Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control

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concernie, Thanks for addressing my questions?

So, could the remedy be as Adam Bradley suggests in his Goodreads review of Feb 10, 2011?

Adam Bradley's Review Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/77789390
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Absent from the book is a notion of repentance, and I think this is the key to unlocking the bind of sexual-political domination. Throughout, it is asserted as fait accompli that once sexual corruption has gotten its hooks into someone, that person is then and must perpetually remain a slave to the whims of whomever is able to manipulate those passions (by being seen as their guarantor, linking them with some other political end, capitalizing upon them through commerce, etc). But what would happen if, as a rule, we took to confessing our sexual sins instead of trying to hide them? Not mere private confession (in which dark secrets remain in our closets) and not mere exhibitionism (that would just be more public pornography) but earnest, public confession that we have sinned against God and man, that we recognize it as sin, that we make no excuses for it, and that we do not wish for others coming after us to bear the terrible weight of the same sins of which we are guilty? In the default human mode of secrecy and shame, people are unable to turn against their sexual masters for fear of being "outed" (e.g. by Masters, who took sexual histories from politicians and wealthy men who then promptly decided to fund his work) or of being called "hypocrites" (usually by others so enmeshed in fornication, adultery, and lust that the accusation is itself hypocritical), but does this power not disappear as soon as those same people are willing to replace secrecy and shame with a truly Christian lifestyle of confession and repentance?


Or maybe some simple acknowledgement and straight talk as I suggested in my last post above?
http://forums.castanet.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=52234#p1531635

For example: No wonder it took me months to recover from my vasectomy performed by a surgeon of a 'certain' faith which seems to have now capitulated to the sexual revolution as Jones claims in the OP video (00:49:00).

There, I feel better already.
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WTTG wrote:Absent from the book is a notion of repentance, and I think this is the key to unlocking the bind of sexual-political domination. Throughout, it is asserted as fait accompli that once sexual corruption has gotten its hooks into someone, that person is then and must perpetually remain a slave to the whims of whomever is able to manipulate those passions (by being seen as their guarantor, linking them with some other political end, capitalizing upon them through commerce, etc). But what would happen if, as a rule, we took to confessing our sexual sins instead of trying to hide them? Not mere private confession (in which dark secrets remain in our closets) and not mere exhibitionism (that would just be more public pornography) but earnest, public confession that we have sinned against God and man, that we recognize it as sin, that we make no excuses for it, and that we do not wish for others coming after us to bear the terrible weight of the same sins of which we are guilty? In the default human mode of secrecy and shame, people are unable to turn against their sexual masters for fear of being "outed" (e.g. by Masters, who took sexual histories from politicians and wealthy men who then promptly decided to fund his work) or of being called "hypocrites" (usually by others so enmeshed in fornication, adultery, and lust that the accusation is itself hypocritical), but does this power not disappear as soon as those same people are willing to replace secrecy and shame with a truly Christian lifestyle of confession and repentance?


Not sure if the notion of repentance is lacking in this book. Perhaps it is, but the examples used to illustrate Libido Dominandi involve those who do not subscribe to the Christian faith. So, repentance is kind of a moot subject in that case. And where Christians are involved, they end up abandoning their faith in exchange for modernism, encounter groups in the case of the Sacred Heart nuns.
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Just a friendly reminder to readers: the above passage concernie quotes is not directly mine, but from Adam Bradley's Review of Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control, on Goodreads.
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/77789390

Thanks.
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The Great Porn Experiment Gary Wilson at TEDxGlasgow HD

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If I hadn’t noticed the above video was from TED, I wouldn’t have watched it. And now I can’t believe there are legions of young men out there who are discovering they are addicted to internet porn, ingesting and digesting the deep science behind their addiction, and are eschewing porn for the sake of their health, lending their brains to science, and bettering the world around them—becoming traitors to the 'political will of the sexual revolution.' What planet did I wake up on this morning?
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WTTG wrote:If I hadn’t noticed the above video was from TED, I wouldn’t have watched it. And now I can’t believe there are legions of young men out there who are discovering they are addicted to internet porn, ingesting and digesting the deep science behind their addiction, and are eschewing porn for the sake of their health, lending their brains to science, and bettering the world around them—becoming traitors to the 'political will of the sexual revolution.' What planet did I wake up on this morning?


