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Virginia School System Deflects Charges It Covered Up Rape of Ninth Grade Girl by ‘Gender-Fluid’ Boy

Loudoun County Public Schools in Northern Virginia is being accused of covering up allegations that a boy in late May sexually assaulted a ninth grade girl in her school’s restroom—the nightmare scenario so often described by opponents of radical transgender school policies.

The school system allegedly covered up the incident by transferring the male student to a neighboring school where police said he was arrested after sexually assaulting another student.

In a statement to The Daily Signal on Wednesday, Loudoun County Public Schools defended itself from accusations that it improperly handled two sexual assaults in its school buildings.

However, the statement notably did not express sympathy toward or compassion for crime victims or their families.

“Loudoun County Public Schools is aware of the media and social media reports concerning alleged sexual assaults at two of our high school campuses,” the official statement says. “While LCPS takes student privacy seriously and cannot reveal details concerning the actions of any specific student, we do want to clarify our investigative process.”

The school system’s statement says that officials followed legal processes and reported the alleged assaults to law enforcement.
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Conservative Loudoun County parents clash with Democratic activist
Heated exchange broke out as activist accused conservative parents of engaging in a 'witch hunt'


A woman who is a member of the Loudoun County Democratic Committee (LCDC) got into a heated exchange with a group of conservative activist parents in Loudoun County, Va., Thursday afternoon as controversy swirls around at least one alleged sexual assault in the school district and other charged political controversies.

The back-and-forth happened at a Fight for Schools event led by GOP activist Ian Prior, which was attended by about two dozen other people. The event was held in front of the Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS) administrative building.

As Prior detailed a series of allegations against LCPS and called for the superintendent to resign – and for the Department of Justice to start a Title IX investigation into the school district – the woman stood off behind the cameras without significantly disrupting the proceedings.

But throughout the event, she repeatedly interrupted Prior by shouting questions or interjections like, "Why would you assume that?"
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 7:45 pm
Virginia School System Deflects Charges It Covered Up Rape of Ninth Grade Girl by ‘Gender-Fluid’ Boy

Loudoun County Public Schools in Northern Virginia is being accused of covering up allegations that a boy in late May sexually assaulted a ninth grade girl in her school’s restroom—the nightmare scenario so often described by opponents of radical transgender school policies.

The school system allegedly covered up the incident by transferring the male student to a neighboring school where police said he was arrested after sexually assaulting another student.

In a statement to The Daily Signal on Wednesday, Loudoun County Public Schools defended itself from accusations that it improperly handled two sexual assaults in its school buildings.

However, the statement notably did not express sympathy toward or compassion for crime victims or their families.

“Loudoun County Public Schools is aware of the media and social media reports concerning alleged sexual assaults at two of our high school campuses,” the official statement says. “While LCPS takes student privacy seriously and cannot reveal details concerning the actions of any specific student, we do want to clarify our investigative process.”

The school system’s statement says that officials followed legal processes and reported the alleged assaults to law enforcement.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/10/13/ ... fluid-boy/
sadly it was just a matter of time, and sadly this will be the new norm :swear: :cuss:
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I personally find the real issue is not reporting this person to the authorities after the first assault. The state of the bathrooms do not matter (i am assuming they are against mixed bathrooms), it is the fact that someone thought it was alright for them to do what they want with someone else's body.
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None of this should ever have happened in the first place. It's the result of bad policy implemented to appease people who are too unconcerned about the consequences of their actions at the expense of the students.

It should never have been swept under the carpet when it did happen.
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AlienSoldier wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 8:03 am I personally find the real issue is not reporting this person to the authorities after the first assault. The state of the bathrooms do not matter (i am assuming they are against mixed bathrooms), it is the fact that someone thought it was alright for them to do what they want with someone else's body.
It was reported:
The school system’s statement says that officials followed legal processes and reported the alleged assaults to law enforcement.

“Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office was contacted within minutes of receiving the initial report on May 28,” the LCPS statement says, adding:
This isn't about mixed bathrooms. It's about the consequences of bad political decisions:
The victim’s father, Scott Smith, told The Daily Wire that in late May, a boy dressed in a skirt entered a girls restroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn, Virginia, and sexually assaulted his ninth grade daughter.

SNIP

“I don’t care if he’s homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, transsexual. He’s a sexual predator,” Smith said of his daughter’s attacker.

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The Daily Wire confirmed through a public records request that a May 28 police report exists detailing forcible sodomy and sexual battery at Stone Bridge High School.

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The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office confirmed to The Daily Signal on Wednesday that the Stone Bridge High School assault case was reported to the Loudoun County school resource officer on May 28 by school personnel.

The school district quietly transferred the teenage suspect to Broad Run High School after the alleged assault, Rosiak reported.

That suggests that Loudoun County Public Schools Superintendent Scott Ziegler may have lied when he said at the June 22 school board meeting that “the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist,” adding: “We don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms.”

