US Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade

[Glacier]

Great, the people voted to support abortion rights. Meanwhile democrats can kick out any Republican candidates who don't "Get it". The Supreme court still needs to be more balanced on this issue.

The courts don't make laws, they make judgments based on the Constitution and laws that are already in place. The court was not ruling whether abortion should happen or not, it was ruling whether the US Constitution guarantees it as a right. If it is not a fundamental right, as the Court ruled in its opinion, then the legal matter becomes a state issue.

[Silverstarqueen]

Great, the people voted to support abortion rights. Meanwhile democrats can kick out any Republican candidates who don't "Get it". The Supreme court still needs to be more balanced on this issue.

The courts don't make laws, they make judgments based on the Constitution and laws that are already in place. The court was not ruling whether abortion should happen or not, it was ruling whether the US Constitution guarantees it as a right. If it is not a fundamental right, as the Court ruled in its opinion, then the legal matter becomes a state issue.

I am quite aware that the courts don't make laws. For some 40 years or so tho women had their right to access abortion somewhat protected by the Courts. Supposedly the courts should be able to protect people's rights, and this was working whether there were Democrats or Republicans in government. Then a president tried deliberately to put in Justices which would be biased in a certain direction, and , no surprise, there was suddenly a huge change in the landscape of women's rights. A change that affects every woman of child bearing age, her ability to work, support her family, get an education, sometimes even to choose to stay with or leave an abusive partner. So if stacking the supreme court a certain way can do all that, no surprise that this has created a brouhaha. To boot, several states had laws discriminating against women's rights to determine their own reproduction, just waiting in the wings to come into play, should Roe v. Wade be struck down. Why would any American be in favor of a set of laws like that? Either America's constitution and courts protect the right to Life, Liberty for all, or it supports discrimination. This is not even what the majority of americans support, and yet it happened in a heart beat. Why didn't states have laws in place that would trigge a continuation of women's rights, if Roe v. Wade should fall? If Roe v Wade needed fixing, why wasn't it fixed, instead of leaving millions of american women in such a precarious position?

[The Green Barbarian]

Why would any American be in favor of a set of laws like that?

Why don't you ask them. I think though that you are asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is "Why would any American woman be in favor of a set of laws like that?" Because millions of them are. Have you ever thought about why that is?

[The Green Barbarian]

Meanwhile democrats can kick out any Republican candidates who don't "Get it".

The ignorance of the US political system being displayed here is stunning. Democrats can't just kick out Republicans, and vice versa, it's the voters who "kick out" candidates. That's how it's always worked. Just amazing the lack of knowledge being displayed here, that isn't somehow stopping people from expressing their opinions anyway, which is just embarrassing.

[captkirkcanada]

kansas set the tone. other states now are having second thoughts of just letting the extremist abortion hypocrites make themselves look like backwater fools

[The Green Barbarian]

kansas set the tone. other states now are having second thoughts of just letting the extremist abortion hypocrites make themselves look like backwater fools

"Extremist abortion hypocrites" - what are you talking about?? If women are against abortion, how are they "hypocrites"? It's their body and you have no right to judge them.

[Pappywinkle]

kansas set the tone. other states now are having second thoughts of just letting the extremist abortion hypocrites make themselves look like backwater fools

Yup, the disgusting Republicans and their apologists look like complete fools with states like Kansas calling out right wing extremism, and rightly so!

[JLives]

kansas set the tone. other states now are having second thoughts of just letting the extremist abortion hypocrites make themselves look like backwater fools

"Extremist abortion hypocrites" - what are you talking about?? If women are against abortion, how are they "hypocrites"? It's their body and you have no right to judge them.

Because they think they are entitled to make decisions about someone else's body. It's pretty straight forward. Prochoice is the only non hypocritical stance to have. If you are personally against abortion, you simply don't have one. Do you have any idea how many people who claim to be pro life have either had abortions or paid for someone else to? Many, many people. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

[Mazdatruck]

impossible to have a deadbeat mom in same sense because women are now being forced to have a kid even after rape or incest in america states of a republican stripe.

There are thousands of men in North America currently being forced to pay for child support for children that are not theirs, kids that their partners created while cheating.

Let's start there.

Are those mom's deadbeat moms?

How many 1000's of women-rape-victims are being forced to carry the baby to term in Republican states?

[captkirkcanada]

impossible to have a deadbeat mom in same sense because women are now being forced to have a kid even after rape or incest in america states of a republican stripe.

There are thousands of men in North America currently being forced to pay for child support for children that are not theirs, kids that their partners created while cheating.

Let's start there.

Are those mom's deadbeat moms?

How many 1000's of women-rape-victims are being forced to carry the baby to term in Republican states?

lol except theres this thing called a test to see who parents are so why post fake news?

[Mazdatruck]

lol except theres this thing called a test to see who parents are so why post fake news?

The parties were all DNA tested. The courts know 100% the kids were from adultery situations. That doesn't matter. The courts say that just because the kid isn't yours, that doesn't mean you get out of having to pay for it! If you paid for the kid for the first 5 years and found out it isn't your blood - you STILL HAVE TO KEEP PAYING because...you know...you'd be a deadbeat otherwise! SOMEBODY has to pay for the kid...and that's you Mr Man. So pony up or off to jail you go!

I love how this is a surprise to you!!!

Yes, there are THOUSANDS of men who are being forced (under threat of jailtime ect) to pay for children that are DNA tested and not of their own blood.

In France - it is ILLEGAL to DNA test your own kids. If your wife cheats too bad for you!

So...deadbeat moms...?

No man should support abortion laws without making a condition of such abortion laws that child support is not mandatory for men. If women can kill it or drop it off at a hospital, then a man doesn't have to pay for it. The thing about modern feminists and equality is is they dont actually want equality, they just want the perks. Equality in this situation is fairly obvious, but gets socially obscured.

[spooker]

No man should support abortion laws without making a condition of such abortion laws that child support is not mandatory for men. If women can kill it or drop it off at a hospital, then a man doesn't have to pay for it. The thing about modern feminists and equality is is they dont actually want equality, they just want the perks. Equality in this situation is fairly obvious, but gets socially obscured.

But as it is now, when abortion is not an option the mothers don't get much help from the state ... if the state is going to require the birth then it should have a hand in making sure that all parties are cared for ...

At least for the father, they have the legal ability to fight against child support ... no, it's not equal but not in the way suggested

[Mazdatruck]

when abortion is not an option the mothers don't get much help from the state ... if the state is going to require the birth then it should have a hand in making sure that all parties are cared for ...

The state/taxpayer will raise that kid.

All the mother has to do is drop it off at a hospital.

Thats 100% coverage and no one will dare utter the term deadbeat.

[ifwisheswerehorses]

How about all unwanted babies go to the father? No abortion, no issue....

[Veovis]

How about all unwanted babies go to the father? No abortion, no issue....

Or

Father wants baby mother doesn't father takes it mother off the hook

Mother wants baby father doesn't father off the hook

Neither want it....clinic time

That's equality