The question is, knowing that pornography is used as a form of social control, will the majority of men using pornography wake up? It's unlikely considering that there are too many other addictions reinforcing porn addiction, techno-addiction for example. The ease of access to porn—through techno--devices like iPhones—makes it an even more powerful form of control.
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concernie wrote:The question is, knowing that pornography is used as a form of social control, will the majority of men using pornography wake up? It's unlikely considering that there are too many other addictions reinforcing porn addiction, techno-addiction for example. The ease of access to porn—through techno--devices like iPhones—makes it an even more powerful form of control.


Well, from the video, it seems some young men are seeking treatment from their doctors for erectile dysfunction due to brain burnout from porn. Literally . . . themselves out of business. With correct diagnosis, maybe the the natural treatment the video suggests could be prescribed, or they could be denied Viagra and be thrown into rehab. That is if the 'political will of the sexual revolution' would allow it.
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cliffy1 wrote:Then there is the spiritual practice of tantric sex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RloBQPFd8Ps

It is North American Christian morality and its repressive views of sexuality that has caused such a perversions that we see toward sexuality today. You don't see those kinds of perverse attitudes in Europe of Asia. Sex can be a spiritual union between the yin and yang of humanity, but western religion has stolen the concept from us with their concept of sin. They think that for Christ to have been perfect, he could not have engaged in sexual union with a woman (or man). But the man was all about love and what better way to express love than through the proper use of sexuality?


You need to get out more...German porn is notoriously perverse and octopi are not just for eating in Japan.
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WTTG wrote:
Well, from the video, it seems some young men are seeking treatment from their doctors for erectile dysfunction due to brain burnout from porn. Literally . . . themselves out of business. With correct diagnosis, maybe the the natural treatment the video suggests could be prescribed, or they could be denied Viagra and be thrown into rehab. That is if the 'political will of the sexual revolution' would allow it.


Welcome to the school of "No Fap". Yes, it is serious.



Meanwhile, more evidence that the sexual revolution has been a complete failure:

CNN report says women less happy now despite more opportunities due to feminism



ANd then back to your regular sexual liberation programming:

Public masturbation permitted in Sweden so long as it is "not directed at anyone."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/1 ... 49742.html
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concernie wrote:
ANd then back to your regular sexual liberation programming:

Public masturbation permitted in Sweden so long as it is "not directed at anyone."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/1 ... 49742.html

The headline is misleading. The judge only said the it was not sexual assault if it is not aimed at anyone, which it isn't. His judgement was correct. But he added that it was disorderly conduct. The prosecution screwed up by charging the man with the wrong offense.
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cliffy1 wrote: The headline is misleading.

Conny’s interests in research subjects is kinda disturbing though.
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concernie wrote:
(WTTG,)

1. Welcome to the school of "No Fap". Yes, it is serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkyP5W9OGn0 (video above)

2. Meanwhile, more evidence that the sexual revolution has been a complete failure:

CNN report says women less happy now despite more opportunities due to feminism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXeszLlTX5E (video above)

3. ANd then back to your regular sexual liberation programming:

Public masturbation permitted in Sweden so long as it is "not directed at anyone."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/1 ... 49742.html


1. I’m sorry, but I’d likely have to take a few weeks off from watching 'hard-core TED Talks' to desensitise before I could get gratification from watching a 'talking head' like this guy. But then, maybe he's a real turn-on to the 'converted.'

2. 'Bin there dun dat and bot the t-shirt
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3. Charged with sexual assault on whom? Himself?

Maybe this guy was

WTTG wrote: asking himself if he'd been hurt personally by the sexual revolution, and, if so, how, and how he would he feel if he told someone about it.

But he did that as a 'show' not 'tell.'

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