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Re: Why don't RCMP do a better job enforcing traffic rules?

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Well, not everybody can afford brand new cars that reflect your high standards for personal vehicles.


LTD wrote:I used see more junk around here In the late eighties when there was half the population than I do now
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TylerM4 wrote:
What_the wrote:No disrespect, but how about we anticipate and assume that those in field of view:
are going to turn, brake, not signal, cut you off, speed, run yellows, walk across... etc. ?

You know, expect that this is how people drive/ride/walk.

Driving without due care and attention is what, $600? Distraction $389?
Immediate road side prohibition, approaching $4000 (towing, impound, administrative)

It all still happens no matter how aggressive enforcement is.

Deal with that fact and take care of your self by assuming it's going to go badly.
Makes life easier, honest.


There's a term for what you describe - "Defensive driving". I think everyone will agree it's good practice.

So your position is that the RCMP isn't enforcing these rules because we should all be driving defensively and therefore the rules aren't needed? Why do we have them at all then? How does defensive driving prevent a pedestrian from getting hit by another driver passing on the right? How does it prevent getting rear-ended by a distracted driver?


I'm saying that I think the allotment of officers is more than sufficient and that other RCMP have better things to do with their valuable time. I'm saying that most of us already are reasonably safe. If we are to hire more officers or pay over time, I'd rather them be looking for online child pornographers, murderers and rapists etc. The heinous stuff, right?

There's a finite budget available, right?

As for "defensive driving", no I really don't think people know or understand what that really means.
I can't prevent any one from doing anything, nor can the police no matter how many we throw at it. It's much more systemic than that.
Would so rather be over educated that a knuckle dragging Neanderthal bereft of critical thought and imagination. Although in the case of Neanderthals, that's quite the insult.
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Re: Why don't RCMP do a better job enforcing traffic rules?

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LTD wrote:I used see more junk around here In the late eighties when there was half the population than I do now

Umm, congratulations?

I don't care what you saw in the late 80s. I don't care what you see today. I just care what I see :up:
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Even Steven wrote:Well, not everybody can afford brand new cars that reflect your high standards for personal vehicles.


LTD wrote:I used see more junk around here In the late eighties when there was half the population than I do now

are you directing that at me if so you couldn't be more wrong I don't care what people drive and I'm not the one complaining about junkers
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LTD wrote:seriously I think you might overdoing it somewhat most of the vehicles around here are pretty new and most of the lifted trucks you see are more than likely legal and mudflaps for the hundredth time are only mandatory on commercial vehicles you guys just like to *bleep* about everything ,wannabe traffic cops

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ponch is probably more fitting
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LTD wrote:ponch is probably more fitting

Dang it, you're right!

It was time to change my avatar anyways :biggrin:
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LTD wrote:seriously I think you might overdoing it somewhat most of the vehicles around here are pretty new and most of the lifted trucks you see are more than likely legal and mudflaps for the hundredth time are only mandatory on commercial vehicles you guys just like to *bleep* about everything ,wannabe traffic cops



Good lord! Not again? For the love of God.

This is not restricted to commercial vehicles:

BC MVA....

Mud flaps.

7.06 Every motor vehicle, trailer and semitrailer not constructed so that the spray and splash of water and mud to the rear of the vehicle is minimized shall be equipped with mudguards and, if necessary, mudflaps.
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Mud flaps.

The abomination of today's world.

All our attention should be focused on mud flaps!!!!

LOL.
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Even Steven wrote:Mud flaps.

The abomination of today's world.

No, that would be front plates ;)

Btw, thanks for the link - I appreciated that :)
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lightspeed wrote:
LTD wrote:seriously I think you might overdoing it somewhat most of the vehicles around here are pretty new and most of the lifted trucks you see are more than likely legal and mudflaps for the hundredth time are only mandatory on commercial vehicles you guys just like to *bleep* about everything ,wannabe traffic cops



Good lord! Not again? For the love of God.

This is not restricted to commercial vehicles:

BC MVA....

Mud flaps.

7.06 Every motor vehicle, trailer and semitrailer not constructed so that the spray and splash of water and mud to the rear of the vehicle is minimized shall be equipped with mudguards and, if necessary, mudflaps.

for the love of god what efin part of only mandatory on commercial vehicles don't you get, all passenger vehicles have fenders that's what is required to minimize spray of mud and water
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Its not just commercials. I'm not sure why you don't read the MVA for clarification?

Then you add a lift kit and 35's to a stock truck or jeep and bingo you have 80% of tread on show and shower me with rocks and spray.

We can agree to disagree. I know it's ticketable.
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LTD wrote:I'm not sure where you drive that you see all these illegally modified vehicles and how do you know they require maintenance

It seems less common today but I have seen:
muffler dragging on the ground,
total absence of tail lights
burned out head lights
only high beams, no low beams
so much smoke you can barely see the car
and that is just on my street.
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LTD wrote:seriously I think you might overdoing it somewhat most of the vehicles around here are pretty new and most of the lifted trucks you see are more than likely legal and mudflaps for the hundredth time are only mandatory on commercial vehicles you guys just like to *bleep* about everything ,wannabe traffic cops

OK, had enough misinformation, had to reply.

"most of the lifted trucks you see are more than likely legal" -

Actually, almost all the lifted trucks, if they are lifted over 4", (technically 10 cm) are not legal, they must be inspected and then given a "modified" status on their registration.

    Application
    25.20 This Part applies to a vehicle that was
    .......
    (b) altered by changes to its suspension height by more than 10 cm from the original basic specification of the vehicle manufacturer,

    Limitation on operation
    25.21 A person must not drive, operate or park a vehicle on a highway until it has been presented to a designated inspection facility and an approved certificate of mechanical condition in a form set by the director has been issued in respect of the vehicle by an authorized person.


"mudflaps for the hundredth time are only mandatory on commercial vehicles you guys just like to *bleep* about everything" -

I suggest you read the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations, particularly section 7.06

    Mudguards
    7.06 Every motor vehicle, trailer and semitrailer not constructed so that the spray and splash of water and mud to the rear of the vehicle is minimized shall be equipped with mudguards and, if necessary, mudflaps.

"wannabe traffic cops" -

Well, actually I was a traffic cop.
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Re: Why don't RCMP do a better job enforcing traffic rules?

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key words "if necessary mud flaps" just because you wannabe traffic cops are getting sprayed with water doesn't mean that theyre necessary I followed a prius that was spraying slush and water out the back I guess it needed some big cat mud flaps on it and I'm well aware of the lift laws thanks and I have my doubts that you were a traffic cop but hey its the interweb I used to work for NASA until I took a job at a nuclear plant
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