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Feel free to start a topic about BC politics in, you guessed it, the BC forum. This thread is not the right place for it.
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gardengirl wrote:

These people can also be sued for malpractice if they agree to do something which is not within the realm of professional practice.

Sure they can, but it doesn't mean they would win the case. Deciding with a patient to pull teeth is unlikely to be deemed malpractice in law.

The Dentists this person visited did offer suggestions.
The big deal seems to be that they will not do major treatment on a total stranger, with no credit rating, on the promise that they will pay.

The big deal is the cost.




PS Feel free to go back and correct my spelling error in your copy of my op.
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gardengirl wrote:
kccayenne wrote:That is a pretty harsh way of looking at it.

It has to be said that looking after our teeth should be a big priority.


Well, in this case, this person had full dental coverage, and still did nothing.
Now she is blaming everyone else for the situation in which she now finds herself.


I hear venting, complaining, but no blaming everyone else.
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Advocate wrote:
gardengirl wrote:
kccayenne wrote:That is a pretty harsh way of looking at it.

It has to be said that looking after our teeth should be a big priority.


Well, in this case, this person had full dental coverage, and still did nothing.
Now she is blaming everyone else for the situation in which she now finds herself.


I hear venting, complaining, but no blaming everyone else.


She has blamed the Dentist from years ago for causing this thing. She is dumping all over Dentists because they won't trust her to pay. She is blaming Dentists for being greedy for expecting to be paid for their work. She is blaming Dentists for perhaps losing her job because she won't look good enough to deal with the public.

All her problems she has had the opportunity to do something about. She had full dental coverage in the past. To have full dental coverage and not use it, is idiotic. It is even more idiotic to then complain about it.

If she had not let things get so bad, the repairs would not cost so much whether she had coverage or not.

Perhaps if she had used a different title in the op, it would have helped.
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gardengirl wrote:She has blamed the Dentist from years ago for causing this thing. She is dumping all over Dentists because they won't trust her to pay. She is blaming Dentists for being greedy for expecting to be paid for their work. She is blaming Dentists for perhaps losing her job because she won't look good enough to deal with the public.

Do you know for sure what the dentist of years ago did? Do you know for certain that particular dentist is infallible and not responsible for some of the problems going on right now?

Didn’t think so.

So let’s give the benefit of the doubt here and say that the dentist of years ago was at fault. Yeah, she’d be feeling pretty screwed over because now she will have to pay thousands of dollars to rectify the situation and not even have her own teeth any more. That’s damned traumatic in my opinion, I like my teeth. Further to the reason she’s in this situation, some medications and medical conditions can and WILL make for dental nightmares, genetics too. I feel her frustration and know it well from personal experience. I have a future $3k dental bill coming up to begin preparing for now. Surgeons don’t take payments, so she’s not alone here. It's a frustrating thing to know that there is no assistance for something so critical as dental care, especially when the related complications can result in death.

gardengirl wrote:All her problems she has had the opportunity to do something about. She had full dental coverage in the past. If she had not let things get so bad, the repairs would not cost so much whether she had coverage or not.

It’s not entirely clear to me when her problems happened. If they happened AFTER coverage expiry, there’s no grounds for that judgment of her actions. However, in the original post, she does mention that if she had the money, she’d have been able to prevent the situation from becoming so serious. It’s like a mechanic said one time “you can pay me now, or you pay me later”. Either way, we WILL have to pay somewhere along the line whether we have the money or not. That’s a harsh enough reality as it is without being judged harshly. The OP may be wishing she’d not opened herself up to this level of scrutiny, and she may also be remorseful over not spending the money she couldn’t afford earlier.

gardengirl wrote:Perhaps if she had used a different title in the op, it would have helped.
No one has screwed her over except herself.

The title is a little misleading… unless you read it as that she feels screwed over because her situation is so frustrating and seemingly severe. Again, she FEELS screwed over; it doesn’t mean she actually was screwed over, unless indeed the original dentist was at fault (undetermined). Whether you believe she has the right to feel screwed over is immaterial, your thoughts don’t really matter, and neither do mine, for when she walks away from her computer, she has pain in her mouth, and it’s likely radiating through her entire skull (been there), and she is under a tremendous amount of stress left feeling as though she’s got no where to turn. I’ve experienced that level of pain, and you know what, clarity of thought is not an option; so you continue to sit there with all your teeth in check because you were able to look after them, and appreciate the relative peace you have. The OP doesn’t have that relative peace, and she’s obviously NOT going to get it on this forum either.
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gardengirl wrote:
Advocate wrote:
gardengirl wrote:
kccayenne wrote:That is a pretty harsh way of looking at it.

It has to be said that looking after our teeth should be a big priority.


Well, in this case, this person had full dental coverage, and still did nothing.
Now she is blaming everyone else for the situation in which she now finds herself.


I hear venting, complaining, but no blaming everyone else.


She has blamed the Dentist from years ago for causing this thing.

I wouldn't call that blame, I would call that holding the dentist accountable.

She is dumping all over Dentists because they won't trust her to pay.

She is upset that no dentist will trust that she will make the payments, and no dentist will give her a reasonable payment schedule. I suspect she has not asked in the right manner.

She is blaming Dentists for being greedy for expecting to be paid for their work.
That is her observation, not blame.

She is blaming Dentists for perhaps losing her job because she won't look good enough to deal with the public.
I didn't hear that.

All her problems she has had the opportunity to do something about. She had full dental coverage in the past. To have full dental coverage and not use it, is idiotic. It is even more idiotic to then complain about it.

To call someone idiotic when you do not know the full details of the circumstance is ignorant IMO.

If she had not let things get so bad, the repairs would not cost so much whether she had coverage or not.

And you know this - how?

Perhaps if she had used a different title in the op, it would have helped.

I'm more about the content of the story than the headlines.
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The title is a little misleading… unless you read it as that she feels screwed over because her situation is so frustrating and seemingly severe.


She is not alone.

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