Ukraine war/President/news

[gertlush]

Military science 101 - when you are kidnapping teenagers from the mall, things aint lookin good

[Mazdatruck]

Russia is quite handily kicking NATOs *bleep* and can do so without China.

*tears*

I believe, you actually believe that. OMG...

Here's a picture of less than 1000 of the 8000 Abrams sitting in storage while Russia is "Kicking NATO's bleep".
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Dream on, but you'll be happy to know the Russian Marines are still hard at work...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1638234317485645858

One hypersonic missile away from being a boneyard.

[Drip_Torch]

I knew this was nothing new.

Meet the Russian BM32 Vant, an armour piercing fin stabilized 125 mm discarding sabot round. (DU/Ni/Zu) It entered Russian service in 1985 and was the first mass produced Russian Depleted Uranium monoblock projectile.



A whole lot of noise about nothing. It's the Russian way.

[Drip_Torch]

OMG, you tankies have a hard time putting the puzzle pieces together.

Daddy Xi didn't travel all the way to Moscow just to eat Russian Kentucky Fried Chicken. (Although wow, his entourage sure packed away bags of it.) Nope, he went to tell the children to behave and leave their toys in the toy box. The rest of those "points" are just blah, blah, playing the role - pointless. Much like his peaceless plan that isn't worth the paper it's written on.

G-Man, next time you're talking to Mark Milley tell him Drip says "hi".

[seewood]

G-Man, next time you're talking to Mark Milley tell him Drip says "hi".

Phhhttt I have to remember while reading your post in the evening to swallow the scotch before I read your posts.

The Russian Federation and China believe that in order to solve the "Ukrainian crisis" it is necessary to prevent bloc confrontation and incitement of the conflict;

Does this mean Xi told Poo-tin to go home and leave a sovereign country alone ?

Russia and China insist that NATO strictly adhere to the defensive nature of its organization and respect foreign sovereignty;

NATO will if Russia respects foreign sovereignty. In fact NATO has respected foreign sovereignty since inception back in 1949 ( unlike Russia)

[gertlush]

Advanced Military Science - When your top general is publicly stating that your proxy has no chance of achieving its stated objectives (diplomatically of course, but thats the message) maybe take another look at the whole "as long as it takes" thing.

I agree that the US would potentially launch a nuclear war to save face. Hopefully they clear out Biden, Nuland and the rest before it gets to that

[Drip_Torch]

G-Man, next time you're talking to Mark Milley tell him Drip says "hi".

Phhhttt I have to remember while reading your post in the evening to swallow the scotch before I read your posts.

The Russian Federation and China believe that in order to solve the "Ukrainian crisis" it is necessary to prevent bloc confrontation and incitement of the conflict;

Does this mean Xi told Poo-tin to go home and leave a sovereign country alone ?

Russia and China insist that NATO strictly adhere to the defensive nature of its organization and respect foreign sovereignty;

NATO will if Russia respects foreign sovereignty. In fact NATO has respected foreign sovereignty since inception back in 1949 ( unlike Russia)

I don't think he went that far, but this is an interesting development...

Xi Jinping invited the leaders of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan in May for the "first China-Central Asia Summit" - AFP

Damn, that's cold, if you ask me. The body still has a heartbeat and Xi's already picking at the pieces.

Xi hasn't even left Moscow. *slap*

[gertlush]

So to sum up - your analysis of Xi's trip is he meant the exact opposite of all his public statements? Alrighty then...

[Drip_Torch]

Fear not. Zircon is soon to be on a ground launched system too.

"The prototype of a mobile launcher of a coastal defense missile system, using a Tsirkon hypersonic missile, has already been created. As was the case with the Bastion system, the launcher will carry two missiles,...
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One of the sources said that the new system, just like its predecessor Bastion that employs Oniks [english name Onyx P-800] missiles, will have the capacity to strike both ground-based and sea targets."

https://tass.com/defense/1532365

News...

