Vegan Food A Human Right?
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Vegan Food A Human Right?
An Ontario firefighter alleges his human rights were violated when he was not provided sufficient vegan food while battling a massive blaze in British Columbia.
Adam Knauff has filed a complaint with the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario against his employer, the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry, over his treatment and subsequent suspension while fighting a fire near Williams Lake in 2017.
"The Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry discriminated against me and failed to accommodate my sincerely held ethical beliefs (creed) when it failed to provide me with food that accommodated my personal commitment to ethical veganism, and then disciplined me and suspended me because I attempted to assert my right to accommodation of that sincerely held ethical belief," he wrote in his application to the tribunal.
The ministry, in its response, denied Knauff's allegations of discrimination and human rights violations.
The case centres on whether veganism is a form of creed — the definition of which was expanded by the Human Rights Tribunal in 2015 to include non-secular beliefs.
Knauff, based in Kenora, Ont., has worked with the ministry since 2008 and is often dispatched outside the province. He filed the complaint based on the grounds that his creed was not accommodated.
"I am an ethical vegan in that I not only follow a vegan diet, but I extend the philosophy of non-consumption of animal products to all other areas of my life," he wrote. "I do not think that humans have the moral right to oppress other beings, or to cause them pain and suffering."
Knauff, now 40, arrived in northern B.C. on July 15, 2017, and was one of about 1,000 firefighters battling a massive forest fire — working 14 to 16 hours per day.
About 10,000 homes were evacuated in Williams Lake, and the only store open was a Tim Hortons that police were helping run, he wrote in his complaint. He said the ministry had long known about his dietary constraints, and he had also filled out a standard food information form for the trip.
"On some days during my deployment to Williams Lake, I was not provided with any food that was vegan or not otherwise contaminated with animal products, and therefore forced to go hungry," he wrote.
On July 16, he ate salad and side dishes. The next day, he wrote, there were no vegan meals, so he ate plain bagels and coffee from Tim Hortons. The day after that he was given "beans, oatmeal and fruits."
"After working 16-hour days for four days with inadequate nutrition I began to feel physically ill and mentally groggy," Knauff wrote. "Until that point I had been trying to push through my hunger and exhaustion, sustaining myself on nuts and fruits."
He complained to the supervisor who said he'd "work on it," the documents say.
On July 20, he wrote: "The only source of protein in my dinner was a single black bean." The next two days he had "inadequate dinners."
He asked for personnel to buy tofu during one of their service runs. He got three blocks of tofu, gave it to the camp's chef, but never saw it again, he wrote.
Things came to a head on July 23 when he was looking forward to a big barbecue dinner, where vegan burgers would be served.
But, he wrote, the chef handled beef patties before touching the vegan patties with the same gloved hands.
Knauff said he swore at the chef, who swore back. His supervisor gave him a warning, he wrote.
"No one seemed to take my ethical beliefs seriously," he wrote.
The next night at dinner, he was served stir-fry with no protein. He was promised beans the following day, he wrote.
He took his plate to his supervisor and asked him if he could see any protein on his plate. The supervisor offered him protein bars.
"I was upset and told him 'no,'" and then he told him — with a curse word — to fix the problem.
"I know that I should not have sworn ... but I was starving, exhausted, humiliated and defeated," he wrote. "I had reached my breaking point."
But the real breaking point came the next day when he picked up his lunch, where, he alleged, half of the food was non-vegan.
He poured it out in front of food staff and said, repeatedly, "this isn't vegan."
That's when his supervisor sent him home.
The ministry says Knauff was sent home and suspended three days without pay due to his "inappropriate, insubordinate, unprofessional and aggressive behaviour." He was also banned from fighting fires outside the province for the remainder of 2017 and all of 2018. The ministry also alleges Knauff threw the non-vegan food at staff, which Knauff denies.
Base camp was difficult for all involved, as they were trying to feed 1,000 firefighters with the closest towns with open stores hours away, the ministry says.
It also argues that Knauff's "vegan status is a sincerely held lifestyle choice, but does not meet the legal definition of creed." It further argues that it "supported the employee and accommodated his food restrictions as if it were a component of his health needs or part of a recognized creed."
https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/256769 ... uman-right
Soooooo, where do we draw the line? Is Kosher a Human Right? How about Halal? Pescatarian? Keto?
How about restaurants that don't offer Vegan options? Will they be in violation of Human Rights?
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I knew it! It was only a matter of time before Vegans would be pulling that one. Kosher & Halal have religious roots, the last I heard.
Diabetics have a 100% verifiable medical basis for requiring low-glycemic index food, and they're not crying about human rights violations. Very few vegans are that way out of a medical condition. Vegans remind me of JWs.
Diabetics have a 100% verifiable medical basis for requiring low-glycemic index food, and they're not crying about human rights violations. Very few vegans are that way out of a medical condition. Vegans remind me of JWs.
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Doesn't sound like a pleasant or professional person.
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If God didn't want us eating meat He wouldn't have made animals taste so damn good!
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Ka-El wrote:If God didn't want us eating meat He wouldn't have made animals taste so damn good!
Especially bacon.
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So I guess "human right" is the latest amoung what once we strong and important ideas to be watered down by self indulgence.
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Vegans have the right to eat whatever they want. They don't have the right to rub their beliefs in our noses. (of course if it was vegan, it wouldn't smell like anything.)
We don't rub our rights to eat animals in your noses.
We don't rub our rights to eat animals in your noses.
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This story is sickening. This is where liberalism leads.
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This one has me stumped. I feel sorry for the guy not having nourishing food, while he's working so hard. I don't think it would have been that difficult to have lots of beans available, canned or cooked. I can't survive without chocolate, but then I would bring that up during the hiring process, and they would say, No Can do on the Fireline, and that would be the end of it,so I wouldn't take the job.(Not that I could do a job like that anyway). So I am left wondering, did he bring this up during hiring, and they assured him they could provide vegan food? The job is just not a good fit for someone who has special dietary needs. As far as the diabetic example, I think they would not be able to provide a reliable supply of insulin either under those conditions.Diabetics in general can eat what other people eat, but might need insulin (which has to be kept cool) to be able to work.
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Silverstarqueen wrote:As far as the diabetic example, I think they would not be able to provide a reliable supply of insulin either under those conditions.Diabetics in general can eat what other people eat, but might need insulin (which has to be kept cool) to be able to work.
Insulin can be kept at room temperature (15-25 degree C) for 28 days, taking insulin cold/from refrigerator is very uncomfortable (stings badly) & is unadvise.
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Mid summer on the fireline, I am guessing the temperature is mostly above 25 degrees, seems it would be difficult to keep the insulin adequately cooled. Usually there are warnings about potency if it has been left in a hot car, which is pretty much how hot it would be in a fire zone in summer.
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If a vegan does CrossFit, which do they tell you about first?
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Gilchy wrote:If a vegan does CrossFit, which do they tell you about first?
What if they’re also a JW, then what?
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You need to meet certain criteria for jobs, able to lift 50lbs, work nights, etc. I'm not vegan and have no problem with them at all - so long they don't push their beliefs on me like bible thumpers.
Maybe the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry needs to be more specific about what they realistically can provide their workers as far as food, health requirements etc. That way when you sign up you keep your part and they keep theirs.
Maybe the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry needs to be more specific about what they realistically can provide their workers as far as food, health requirements etc. That way when you sign up you keep your part and they keep theirs.
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I wonder where this fellows co-workers are on this? I have a funny feeling this guy sits on a rock all by himself at every meal mumbling to himself.