows how many) wives in the leg, after she accused him of becoming an LGBT drug addict, due to his inability to perform.

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Dude is high ---> https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1590090433061072896

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If we were to take Ramzan far more seriously than I possibly could, he did call for complete mobilization of Chechnya against fascism, Satanism and Nazism in Ukraine, adding that those who don't want to live under the LGBT banner must stand up now and help deal with it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1608491588753436672

So, in other words... just another day in kadyrovite land. https://twitter.com/i/status/1605233236002889728

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(postscript note: There are two types of people in this world. Those that saw the Ukrainian sniper's video back in late March, and those that are wondering why there's a picture of a three legged goat in this post. In hindsight, I'd prefer to fall into the later group.)
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Thank goodness I finished my coffee. :up: :up:
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 30th, 2022, 12:35 am On the nasty rumours front, it is reported on telegram that Ramzan Kadyrov recently shot one of his (yeah, I don't think anyone knows how many) wives in the leg, after she accused him of becoming an LGBT drug addict, due to his inability to perform.
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rustled wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 7:47 am How do we know this?

Back when Cuba was in Ukraine's position, and the shoe was on the other foot, we weren't so quick to "know" there was no intention to invade.
We know this because Russia has nukes for the very reason to negate any asperations of any country attempting to cross into Russia. Invading Russia in the past has proved to be a fools errand, the same applies today.

Not sure what you mean by Cuba being in Ukraine's position? Granted there was a pretty pathetic attempt to land Cuban ex-pats in the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the US placed a blockade around the island as a move to get Russia to remove their missiles off the island. They did and the US removed their missiles from Turkey as part of the deal.
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seewood wrote: Dec 30th, 2022, 8:24 am
rustled wrote: Dec 29th, 2022, 7:47 am How do we know this?

Back when Cuba was in Ukraine's position, and the shoe was on the other foot, we weren't so quick to "know" there was no intention to invade.
We know this because Russia has nukes for the very reason to negate any asperations of any country attempting to cross into Russia. Invading Russia in the past has proved to be a fools errand, the same applies today.
Those are assumptions. They may be good assumptions based on reason, but even still they are assumptions IMO - different than the certainty of what we know to be true.
seewood wrote:Not sure what you mean by Cuba being in Ukraine's position? Granted there was a pretty pathetic attempt to land Cuban ex-pats in the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the US placed a blockade around the island as a move to get Russia to remove their missiles off the island. They did and the US removed their missiles from Turkey as part of the deal.
The US responded strongly to Cuba hosting Russia's missiles, and the negotiations you've described here show Russia responded via negotiation. As I understand it, Russia responded strongly to Ukraine hosting NATO in contravention of earlier agreements, and their attempts at negotiation failed.

I'm certainly no expert, but the effort the political establishment is putting into the information campaign suggests the military campaign was their preferred objective.
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