There isn't much out of Bakhmut and hasn't been for days. About the only news is a news embargo. Still, a regular report I watch, managed to post a few seconds in place of his usual 3 minute report that he does everyday. I think he's saying something by not saying anything, but you be the judge.
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Safe to say everyone is reading Moscow's mail this morning. Not particularly unusual, but a little more active and a little further north than I've noticed in the last month.
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They are never going to get the smell of Kentucky Fried Chicken out of these two Boeing 747's heading back to Beijing this morning. Xi and crew are on their way home across the empty skies of Russia.
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One has to wonder, given the almost complete lack of anything substantial out of Xi's visit, if the whole trip wasn't to size up Mikhail Mishustin, whom he did make time to meet with yesterday.



The radio and television story playing at the top of the hour in Crimea this morning is telling people not to panic. (If I was there I'd probably take this as a sign it's approaching time to panic.) There was an attack on Sevastopol. Not a whole lot of details, but a couple very heavy explosions and it's reported they were hit by both aerial and marine drones. Again, nothing particularly new about this, careless smokers have been causing havoc in Crimea for days now. Yesterday it was the rail connection in Dzhankoy and a freight train carrying Kalibr cruise missiles.

[gertlush]

Interesting article in The Atlantic today, "Ron DeSantis is right about Ukraine", gives a good rundown of the backstory, and stupidity and recklessness of the Biden/Nuland policy.

There is at least a strong contrarian current gathering strentgh in the US. That plus continued Russian battlefield dominance should bring this to a close by summer/fall.

Did you see Zs visit to Bakhmut? Im sorry, seeing a bunch of shell shocked senior citizens with glazed eyes doesn't bode well for Ukraine.

[Drip_Torch]

Who doesn't love a good list? The top five Russian disinformation narratives...

Theme #1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”

Russian government officials falsely portray Russia as a perpetual victim and its aggressive actions as a forced response to the alleged actions of the United States and our democratic allies and partners.

Theme #2: Historical Revisionism

When history does not align with the Kremlin’s political objectives, Russian government officials and their proxy voices deny historical events or distort historical narratives to try to cast Russia in a more favorable light and serve its domestic and geopolitical agenda. For example, the 1939 non-aggression pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, also known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which helped precipitate World War II, is politically inconvenient for the Putin regime.

Theme #3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”

Russia pushes the false claim that Western civilization is collapsing and has strayed from “traditional values” because it works to ensure the safety and equality of LGBTQI+ people and promotes concepts such as female equality and multiculturalism.

Theme #4: “Popular Movements are U.S.-sponsored ‘Color Revolutions’”

The Kremlin has difficulty accepting that all individuals should have the human right to freedom of expression, and that the government should be accountable to its people. Russia has accused the United States of either instigating uprisings or plotting “color revolutions” in Georgia, Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic, Moldova, Ukraine, and throughout the Middle East and Africa.

Theme #5: Reality is Whatever the Kremlin Wants It to Be

The Kremlin frequently tries to create multiple false realities and insert confusions into the information environment when the truth is not in its interests. Often intentionally confusing, Russian officials make arguments designed to try to shift the blame away from the Russian government’s role, even if some of the narratives contradict one another.

Read More at: https://www.state.gov/russias-top-five- ... arratives/

[Thinktank]

OH MY GOD - USA WILL NOT ALLOW PEACE
Stinkin Blinken is against a ceasefire

In an effort to get ahead of any possible progress toward peace in Ukraine that might come of Chinese Premier Xi Jinping’s visit to Moscow, White House spokesman John Kirby insisted that no ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia could possibly happen, with Secretary of State Antony Blinken going so far as to say a cessation of hostilities would violate the U.N. charter!

The face of a warmonger. @ 3:38

When will this war end? When USA warmongers are gone.

[seewood]

When will this war end? When USA warmongers are gone.

Give any consideration to Russia go back to their side of the border between it and Ukraine for the war to stop??

Pretty sure that would work with much applause from the world, including China.

[seewood]

double post....

[Thinktank]

...Russia go back ....

Russia should go all the way back to Cuba.




GO BACK TO WHERE YOU BELONG, RUSSIA. BAAAAD RUSSIA.

Bad Putin.


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