Slipping into World War Three

[Mazdatruck]

Some place the chance of nuclear war at only 25%. I say given a unlimited timeline and the existence of nuclear weapons, the probability ultimately is 100%

You're right.

World War 2 was a nuclear war.

They literally invented The Bomb to use it as fast as they could. On civilians. Preemptively.

That "inevitable" timeline was only a few weeks from invention to actually dropping it.

The US just changed their nuclear policy from defence to "first use".

The US now says they reserve the right to "achieve our objectives" through using, or threatening to use, nuclear weapons and the the United States will not allow Russia, or any power, to achieve its objectives through using, or threatening to use, nuclear weapons.

In layman's terms - if the US wants something and you resist - they can nuke you first to achieve their desires.

Joe Biden said 2 weeks ago the US wants to regime change Russia.

So, that's that.

[gertlush]

Seems like we are rapidly approaching some other lines - would a cyberattack be a declaration of war? What if the yanks decided to give Russias $300bil of seized reserves to themselves via the Ukraine conduit? What if Russian tankers mysteriously start sinking?

Like others have said - Nuland, Kagan and the rest dont give a *bleep* about us or Ukraine. This is about Americas empire and, if the US cant be in charge, would you even want to live in that world??

[oldtrucker]

There is no way we will ever be in a nuclear war, so why prep for it... according to some.... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=76075&hilit=Nuclear+war+oldtrucker

[Tyrian-Quill]

Rome (AP) — French President Emmanuel Macron said Sunday it’s up to Ukraine to decide the time and terms of peace with Russia, and he cautioned that the end of war “can’t be the consecration of the law of the strongest.”

Speaking at the opening of a three-day peace conference in Rome, Macron said the international community will be there when the Ukrainian government chooses that time.

“To stay neutral would mean accepting the world order of the strongest, and I don’t agree with this,” Macron said at the conference organized by a Catholic charity with close ties to the Vatican.

There is concern that support from Ukraine’s allies in Europe might be eroded due to soaring energy costs with the approach of winter.

Pope Francis is scheduled to conclude the Cry for Peace conference, sponsored by the Sant’Egidio Community, with a speech Tuesday at the Colosseum.

Throughout the war that began with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine eight months ago, the pope has warned against an arms buildup. But he has said Ukraine has the right to defend itself.

• Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 49240d101b

imo: the entire article is a good read

[Thinktank]

the pope has warned against an arms buildup. But he has said Ukraine has the right to defend itself.

The Pope is a dumb warmonger.

Russia is a superpower with more billionaires than Germany.

Ukraine has an economy = to Cuba, with four times more people. Ukraine is bankrupt.

The only reason Ukraine has a big army - SOME AMERICAN WARMONGERS LOVE TO SEE A GOOD SLAUGHTER.



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[Thinktank]

many people here are wondering if WW3 is possible.

To answer that question, don't ask if Russia, an economy smaller than South Korea is capable or wants to start WW3.

Don't ask if Russia, with billionaires who get rich just by opening the tap while the average Russian lives ten years less than the average German - wants a war. Poor people in Russia are already poor - they don't need WW3. But the west does.

Don't ask if Russia is willing to start WW3 to expand their borders. They got the biggest country in the world with the most resources. But the crooked west wants to expand their borders - to control the entire world.

If you want to know if WW3 is possible, you have to figure out how far our own leaders - crooks who coerced a fake vaxine on the gullible sheep to steal $billions fromus, how far are our own leaders willing to go to start WW3?

Our warmonger leaders are already pumping hundreds of $billions into the war. Will our leaders start WW3 now, just after tormenting us with a fake pandemic? The answer is - maybe. How ugly are our (USA, Europe, Canada etc) warmongers? Very ugly. Will they do it?

Probably.

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[gertlush]

The US is presently incapable of fighting a land war in Europe, so a nuclear WW3, maybe. Im not too worried, Ukraine will be crushed and memory-holed and we can move on.

[Thinktank]

The US is presently incapable of fighting a land war in Europe...

The law says if you give a guy a gun, knowing he'll kill someone - YOU ARE GUILTY AS SIN.

We are in WW3. Our slobs in Ottawa - every one of them - contributed not only three wonderful standing ovations for the
idiot comedian, but $2 or $3 billion dollars - for guns - to kill Russians. that means we started WW3 with Russia. And USA is a hundred times more guilty than we are.

We are in WW3 right now, but the beautiful thing about it is - so far - it's only 100,000 Ukrainians who are dead and 200,000 others who are injured, and a hell of a lot of other Ukrainians who lost everything and fled.

ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL? I want to give it a standing ovation.

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[Dead right]

We are in WW3 and Russia started it, they invaded with their 2nd rate army and now have their backs to the wall and the USA has even thrown a punch.

[seewood]

ww3 is likely to start when China tries to invade Taiwan.
at the least it will become a regional conflict against China and perhaps Russia's eastern forces getting involved.
Some pundits believe WW 3 will be over water with upstream countries damming rivers curtailing downstream flows..

WW3 has not started in Ukraine. It is a war started against Ukraine by Russia and it is currently being fought by those two nations. Ukraine is being supplied by the west and Russia is being supplied by Iran, North Korea that we know about.
It can be argued it is a proxy war between democratic governments and autocratic governments.

[gertlush]

ww3 is likely to start when China tries to invade Taiwan.
at the least it will become a regional conflict against China and perhaps Russia's eastern forces getting involved.
Some pundits believe WW 3 will be over water with upstram countries daming rivers curtailing downstream flows..

WW3 has not started in Ukraine. It is a war started against Ukraine by Russia and it is currently being fought by those two nations. Ukraine is being supplied by the west and Russia is being supplied by Iran, North Korea that we know about.
It can be argued it is a proxy war between democratic governments and autocratic governments.

Its a stretch to call Russia a democracy! And Id say our system is more Oligarchic than Autocratic, so far anyway

[Drip_Torch]

ww3 is likely to start when China tries to invade Taiwan.
at the least it will become a regional conflict against China and perhaps Russia's eastern forces getting involved.
Some pundits believe WW 3 will be over water with upstram countries daming rivers curtailing downstream flows..

WW3 has not started in Ukraine. It is a war started against Ukraine by Russia and it is currently being fought by those two nations. Ukraine is being supplied by the west and Russia is being supplied by Iran, North Korea that we know about.
It can be argued it is a proxy war between democratic governments and autocratic governments.

Have you seen the War playing out between the two nuclear powers China and India? I understand they just had a big border skirmish on December 6th.

For a preview of what WW IV will look like, check out this...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1602677519626665985

[Thinktank]

it is a proxy war between democratic governments and autocratic governments.

that word again - democracy. We should die for democracy.

Actually like Iraq, it is a war between billionaire war profiteers and our bank account, with Europe's poorest people as cannon fodder, tortured, slaughtered, frozen, starved, and blown up for the benefit of our billionaires.

We know that we could have negotiated peace. Putin begged for eight years. but the slimy guys we elected grinned
when they met Zelensky instead. Remember that?
<--- Freeland <---Trudeau <--- Joly



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[seewood]

For a preview of what WW IV will look like, check out this...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1602677519626665985

Phhhttt. Is this what it means when Russia is arming India? Too funny...

[nucksRnum1]

The pen is mightier than the sword......