Have universities become dangerous to our Nation?

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Gone_Fishin wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 6:36 pm Breaking News :
Anti-Israel protesters clash with police at the University of Michigan as they break into the school president's office. Which is extremely shameful and condemnable, what is this way of protesting in which common people have to face problems. Why don't the governments there take action against such hooligans?
They have to start taking action. There's something to be said for coming down hard on the offenders, using them to set an example.

In May 2023, the US Federal Government came out with the US National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism which includes an implementation timeline that goes from May through November 2023...

"Strategic Goal 1.1—Increase School-Based Education about Antisemitism, Including the Holocaust, and Jewish American Heritage
In 2020, the first 50-state survey on Holocaust knowledge among millennials and Gen Z found that most young Americans lack basic knowledge of the Holocaust. For example, 63% of survey respondents did not know that 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, nearly 60% did not know what the concentration camp Auschwitz was, and 11% believed that Jews caused the Holocaust. 25 We need Holocaust education in schools to correct this lack of knowledge and help ensure that future generations learn about antisemitism and the history of the Holocaust, including how and why it happened. Holocaust education should make clear that antisemitism was the basis of Hitler’s persecution of Jews.
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Imagine thinking that today's university students know better than a political commentator with a degree in history from Cornell who hosts a political talk show where the panel often consists of experts in their fields. Yet it happens.

Bill Maher: "The attitude is sort of like, "Well, you know, this is very complicated. I didn't really study it, I don't really know the facts, so I'm just gonna go with a kind of they're both guilty equally and a moral equivalency," which I would like to take issue with tonight.
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"Most Americans know little of the history, ie of the Holocaust."
Surprised?
Ask an American the capital of Canada.Many weren't around for John Kennedy's assassination; or 911.
Closer to home, how many Canadians could provide details of the Japanese internment during World War II ?...There are certainly a plethora of significant historical events that Canadians have little or no knowledge of.
What is historical and taught in schools is governed largely by who makes the most noise.
The mess in the Middle East brings the Jewish tragedy to the fore.
Evenly teach many significant events of history, there would be little time left for other subjects,
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So on the one hand we have
"Students shouldn't have to learn anything outside their field. My engineer friend had to write an essay one time, omg!"
Then
"Its a travesty that everybody doesn't learn about the holocaust"
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marvin gardens wrote: Nov 20th, 2023, 11:37 am "Most Americans know little of the history, ie of the Holocaust."
Surprised?
Ask an American the capital of Canada.Many weren't around for John Kennedy's assassination; or 911.
Closer to home, how many Canadians could provide details of the Japanese internment during World War II ?...There are certainly a plethora of significant historical events that Canadians have little or no knowledge of.
What is historical and taught in schools is governed largely by who makes the most noise.
The mess in the Middle East brings the Jewish tragedy to the fore.
Evenly teach many significant events of history, there would be little time left for other subjects,
Most Canadians in universities too ... both the parents and students that have paid tuition to universities should be asking for their money back ... nothing but cesspools of propaganda and indoctrination...
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Queen K wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 6:29 am Proud of the UofA

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/ca ... 2565&ei=46

University of Alberta, situated in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, has taken swift action in response to the recent controversy surrounding the improper use of the name of its Sexual Assault Centre. Samantha Pearson, the center's director, has been removed from her position after she endorsed an open letter that denied allegations of rape and sexual violence by Hamas terrorists against Israeli women during the October 7 massacre.

In a statement released on Saturday, the university announced the immediate removal of Pearson from her role and the appointment of a new interim director for the Sexual Assault Centre. The university emphasized that Pearson's personal views and opinions do not represent those of the institution.

