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oldtrucker wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 12:03 pm ^^^Like^^^
Today I got up at sunrise ,grabbed a rifle and went up a forestry road. I do the same thing just about every day....too hot any other time of day. If I couldn't do that anymore until fall....well, that would just suck. Back country is my natural habitat.....you wouldn't want a animal like me cooped up and wandering the streets here in town would you?
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seewood wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 7:31 pm I'd like to see barriers on some roads around here. Lots of green forest above us and would like to keep it that way. Lightening strikes? have to have a storm first. Lots of motor cycles, quads, side by sides roaming the hills. Close them until a decent rain happens.
They were closed in 2003 and manned/security 24/7, wonder if that is being considered now?
Like so true...I was driving by Mt Boucherie trail head last Saturday around 7pm and out comes two guys with Mountain bike....wait a second...they were not mountain bike they were dirt bikes...like WHAT? on a trail that people walk on...holy cow!
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Sparki55 wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 11:51 am Just came back from an amazing back roads trip.

Spark arrestor on my bike.

Some of you on here don't understand life.

You'll never ban me from the Backcountry under the premise I'll accidentally or on purpose start a fire.

The summer is when the Backcountry is most important. I'll stay out of the way of fire crews and respect all fire bans and ensure my equipment is safe. Beyond that the rest of you authoritarian jerks can pound sand.
All it takes is that one accident.
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Boosted632 wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 6:20 pm What do you need a rifle for?
What do you need a hockey stick, baseball bat, rollerblades, scrapbooking kit, stamp collection, or TV for?
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Boosted632 wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 6:20 pm What do you need a rifle for?
For some of us, it's the same as taking a bottle of water or a hat or a tube of sunscreen or a walking stick.

It's a tool used by outdoorspeople. If you don't want one, fine, but don't judge the rest of us.
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Symbonite wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 9:06 pm All it takes is that one accident.
Riding a motorcycle on a gravel road has such a small chance of starting a fire, it's almost zero.

If you think we need to go as far as banning travel to the backcountry then we also need to ban the following:
- hiking on trails, never know if a smoker will go for a hike and drop a but.
- no traveling on remote BC highways, too much chance for a smoker to drop by and light up the place. A stay in your local area must be enforced.
- Sale of all flammable material ceasing until the fire ban is over. No lighters, wood, matches, firestarter, etc. The only exception is a BBQ or hot water tank sparker, with no flame.
- No propane backyard or camping firepits, while safe they can be knocked over, or if being dumb and cooking over them the grease can start a larger fire.

So yes, all it takes is one accident. I draw the line at no campfires and correct safety equipment on equipment traveling in remote areas. You can choose to not think about the impact and risk of each activity and agree to ban all the ones you don't do but that is just lazy thinking.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 10:52 am
Boosted632 wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 6:20 pm What do you need a rifle for?
For some of us, it's the same as taking a bottle of water or a hat or a tube of sunscreen or a walking stick.

It's a tool used by outdoorspeople. If you don't want one, fine, but don't judge the rest of us.
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Kinda hard to go shooting without a rifle.
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There are actually experienced outdoorspeople who know how to be safe in the wilderness, and can function in a fire watch role as well. Carrying a firearm is just a tool, no different than an axe, fire extinguisher or a spare tire. Personally, I'm
not heading out to some areas for now as there is only one way in and out; and I have enough common sense to know that the safety margins are razor thin.

Backcountry fires will happen- even if they shut it down. Dangerous interface fires- right on top of us- will continue as people are simply not fire smart. my.02, ymmv
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Ah yes the old mantra of ceasing to live life by trying to stop life from happening in order to have a nice comfy warm sense of safety. Why live life when you are alive? Too much risk.
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KiloHotel wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 3:18 pm Ah yes the old mantra of ceasing to live life by trying to stop life from happening in order to have a nice comfy warm sense of safety. Why live life when you are alive? Too much risk.
Yup, people loosing their homes. Its all good so you can have your s'mores :up:
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OKkayak wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 5:36 pm
KiloHotel wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 3:18 pm Ah yes the old mantra of ceasing to live life by trying to stop life from happening in order to have a nice comfy warm sense of safety. Why live life when you are alive? Too much risk.
Yup, people loosing their homes. Its all good so you can have your s'mores :up:
Defend your home, get home insurance, get a rooftop sprinkler. Don't make your responsibilities, mine.
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oldtrucker wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 11:05 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 10:52 am

For some of us, it's the same as taking a bottle of water or a hat or a tube of sunscreen or a walking stick.

It's a tool used by outdoorspeople. If you don't want one, fine, but don't judge the rest of us.
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Kinda hard to go shooting without a rifle.
You didnt say you were going shooting its not hunting season so no need for a rifle unless you're going shooting i guess. I spend lots of time in the woods as well but dont usually bring one of my guns if i dont have a tag for something. Anyway it was just a question no need for folks to get so defensive im not trying to take your guns away that would be our priminster that no one admits to voting for.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 10:52 am
Boosted632 wrote: Jul 19th, 2021, 6:20 pm What do you need a rifle for?
For some of us, it's the same as taking a bottle of water or a hat or a tube of sunscreen or a walking stick.

It's a tool used by outdoorspeople. If you don't want one, fine, but don't judge the rest of us.
Not judging easy big fella i have guns and hunt
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KiloHotel wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 5:47 pm
OKkayak wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 5:36 pm
Yup, people loosing their homes. Its all good so you can have your s'mores :up:
Defend your home, get home insurance, get a rooftop sprinkler. Don't make your responsibilities, mine.
"Rooftop sprinklers void home insurance. The damage is caused by the home owner not the fire. Better off to let it burn. And to all those out in the back country, bring a shovel and a fire extinguisher. If you can't be bothered you don't belong out there.
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KiloHotel wrote: Jul 20th, 2021, 5:47 pm Defend your home, get home insurance, get a rooftop sprinkler. Don't make your responsibilities, mine.
Clearly you have no idea what it's like when a wildfire comes through. Defending your home is impossible.

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