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“Even if they were completely out of touch and did not know” of the incidents, Prior told The Daily Signal, “the fact that the board was passing a policy that would allow biological males to use girls’ bathrooms, it was incumbent on them to investigate before voting for that policy.”

“At best,” he said, “this is incompetence and neglect of duty on their part.”
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rustled wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 8:13 am
AlienSoldier wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 8:03 am I personally find the real issue is not reporting this person to the authorities after the first assault. The state of the bathrooms do not matter (i am assuming they are against mixed bathrooms), it is the fact that someone thought it was alright for them to do what they want with someone else's body.
It was reported:
The school system’s statement says that officials followed legal processes and reported the alleged assaults to law enforcement.

“Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office was contacted within minutes of receiving the initial report on May 28,” the LCPS statement says, adding:
This isn't about mixed bathrooms. It's about the consequences of bad political decisions:
The victim’s father, Scott Smith, told The Daily Wire that in late May, a boy dressed in a skirt entered a girls restroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn, Virginia, and sexually assaulted his ninth grade daughter.

SNIP

“I don’t care if he’s homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, transsexual. He’s a sexual predator,” Smith said of his daughter’s attacker.

SNIP

The Daily Wire confirmed through a public records request that a May 28 police report exists detailing forcible sodomy and sexual battery at Stone Bridge High School.

SNIP

The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office confirmed to The Daily Signal on Wednesday that the Stone Bridge High School assault case was reported to the Loudoun County school resource officer on May 28 by school personnel.

The school district quietly transferred the teenage suspect to Broad Run High School after the alleged assault, Rosiak reported.

That suggests that Loudoun County Public Schools Superintendent Scott Ziegler may have lied when he said at the June 22 school board meeting that “the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist,” adding: “We don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms.”

SNIP

“Even if they were completely out of touch and did not know” of the incidents, Prior told The Daily Signal, “the fact that the board was passing a policy that would allow biological males to use girls’ bathrooms, it was incumbent on them to investigate before voting for that policy.”

“At best,” he said, “this is incompetence and neglect of duty on their part.”
It was reported to the School Resource officer. Why was the student not expelled, instead of transferring the student. Also the school superintendent should have not covered this up, they should definitely be fired. The last part states that they believe this relates directly to the the policy of transgenders using the bathroom of their choice. Even if the bathrooms were not mixed, this boy could still enter and assault someone. The real problem is this person thinking they have the right to assault someone and getting away with it until the second assault occurred. It's obvious this writer is trying to stitch their opinion that mixed bathrooms are harmful to an assault. Which is shameful as they are using the harm done to a young person for their own ideological gain.
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AlienSoldier wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 8:56 am
rustled wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 8:13 am
It was reported:


This isn't about mixed bathrooms. It's about the consequences of bad political decisions:
It was reported to the School Resource officer.
And:
Loudoun County Sheriff’s Officewas contacted within minutes of receiving the initial report on May 28
AlienSoldier wrote:Why was the student not expelled, instead of transferring the student. Also the school superintendent should have not covered this up, they should definitely be fired. The last part states that they believe this relates directly to the the policy of transgenders using the bathroom of their choice. Even if the bathrooms were not mixed, this boy could still enter and assault someone. The real problem is this person thinking they have the right to assault someone and getting away with it until the second assault occurred. It's obvious this writer is trying to stitch their opinion that mixed bathrooms are harmful to an assault. Which is shameful as they are using the harm done to a young person for their own ideological gain.
This isn't a one-off, AlienSoldier. It is a single example of badly thought out policy, intended to appease.

Of course the predators are taking advantage.

I've talked to people who work in women's shelters who are appalled that they have to accommodate men who self-identify as women, regardless of the consequences for everyone else.

When the inevitable happens, in prisons and shelters and public schools, the people who know are expected to help cover it up.

That IS the problem. These policies put women and girls at greater risk, and those who don't want us to re-think bad policy are covering it up.
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rustled wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 9:05 am
This isn't a one-off, AlienSoldier. It is a single example of badly thought out policy, intended to appease.

Of course the predators are taking advantage.

I've talked to people who work in women's shelters who are appalled that they have to accommodate men who self-identify as women, regardless of the consequences for everyone else.

When the inevitable happens, in prisons and shelters and public schools, the people who know are expected to help cover it up.

That IS the problem. These policies put women and girls at greater risk, and those who don't want us to re-think bad policy are covering it up.
By that statement airplanes, trains, and a multitude of other places should chain their bathrooms as they are shared.

A sign on a door does not really stop people or present a barrier to stopping people from assaulting or going into a bathroom they are not supposed to be in. I've seen mixed bathrooms that seem safer than separate bathrooms, as they are each individual bathrooms with proper locks and doors. Maybe this school needs to not just change the sign on the doors, but actually bathrooms design.

The one thing that we both agree on is the fact this should never be covered up and the individual, no matter what gender they are part of should be held to the full account of the law. The school officer should definitely have taken action.
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"Leftist disaster" is alarmist and aimed to manipulate a particular type of reader. I hope no one here is drawn in that easily.

