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Postby Able » Sep 8th, 2018, 5:36 pm

Is anyone else concerned that the Govt. is slowly pricing hunters out of the sport through its continuous requirements to take more and more hunter/gun safety courses? This latest P.A.L. requirement is not only expensive but also time consuming. I don't have a problem with safety courses for first time hunters but it seems that the Govt. is trying to drive hunters out of the bush through ever increasing costs.
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Re: Hunting

Postby seewood » Sep 9th, 2018, 9:28 am

^^^^ Not sure here.
I believe I paid $125 for the PAL 11 hour course a year or two ago as I let my previous one expire. Not a big issue to me. If I wanted my restricted then it cost a bit more and another day. Good thing really to have these courses in place.
I understand if I renew before expiry then I don't have to take the course again.
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Re: Hunting

Postby Vulcanite » Nov 7th, 2018, 8:47 pm

I didn't mine taking the courses or the price and time involved. I learned a lot and feel better prepared for when I do have opportunities to go hunting. In any endeavor there are costs involved. Both in money and time. One just has to weigh the costs versus enjoyment to determine if it's worth it.
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Re: Hunting

Postby Brushy Bill » Dec 3rd, 2018, 6:18 pm

Expensive? Time consuming?
Better take up a different passtime
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Re: Hunting

Postby vegas1500 » Dec 3rd, 2018, 6:42 pm

Able wrote:Is anyone else concerned that the Govt. is slowly pricing hunters out of the sport through its continuous requirements to take more and more hunter/gun safety courses? This latest P.A.L. requirement is not only expensive but also time consuming. I don't have a problem with safety courses for first time hunters but it seems that the Govt. is trying to drive hunters out of the bush through ever increasing costs.


Nope

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Re: Hunting

Postby Fancy » Dec 3rd, 2018, 11:22 pm

Able wrote:Is anyone else concerned that the Govt. is slowly pricing hunters out of the sport through its continuous requirements to take more and more hunter/gun safety courses? This latest P.A.L. requirement is not only expensive but also time consuming. I don't have a problem with safety courses for first time hunters but it seems that the Govt. is trying to drive hunters out of the bush through ever increasing costs.
Kinda wondering what's the "more and more" you're talking about? In 30 years there's only a couple of courses I needed to take.
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Re: Hunting

Postby KTM Kid » Jan 18th, 2019, 5:06 pm

I don't think the courses are really that much of an issue. PAL for safety with firearms, while the CORE helps everyone identify an animal properly so there's fewer(in a perfect world....none) shot and left in the bush.
My issue is the the Regs themselves. For examples, I don't like these 4-pt or better Mule, spiked bull moose, or 6-pt or better bull elk seasons. Why, because I think it's leading to a lot more game being misidentified through a scope, shot, and then left. Now I know there's going to be a lot of guys that are going to say.... slow it down....take a second look before you do anything.
I agree 100%, but things are not always this black and white in the field, and mistakes can be made by the best of us in the heat moment.
I would support a change to the regs that would allow for general seasons for any buck or bull, and in exchange shorten the existing season to manage the number of game taken.
Thoughts?
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Re: Hunting

Postby seewood » Jan 18th, 2019, 5:32 pm

KTM Kid wrote: would support a change to the regs that would allow for general seasons for any buck or bull, and in exchange shorten the existing season to manage the number of game taken.Thoughts?


On weekends it is a nut house out there over two months in easier to get to places.
I'm thinking this is done to give hunters that like taking nice 2-3 points with decent meat and also allowing hunters that like big stinky 4-5 points. :D
What time of year would the shortened season be? Earlier and game is high or hiding in the cool timber, later and hunters can be dealing with snow and shutting them out. ( generalization)
I suspect this has been thought out and the ladies and gents in the offices have tried to provide the best they can for hunters and game population control.
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Re: Hunting

Postby Brushy Bill » Mar 26th, 2019, 7:17 pm

yeah, balancing opportunity with protection of breeding stock levels

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Re: Hunting

Postby Brushy Bill » May 26th, 2019, 2:51 am

speaking of hunting, is anyone else enjoying fresh bear meat on the bbq this spring?
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Re: Hunting

Postby Country plough boy » May 26th, 2019, 7:25 am

Gun laws are ridiculous. Its all a scam. To disarm a docile population. Wake up.
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Re: Hunting

Postby JLives » May 26th, 2019, 7:48 am

Country plough boy wrote:Gun laws are ridiculous. Its all a scam. To disarm a docile population. Wake up.


Put the tinfoil hat down buddy. It's relatively simple to get a license and purchase a firearm in our country. We're not eliminating guns in our country, we just reasonably regulate them.
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Re: Hunting

Postby Country plough boy » May 26th, 2019, 8:13 am

JLives wrote:
Country plough boy wrote:Gun laws are ridiculous. Its all a scam. To disarm a docile population. Wake up.


Put the tinfoil hat down buddy. It's relatively simple to get a license and purchase a firearm in our country. We're not eliminating guns in our country, we just reasonably regulate them.


There is zero reason in our firearms laws
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Re: Hunting

Postby t76turbo » Jun 10th, 2019, 8:16 am

Yeah!
For instance, after using my ruger 10/22 for last 30 years I just found out that any high capacity magazines are now taboo and classified as a prohibited device. Remember, it’s completely legal to own high-capacity magazines for rim fires. Just not the 10/22 now.
One would think a notice would go out to all PAL holders notifying them of the change, but no...it’s only the most popular.22 in North America!
Found out through word of mouth. Basically a firearm owner goes from being completely legal one day to being arrested overnight and jailed for having a piece of plastic sitting in your gun safe for the past 10 years.

Yeah, Canadian gun laws make sense....
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Re: Hunting

Postby seewood » Jun 10th, 2019, 5:40 pm

t76turbo wrote:For instance, after using my ruger 10/22 for last 30 years I just found out that any high capacity magazines are now taboo and classified as a prohibited device. Remember, it’s completely legal to own high-capacity magazines for rim fires. Just not the 10/22 now.


The way I read it was any magazine for rim fire that was compatible with a pistol was limited to 10 rounds. I think Browning and Remington had straight magazines that might have been compatible with their rifles and pistols for example.
That was why one could purchase a 25 round magazine for their 10/22 or now A17( have one). No pistol I know of will accept one of those mags. Uh wrong, see below.

t76turbo wrote:Found out through word of mouth

I'd check on that or pop into a reputable gun store or phone to see what they have to say.
Current Issues

1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns

Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.

[b]Ok now after further snooping: Specifically, paragraph 3 (1)(b) of the Regulations prohibit a cartridge magazine that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.

22 Long Rifle calibre magazines designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform rifles are also inherently designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform handguns. Because 22 Long Rifle calibre 10/22 platform magazines are designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun, they are prohibited devices if they are capable of containing more than 10 cartridges. The 10 cartridge limit for the 10/22 platform applies irrespective of the type of firearm it is used in.

Now, I did not realize there is a 10/22 hand gun out there. So why do gun stores still sell the 25 round 22LR magazines, or do they?

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