Covid protests and the media

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Nursing shortages/burnout seem to be a problem.
For those that consider it part of the problem, nurses in Ontario are protesting this morning.
Wages frozen by the government; chronic short staffing and budget restraints.
Is this part of a much bigger problem?
I think so. :135:
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I listened to some people talking about the shortage/burnout issue on the radio this morning. A couple of points brought up were 1.) Even though they've known it was coming for years, the aging boomer thing has wreaked havoc on the labour supply, and now is contributing to the overload on the health system, and 2.) Nurses are electing to drop to part-time or casual status as the stress has become intolerable.
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Sounds like privatized healthcare might be a solution, considering how badly the government has f'd up with the pandemic, and underfunding healthcare before the pandemic
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Privatized health care?
We already have it...sort of.
MRI's at @700 a pop;
Private operating rooms at the top of Kelowna Health building on Richter;If you think it is bad now, the government is bringing to Canada 300 thousand immigrants this year, more next.
Didn't we also hear that 70 thousand Afghan refugees are being welcomed to Canada?
Too many people going to the hospital that don't need to.Many just don't take care of their bodies.
In Kelowna, visitors who don't have B.C. medical coverage, get treated, and then don't pay the bill.
Interior Health attempts to collect the millions owed, but often is not that successful.
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Unread post by Mrmarvingardens » 24 minutes ago

Privatized health care?
We already have it...sort of.
Not "sort of" ...

Injure myself at work and it's bought and paid for by WorkSafeBC in less than 6 weeks .. With cab fare to AND from the surgical suits on Richter, meds , home support and all the bells and whistles all paid for .

Do the same thing at home and it's a 6 month wait . No support ,day surgery at the hospital only if you have your own ride home and a two week waiting period for medical EI ..

Privatized health care has been here for years
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Some good reading here.
Say maybe it is time for protesters to read "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky. :smt045
Believe it is long out of print, but, Maybe a borrow from U.B.C. library?
Judging from the local talk show host on AM 1150, referring to people as ignorant, not knowing a thing about Ivermectin, until informed by a listener; another advocating water cannon use against protesters; refusal to treat Covid patients; or to make them pay for treatment,I think society(Kelowna at least) is beginning to unravel.
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jcdenton wrote: Sep 9th, 2021, 7:49 pm Sounds like privatized healthcare might be a solution, considering how badly the government has f'd up with the pandemic, and underfunding healthcare before the pandemic
At least the rich will be taken care of.
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jcdenton wrote: Sep 9th, 2021, 7:49 pm Sounds like privatized healthcare might be a solution, considering how badly the government has f'd up with the pandemic, and underfunding healthcare before the pandemic
Look how those privatized long term care homes have worked out for us ...
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spooker wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 10:23 am Look how those privatized long term care homes have worked out for us ...
Lack of government regulation is to blame.

Imagine thinking air travel wasn't safe and the government should take it over, no we have transport Canada to deal with that.

Just open a task force to enforce regulation, not government takeover.
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Sparki55 wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 10:25 am
spooker wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 10:23 am Look how those privatized long term care homes have worked out for us ...
Lack of government regulation is to blame.

Imagine thinking air travel wasn't safe and the government should take it over, no we have transport Canada to deal with that.

Just open a task force to enforce regulation, not government takeover.
Not a good comparison ... luxury (air travel) vs necessity (medical care)? just look at the U.S. and how putting a necessity like medical care into the hands of business has worked out for them ...
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spooker wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:25 am Not a good comparison ... luxury (air travel) vs necessity (medical care)? just look at the U.S. and how putting a necessity like medical care into the hands of business has worked out for them ...
The US is a great example to argue against private healthcare. There are other mixed systems that work as well, these articles are worth a read if even to just browse the intro, conclusions and Switzerland / Germany's systems.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... acket.html
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 1420966976
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Sparki55 wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:37 am
spooker wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:25 am Not a good comparison ... luxury (air travel) vs necessity (medical care)? just look at the U.S. and how putting a necessity like medical care into the hands of business has worked out for them ...
The US is a great example to argue against private healthcare. There are other mixed systems that work as well, these articles are worth a read if even to just browse the intro, conclusions and Switzerland / Germany's systems.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... acket.html
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 1420966976
It's interesting to note that when you look at the % of GDP spent on healthcare here's how things stack up:
UK - 10.0%
CA - 10.8%
DE - 11.4%
CH - 11.9%
US - 16.9%

I've always been a fan of NHS ...
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Massive protests around the world today against vac mandates and protests.
Msm will say they were small and in the hundreds.
Same as over 12000 mainly haitans crossing over from Mexico into the USA.
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its pretty clear the media is controlled by the govt when it comes to anything covid related
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