The washrooms at my son's school don't even have doors, just an S-shaped entryway like you see in newer public washrooms, Orchard Park Mall for example.

If the child is a predator as described, they didn't need permission to use a certain washroom to commit a crime. There are countless opportunities to strike within a school if a student, staff member, or parent wishes to do so. If this student's gender status influenced how the first assault was handled, then by all means deal with those responsible. But the "transgenders in the washroom" angle will have Rightists foaming at the mouth, and it's not fair to manipulate them that way.
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rustled wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 9:05 am This isn't a one-off, AlienSoldier. It is a single example of badly thought out policy, intended to appease.

Of course the predators are taking advantage.

I've talked to people who work in women's shelters who are appalled that they have to accommodate men who self-identify as women, regardless of the consequences for everyone else.

When the inevitable happens, in prisons and shelters and public schools, the people who know are expected to help cover it up.

That IS the problem. These policies put women and girls at greater risk, and those who don't want us to re-think bad policy are covering it up.
Where are the other reports of this occurring? I'd push back on the fact that these policies help more than endanger the population ... and what we know about sexual predators is that they're all about the power trip, if that's what they decide they need they'll figure out a way to get it satisfied, policy or no ...

Women and girls are at greater risk because of what we see on the news, see in the movies, and let slide because of celebrity ... the verdict on R Kelly was finally something useful ...
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AlienSoldier wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 9:30 am
rustled wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 9:05 am
This isn't a one-off, AlienSoldier. It is a single example of badly thought out policy, intended to appease.

Of course the predators are taking advantage.

I've talked to people who work in women's shelters who are appalled that they have to accommodate men who self-identify as women, regardless of the consequences for everyone else.

When the inevitable happens, in prisons and shelters and public schools, the people who know are expected to help cover it up.

That IS the problem. These policies put women and girls at greater risk, and those who don't want us to re-think bad policy are covering it up.
By that statement airplanes, trains, and a multitude of other places should chain their bathrooms as they are shared.
And individually controlled space isn't the same though, is it? Think of Chevron stations' facilities, where some are an individual unisex units with toilet and sink, some are standard multi-stall units with sinks in the shared space.

All of them have pros and cons in terms of safety, as do the washroom facilities in public schools.
AlienSoldier wrote:A sign on a door does not really stop people or present a barrier to stopping people from assaulting or going into a bathroom they are not supposed to be in. I've seen mixed bathrooms that seem safer than separate bathrooms, as they are each individual bathrooms with proper locks and doors. Maybe this school needs to not just change the sign on the doors, but actually bathrooms design.
What's different in our public schools is the rest of the rules around who gets to do what, and the consequences for not following those expectations. Physical assaults have happened in public school washrooms - let's not pretend these have ever been perfectly safe places. Our objective ought to be making them as safe as reasonably possible, and not ignoring the consequences of policies that make them less safe.

Reality is, most teenage boys are stronger than most teenage girls.

Once a boy using the girls' washroom has become an "unquestionable" event, a predator in the student body is presented with a greater opportunity than he had previously.
AlienSoldier wrote:The one thing that we both agree on is the fact this should never be covered up and the individual, no matter what gender they are part of should be held to the full account of the law. The school officer should definitely have taken action.
I'd bet that's not the only thing we agree on. It seems to me we'd likely agree there are likely safer ways to deal with the issue of school washrooms for public school students who identify as non-binary.

The primary problem here is the way the initial assault was dealt with BECAUSE of the way it would spotlight how this policy DOES provide easier access for predators.
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JayByrd wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 9:35 am "Leftist disaster" is alarmist and aimed to manipulate a particular type of reader. I hope no one here is drawn in that easily.

The washrooms at my son's school don't even have doors, just an S-shaped entryway like you see in newer public washrooms, Orchard Park Mall for example.
This was introduced in some places as a safety measure. Making public washrooms safer spaces should be seen as a reasonable objective, regardless of one's political persuasion.
JayByrd wrote:If the child is a predator as described, they didn't need permission to use a certain washroom to commit a crime.
Of course not. No one's saying that.

The question is, are the schools making it easier for a predator? That's a legitimate question, regardless of one's political persuasion.
JayByrd wrote:There are countless opportunities to strike within a school if a student, staff member, or parent wishes to do so. If this student's gender status influenced how the first assault was handled, then by all means deal with those responsible. But the "transgenders in the washroom" angle will have Rightists foaming at the mouth, and it's not fair to manipulate them that way.
IMO, you're using manipulative accusations and political speculations and biased assumptions to prevent people from asking legitimate questions and discussing the policy itself. That's not fair, either.

Is this policy providing greater opportunities for predators? How can we make public school washrooms safer for everyone?
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rustled wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 9:51 am
Once a boy using the girls' washroom has become an "unquestionable" event, a predator in the student body is presented with a greater opportunity than he had previously.

When you say boy, do you mean boy or trans girl?
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