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^^^ Russian Empire then Communism dominated the Ukrainian people for 275+ years. Then in early 1990s former Soviet Union agreed on borders, of numerous countries on the breakup of the USSR (including the territory of Ukraine).

Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Kazakhstan
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan
Kyrgyzstan
Tajikistan

People that wanted to remain as Russian citizens could have sold their places in Ukraine and moved back to Russia.
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seewood wrote: May 9th, 2023, 8:49 pm I have yet to see any reports of foreign troops massing at any Russian border in preparation of an attack on Russian sovereign soil.
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gertlush wrote: May 9th, 2023, 8:37 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: May 9th, 2023, 6:16 pm

3.2 km's wide and 2.6 km's deep. Nope, no headlines - no reporting, but not much left of 2 companies of the 72nd Brigade or the 3rd assault detachment of Wagner. What is left of the 72nd seems to be making a glorious advance in a rearward direction.
Sounds important, um, what is it?
Bakhmut - southern flank at the Siversky-Donets canal bridgehead.
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"NATO exists to manage the threats created by its existence" ... best summary i've found.

Think also
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But does Russia think they lost the Cold War? I don't think so. Russia is a great, world historical power. It would do people some good to read history. And no, not WW2 for chrissakes [icon_lol2.gif]

For example - Galicia was part of the Austro Hungarian empire, not Russian.
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Mazdatruck wrote: May 9th, 2023, 9:20 pm NATO is a picnic blanket force spreading joy and happiness!
Exactly, by giving the population in NATO countries the security from Russian attempts to envelope them again and live under the corrupt Russian sphere of influence.
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seewood wrote: May 10th, 2023, 6:50 am Exactly, by giving the population in NATO countries the security from Russian attempts to envelope them again and live under the corrupt Russian sphere of influence.
There are a 100k dead men in Ukraine and the country is in ruins because Ukraine wanted to point a NATO gun at Russia.
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Mazdatruck wrote: May 9th, 2023, 9:20 pm NATO is a picnic blanket force spreading joy and happiness!
seewood wrote: May 10th, 2023, 6:50 am Exactly, ...
Isn't it amazing the sadistic West is using depleted uranium in Ukraine - so people will suffer for hundreds of years. The suffering of Ukrainians is proportional to the constipated facial expressions Freeland makes when looking at Hillary. Big.
Children born in Serbia between 1999 and 2015 were exposed to a toxic factor making them vulnerable to malignant diseases according to research by the Commission for investigating the consequences of 1999 NATO air campaign against the then Yugoslavia, the Beta news agency.The possible effects of the depleted uranium ammunition became a hot issue in Serbia with tabloid media publishing analysis confirming the link of an increase in cancer cases to the bombing.
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I never saw a happier Ukrainian discuss half a million dead Ukrainians in my life. Her name - Freeland - isn't Ukrainian, I can tell you that.


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WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????

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Mazdatruck wrote: May 10th, 2023, 8:07 am There are a 100k dead men in Ukraine and the country is in ruins because Ukraine wanted to point a NATO gun at Russia.
Likely more than 100K dead in Ukraine, some are women and children from direct missile attacks from Russia. Many are dead Russians fighting for what exactly? Many dead Ukrainian men defending their country from Russian aggression.
Mazdatruck wrote: May 10th, 2023, 8:07 am and the country is in ruins because Ukraine wanted to point a NATO gun at Russia.
Nope, Ukraine did not point a gun at Russia. Russia and Ukraine signed a non-aggression agreement where each would respect the borders and not invade each other for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons located in their country. In typical Russian fashion, they lied and annexed Crimea in 2014 so Ukraine finally figured the Russians are lying sacks of excrement and prepared for what may come next. That included military training by western forces.
Ukraine wanted and still wants to join the EU and that pizzes the Russians off and although Ukraine may want to join NATO, I really doubt there would be collective NATO support for that, so joining NATO is a non starter and non argument.
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seewood wrote: May 10th, 2023, 9:32 am Likely more than 100K dead in Ukraine, some are women and children.
They are dying so Hunter Biden can make $70000 a month.

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gertlush wrote: May 9th, 2023, 8:37 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: May 9th, 2023, 6:16 pm

3.2 km's wide and 2.6 km's deep. Nope, no headlines - no reporting, but not much left of 2 companies of the 72nd Brigade or the 3rd assault detachment of Wagner. What is left of the 72nd seems to be making a glorious advance in a rearward direction.
Sounds important, um, what is it?
Remember this? How heroic advances by Ukrainian warriors were supposed to do this:

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And then it ended up being a whole lot of nothingburger and completely fake news? [icon_lol2.gif]
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Mazdatruck wrote: May 10th, 2023, 10:08 am They are dying so Hunter Biden can make $70000 a month.
What in hell's name has Hunter Biden got to do with Poo-tin wanting Ukraine under its sphere of influence again?
Some "tankies" here apparently claim Russia invaded Ukraine because of corruption and to de-nazify Ukraine.

So what is it?

Your logic is definitely not my logic, taking a quote from the late "Spock"
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Mazdatruck wrote: May 10th, 2023, 8:07 am
seewood wrote: May 10th, 2023, 6:50 am Exactly, by giving the population in NATO countries the security from Russian attempts to envelope them again and live under the corrupt Russian sphere of influence.
There are a 100k dead men in Ukraine and the country is in ruins because Ukraine wanted to point a NATO gun at Russia.
And don't forget the Ukraine is a POS corrupt country that isnt worth the billions wasted on it. You make your bed, you lie in it
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Even Steven wrote: May 10th, 2023, 10:18 am
gertlush wrote: May 9th, 2023, 8:37 pm

Sounds important, um, what is it?
Remember this? How heroic advances by Ukrainian warriors were supposed to do this:

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And then it ended up being a whole lot of nothingburger and completely fake news? [icon_lol2.gif]
Get back to me when you figure out where Bakhmut is on a map.
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 10th, 2023, 12:32 pm
Get back to me when...
Get back to me when you stop falling for Ukrainian propaganda, fakes, and lies [icon_lol2.gif]
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Still haven't found it on the map - eh? Some people might call what happened to Wagner that day a tragedy. I'm not one of them.
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