Letter signed in 'improper and unauthorized use' of university's name
University President and Vice-Chancellor Bill Flanagan stated, "The recent improper and unauthorized use of the name of the University of Alberta’s Sexual Assault Centre in endorsing an open letter has raised understandable concerns from members of our community and the public." He continued, "I want to be clear that the former employee’s personal views and opinions do not in any way represent those of the University of Alberta."
Thanks for posting this Queen. :up:
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Nov 19th, 2023, 6:36 pm Breaking News :

Anti-Israel protesters clash with police at the University of Michigan as they break into the school president's office. Which is extremely shameful and condemnable, what is this way of protesting in which common people have to face problems. Why don't the governments there take action against such hooligans?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1726014163666035138
Pure scum. Let's hope they are all expelled.
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Reading the post of the U of A statement is revealing in that what was said is missing.
The Director of the Sexual Office "supposedly" said something in support of "allegations"
Nowhere is she quoted and the statement from the President of the University only says "her comments do not support the mission of the University"
He continued with statements about inclusion and diversity, which sidesteps the details of what caused the dismissal of the employee.
Another example where media simply repeats what is given, without question.
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment ... 47fe&ei=11

The entertainment industry is not taking pro-Hamas hatred of Jews lightly. Let's hope our universities in Canada follow the same rule.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 22nd, 2023, 1:17 pm https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment ... 47fe&ei=11

The entertainment industry is not taking pro-Hamas hatred of Jews lightly. Let's hope our universities in Canada follow the same rule.
Unlikely, Canadian universities are public institutions, not privately owned by, uhhh, I hate to stereotype but...umm... why not just do some research. United Talent Agencies and Spyglass Entertainment are the parties involved here [icon_lol2.gif]
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gertlush wrote: Nov 22nd, 2023, 1:52 pm

Unlikely, Canadian universities are public institutions, not privately owned by, uhhh, I hate to stereotype but...umm... why not just do some research. United Talent Agencies and Spyglass Entertainment are the parties involved here [icon_lol2.gif]
I don't know what point you are making here...so if universities would be run by the same people as United Talent and Spyglass that antisemites in those institutions would be punished and/or fired? Interesting hypothesis and stands to reason why they should be in charge, if it means that universities would finally be forced to do the right thing.
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gertlush wrote: Nov 20th, 2023, 2:58 pm So on the one hand we have
"Students shouldn't have to learn anything outside their field. My engineer friend had to write an essay one time, omg!"
Then
"Its a travesty that everybody doesn't learn about the holocaust"
From my understanding, I think you omitted to mention the student in question was “forced” to write an essay involving a “ridiculous premise” which still hasn’t been disclosed as to how or why it was deemed ridiculous.

Two of my nephews are attending ubco and say their profs haven’t delved into politics whatsoever. That’s what happened when I attended too - it was coursework, not sitting around a fire discussing the politics of Israel and Jewish people
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Here's more on that idiot Susan Sarandon. Would only our universities censure people who are spouting the same hateful rhetoric and evil garbage as she is right now.

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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 22nd, 2023, 3:10 pm Here's more on that idiot Susan Sarandon.
She has a right to speak her mind. But not sure what the endeavours of some 77 year old actress have to do with universities definitely not being dangerous to our nation.
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VaxisSafe wrote: Nov 22nd, 2023, 4:35 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 22nd, 2023, 3:10 pm Here's more on that idiot Susan Sarandon.
She has a right to speak her mind. But not sure what the endeavours of some 77 year old actress have to do with universities definitely not being dangerous to our nation.
But why does it seem that only one side of the divide gets to speak their mind in/at Universities? (remember the divide was created by the one side that should not be named)
Censorship may lead to lack of information and subsequent development of apathy, ignorance, conformism and general stagnation. It may threaten democracy and encourage subversive activities... but worse is invisible censorship - it's alive and well.
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VaxisSafe wrote: Nov 22nd, 2023, 4:35 pm

She has a right to speak her mind.
LOL - and this is what cracks me up. The moronic hypocrisy. This old dingbat is going out of her way to defend a murderous barbaric Hamas regime that deliberately tortures and murders gay people, and we have the board sanctimonious LGBTQ types here totally lying about the Conservatives and their "threat" to gay people, but yet going out of their way to defend idiots and evil scumbags who are a real and legitimate threat to gay people, including evil antisemites on our university campuses.

It makes no sense. I know that somehow the fools who support LGBTQ "rights" in Canada who are also standing behind "Queers for Palestine" signs don't trouble themselves to think very much, but this dichotomy I just find so fascinating, "standing behind" people who would willingly slit your throats with a smile on their face, thinking they were doing the will of the God, and here you are defending these animals, and idiots like Susan Sarandon who supports said animals. It just boggles the mind.
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