Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
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Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
To all cons and libertarians I have a question about how I fit into your world view. I am an otherwise healthy male that has bipolar 2 and it prevents me from working 80% of the time. I have sought all sorts of treatment and found the effects minimal. I feel that since I cannot work I am a burden to society. Why, in your world view, should I keep going and do I have any value as a person that cannot contribute
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Re: Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
How is this a riddle? Work your 20% and don’t worry about it.
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Re: Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
In what world does working 1 day a week pay the bills?
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Re: Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
Sign up for Disability.
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I think it would stand to reason that if you are diagnosed, and it is determined that you can only put in 20%, that there are resources available.
Be it long term or short term disability.
I have a friend who is going thru something similar, and is currently on short term.
Trying to think of something profound, and full of wisdom to place here...any suggestions?
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Been on short term twice and long once. Moved recently to be closer to supports but I don't qualify for those benefits in my new job. long term is not actually a long term solution. As a society we don't exactly just hand out money to people that can't produce. I feel like I have 0 value
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Re: Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
That is unfortunate. Good to hear that you have moved closer to supports, whether family or otherwise.BenRutgers wrote: ↑Jun 15th, 2021, 10:42 am Been on short term twice and long once. Moved recently to be closer to supports but I don't qualify for those benefits in my new job.
My friend has been on-and-off short term for the last few years, whilst trying to get a handle on medications, and find a balance. (if there is such a thing...)
Good luck.
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Anyone that is TRYING has value. The more you try, the more value you have.BenRutgers wrote: ↑Jun 15th, 2021, 10:42 am Been on short term twice and long once. Moved recently to be closer to supports but I don't qualify for those benefits in my new job. long term is not actually a long term solution. As a society we don't exactly just hand out money to people that can't produce. I feel like I have 0 value
You just haven't found the right path yet.
Don't overthink the problem, just keep trying.
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This is a good response that I fully support ...alanjh595 wrote: ↑Jun 15th, 2021, 11:26 amAnyone that is TRYING has value. The more you try, the more value you have.BenRutgers wrote: ↑Jun 15th, 2021, 10:42 am Been on short term twice and long once. Moved recently to be closer to supports but I don't qualify for those benefits in my new job. long term is not actually a long term solution. As a society we don't exactly just hand out money to people that can't produce. I feel like I have 0 value
You just haven't found the right path yet.
Don't overthink the problem, just keep trying.
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Re: Cons and libertarians, riddle me this
I'm sorry to hear. A bipolar condition is challenging.BenRutgers wrote: ↑Jun 15th, 2021, 8:38 am To all cons and libertarians I have a question about how I fit into your world view. I am an otherwise healthy male that has bipolar 2 and it prevents me from working 80% of the time. I have sought all sorts of treatment and found the effects minimal. I feel that since I cannot work I am a burden to society. Why, in your world view, should I keep going and do I have any value as a person that cannot contribute
I'm not quite sure what role politics would have to play in your well-being. In a free country and market we carve out our own future as best we can. We cheer on our neighbors and don't look down on anyone whether they do better or worse. All Canadians agree that a social net should be available to help those who need it. Most people do not look down on those who need help.
Feelings just react to what you think. No one considers you a burden as Canadians are more than willing to help despite any political leaning. So many things are distractions to your goals. Don't worry about what others might think as you could probably be wrong about it. Put careful thought in to your future and how you want to live it and those in your life will help you get there. There's no rush so don't feel pressured. Set small goals for yourself and try to conquer the beast in your path and you may discover new talents along the way.
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If your mental illness had led you to homelessness, addiction, and antisocial behaviour, the same people making supportive comments would advocate somewhere between permanent incarceration and death. So it's good that you (presumably) haven't fallen that far down the social ladder.
People will generally function at the highest level they can, whether that equals great personal and professional success, or wandering the streets screaming at the voices in their head.
People will generally function at the highest level they can, whether that equals great personal and professional success, or wandering the streets screaming at the voices in their head.
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Why do you think that working is the only way people contribute? No libertarians or conservative I've ever heard of looks down on people who can't work full time hours. " I feel that since I cannot work I am a burden to society", well that is your viewpoint, not others. Do your best, that's all anyone of us can doBenRutgers wrote: ↑Jun 15th, 2021, 8:38 am To all cons and libertarians I have a question about how I fit into your world view. I am an otherwise healthy male that has bipolar 2 and it prevents me from working 80% of the time. I have sought all sorts of treatment and found the effects minimal. I feel that since I cannot work I am a burden to society. Why, in your world view, should I keep going and do I have any value as a person that cannot contribute