Ukraine war/President/news

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WESTman wrote: May 4th, 2023, 3:17 pm Neo Nazi party was banned in Russia in 2010, and that symbol you posted above is slavic unity.
No, it's really not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group

It's a Russian neo-Nazi paramilitary organization working along side Wagner PMC. It's a well documented fact Wagner is named after Hitler's favorite composer - and quite ironically it has become Putin's most prolific decomposer.
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Meanwhile in Kiev.

Ukrainians are shooting down a Ukranian UAV.

Wonder what's up.

Did the poor drone revolt? Started speaking Russian? Do they have too many of them?

By the way, remember the time when Ukrainians shot down their own helicopter with the entire Internal Affairs Ministry on board? A little bit of deja-vue?
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 4th, 2023, 3:56 pm Yeah, sure... other than the Russian Nazis, cutting off ears and savoring the smell of burning Ukrainian flesh, what was there to fear?
Compare Russia and the United States over the last 25 years. How many countries has each invaded, overthrown and couped? How are their military forces positioned and vectored around the globe and how is each countries military set up? (Offense vs defence?) Economically and diplomatically, how do each countries behave and differ?

The greatest piece of propaganda is accusing your enemy of doing what you are doing.

"Russia will take over the world unless we stop them"

Classic.
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 4th, 2023, 3:48 pm No. I've said many times I suck at maths, that doesn't mean I don't understand percentages and can't reason things out. Less than 2% supporting far right ideology isn't indicative of much support and not all far right leaning people support Nazis.
So if we had a Nazi regime that was part of our national guard unit, that would be perfectly fine as long as less than 2% supported it. Got it.
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What happens if they assassinate Putin and a hardliner or the Russian military takes over?

What would China do if the US killed Putin?

Are we thinking that far ahead?

This is absolutely nuts. We are all going to get killed.

Russia is outright saying the US is responsible for this and they are technically correct because whether or not Kelensky ordered it or not the US is 100% empowering Ukraine to do everything. The US leaked documents were very clear Zelensky had ordered strikes inside Russia before, they attacked a Russian air force base that held live nuclear weapons. The United States was very worried that they could not control Zelensky and they would accidentally kick off World War 3.

This is unheard of.

I don't know what Russia is going to do but they are going to do something they are literally being forced at this point. It's not like the US didn't know this was going to happen I literally think they want to do a global reset and kill the internet for 50+ years and nuke the planet because they can't control things anymore and the whole system economic system is insolvent. It's all neocon warhawks in charge and the US president is literally a senile shell he cannot think there is no critical oversight, just backroom policy makers playing their hands now.

The building in the Kremlin that was attacked was the Presidential Executive Office of Putin.

We're being told to assume that Putin bombed his own office.

...while also being told that bombing Putin's office could not possibly be called an assassination attempt.

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
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+++ wrote: May 4th, 2023, 4:18 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: May 4th, 2023, 3:48 pm No. I've said many times I suck at maths, that doesn't mean I don't understand percentages and can't reason things out. Less than 2% supporting far right ideology isn't indicative of much support and not all far right leaning people support Nazis.
So if we had a Nazi regime that was part of our national guard unit, that would be perfectly fine as long as less than 2% supported it. Got it.
Alex, I'll take what is the definition of a regime for 500 please.

Jewish president = nazi regime. *smh* - I may as well engage in the conversation about how Cuba set the stage for this war. Or, how Slavic Union isn't an expression of white nationalism in Russia.

I guess we'll call it there. Have a great day.

Hey, where's the Bahkmut any day now guy lately? I know he doesn't look at twitter links, but even without a translation I'm thinking things aren't going all that good for Wagner in Bahkmut these days.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1654257451330404354

I'm not going to share the translated video I have found (It's not for everyone), but the translation goes...
“Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where are the :cuss: shells!” Look at them, you :cuss: ! They are someone's fathers and someone's son's( :cuss: …) And those :cuss: that don't give us ammo will burn in hell, eating their guts! :cuss: you sit in expensive clubs ( :cuss: …) your children make YouTube videos ( :cuss: ) you think you have the right to dispose of their [Wagner fighters] lives ( :cuss: ) they came here as volunteers and died so you could gorge yourselves in your offices.”
Any of you tankies know if there's a good Russian translation of that Daniel Powter song on Ru Tube? I'd like to post a special sentiment on Greyzone's page - they seem sad. :-(
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 4th, 2023, 4:45 pm Jewish president = nazi regime.
Yes. He signed off on it.
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+++ wrote: May 4th, 2023, 5:26 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: May 4th, 2023, 4:45 pm Jewish president = nazi regime.
Yes. He signed off on it.
Shows how much you know. In 2014, Zelensky was in Russia working on Любовь в большом городе 3 (Love in Vegas) as an actor.
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Bakhmut has fallen, the Ukrainians are clinging onto a cpl of klicks. They bought these extra months at ruinous expense.

The latest Russian strikes crippled any hope of a Ukie counter. That is why theyre going asymetric with the drone strikes, rail sabotage etc, all for the Twit(er) show.

Going forward - Russia will spend the next month consolidating positions and degrading Ukie positions with long range fires. June/July they will likely push foreward in the Kharkov direction and Donetsk city.
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The childlike good/bad statements are very interesting, people really have no conception of international affairs.
Who said it, something like "States don't have friends, only interests". Nuland doesn't care about Ukraine, she wants to poke the bear. Unfortunately she wrote a cheque USA USA can't cash.
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First time since Napoleon the Kremlin has been attacked. This is why a neutral Ukraine is a primary strategic security interest of Russia. This is why Russia has said for 20+ years this was their red line.

Everyone who has ever supported this war owns this rapidly dangerous escalation.

Now they are talking about killing Putin, regime change in Russia...

...and someone just tried to bomb the Kremlin and kill Putin with a drone

"Eliminate this evil regime"

Translation : the end of the planet earth.

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Mazdatruck wrote: May 4th, 2023, 6:23 pm
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Oh please. I don't understand anybody who claims it was a false flag operation. Why can't it be just a mix of haphazard attempts to score a PR victory and a bit of blunder on the Russian side with letting drones fly over the Kremlin?

Did Russian need a special reason to bomb Big Z? Like, they really wanted it, but could not come up with a reason. Putin himself promised Zelensky he won't touch him (after which Big Z became super brave all of a sudden and appeared from the bunker he was hiding at the beginning).
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Even Steven wrote: May 4th, 2023, 7:39 pm Oh please. I don't understand anybody who claims it was a false flag operation.
...because the alternative is haphazardly insane.
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False flag, more like a lame flag attack. Sure, that little "pop" was meant to take out Putin. Didn't quite take out the flag it hit, but it was meant to destroy the Kremlin. For sure. How many times do you think that little drone needed to stop for refueling after it left Ukrainian airspace? [icon_lol2.gif]

What it did manage to accomplish though, is the talk of martial law and suspension of Russian elections.

It's a long one, but worth the watch. (Apparently Julia couldn't get this one up on YouTube due to Russian interference.)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1654279938495635456

Now we go live to a report from frontline Russian war correspondent Maria Katasonova. Make sure you watch it to the end.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1654326848896000000
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 4th, 2023, 9:18 pm Sure, that little "pop" was meant to take out Putin.
"John Hinckley Jr used a little .22 pop gun. He was just plunking cans no big deal!"

The level of propaganda being pushed to downplay the seriousness is downright impressive.

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