Ghost cars

spokenut · Post by **spokenut** » Mar 22nd, 2018, 1:24 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/221773 ... t-gunpoint

Personally, I will not stop for a ghost car. I’ve never thought it was safe having unmarked police vehicles doing traffic stops, as grill lights are easy to buy. If a vehicle with just flashing blue lights tries to pull me over, I continue driving to the nearest police station and will only stop for a marked police car.

my5cents · Post by **my5cents** » Mar 22nd, 2018, 1:50 pm

spokenut wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/221773/Held-at-gunpoint

Personally, I will not stop for a ghost car. I’ve never thought it was safe having unmarked police vehicles doing traffic stops, as grill lights are easy to buy. If a vehicle with just flashing blue lights tries to pull me over, I continue driving to the nearest police station and will only stop for a marked police car.

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alanjh595 · Post by **alanjh595** » Mar 22nd, 2018, 4:02 pm

spokenut wrote:Personally, I will not stop for a ghost car. I’ve never thought it was safe having unmarked police vehicles doing traffic stops, as grill lights are easy to buy. If a vehicle with just flashing blue lights tries to pull me over, I continue driving to the nearest police station and will only stop for a marked police car.

That is a very dangerous attitude to take. How many times have you been "pulled over"?

Even Steven · Post by **Even Steven** » Mar 22nd, 2018, 4:18 pm

spokenut wrote:If a vehicle with just flashing blue lights tries to pull me over, I continue driving to the nearest police station and will only stop for a marked police car.

LOL somebody is getting PIT maneuver'ed and tasered very soon.

my5cents · Post by **my5cents** » Mar 22nd, 2018, 5:39 pm

Even Steven wrote:LOL somebody is getting PIT maneuver'ed and tasered very soon.

You forgot the spike belt.

prairieflower · Post by **prairieflower** » Mar 22nd, 2018, 6:27 pm

Quite a long number of years ago in Alberta (the Calgary area), there was a guy driving around in a Town Car type of vehicle with a fake police light and was pulling over single females. There were rapes and attempted rapes reported. We were advised to drive to the nearest town/police station at that time if we felt that something wasn't right. This was told to us by the RCMP and that we would not be in trouble for it. It helped calm nerves for those of us who drove from Calgary to the outlying towns going home at night and it was a huge relief when he was caught.

KL3-Something · Post by **KL3-Something** » Mar 23rd, 2018, 12:27 pm

spokenut wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/221773/Held-at-gunpoint

Personally, I will not stop for a ghost car. I’ve never thought it was safe having unmarked police vehicles doing traffic stops, as grill lights are easy to buy. If a vehicle with just flashing blue lights tries to pull me over, I continue driving to the nearest police station and will only stop for a marked police car.

If the lights (blue AND red) and siren aren't enough for you, OK. But at the very least you need to put your 4-way flashers, drive slowly and call 911. Ask the operator if there is a police car trying to pull you over. That will take about 30 seconds.

Just be prepared to be handed a "fail to stop for police" ticket.

Unmarked police vehicles aren't going anywhere....they are far too effective for enforcement.

alanjh595 · Post by **alanjh595** » Mar 23rd, 2018, 12:32 pm

Wouldn't using your cell phone while driving, create a new "coupon" for the driver?

gman313 · Post by **gman313** » Mar 23rd, 2018, 2:10 pm

you can call 911 and explain the situation, they will very quickly tell you if it is legitimate RCMP or not, chances are, it is

lesliepaul · Post by **lesliepaul** » Mar 23rd, 2018, 8:03 pm

Kelowna Traffic Services officers are using "GHOST CARS" to MAXIMIZE or enhance ticket revenue...........safety is secondary.

It has been proven that MARKED police vehicles can control (slow down) moving vehicle traffic just by their presence.

In summary........GHOST CARS = $$$$$
........MARKED CARS = SAFETY

my5cents · Post by **my5cents** » Mar 24th, 2018, 9:03 am

lesliepaul wrote:Kelowna Traffic Services officers are using "GHOST CARS" to MAXIMIZE or enhance ticket revenue...........safety is secondary.

It has been proven that MARKED police vehicles can control (slow down) moving vehicle traffic just by their presence.

In summary........GHOST CARS = $$$$$
........MARKED CARS = SAFETY

? What's this : "It has been proven that MARKED police vehicles can control (slow down) moving vehicle traffic just by their presence" ???

Any police car, especially a marked police car will slow down traffic. and..... you needed to say ? "slow down moving traffic" ? How would you go about slowing down stopped traffic ????

For traffic enforcement, a "ghost", (unmarked) police vehicle doesn't pose a great danger. When a violator is identified, the unmarked police vehicle pulls in behind and the officer illuminates the various emergency lights and perhaps the siren not a whole lot different from a marked car.

Where potential danger comes, in, and there are lots of unmarked police vehicles being operated that aren't assigned to traffic duties, is when an unmarked police vehicle is travelling code three (siren and lights) to get to an emergency. They certainly aren't as visible. That's where their training and experience comes in.

BUT, the mere fact that a marked police vehicle is travelling code three, doesn't negate the risk associated with police work, there are MANY low watt bulbs (citizens) out there driving among us. Some don't even alert to fire trucks going code three.

As for the situation of a citizen displaying a flashing light and pulling someone over. I would consider pulling over and stopping. Making sure all door were locked. Immediately dial 911 AFTER stopping. Checking the validity of the stop.

If while stopped the person playing police officer starts doing things that don't seem to be consistent with a police officer, your on the phone with 911 and he is standing outside of his vehicle, drive off, at this time 911 can dispatch real police. The phoney cop will have seen you on the phone and likely want to head the other direction.

jimmy4321 · Post by **jimmy4321** » Mar 24th, 2018, 9:11 am

You've been watching to much "Criminal Minds".
Life is tough enough, use rational decision making.

my5cents · Post by **my5cents** » Mar 24th, 2018, 9:21 am

jimmy4321 wrote:You've been watching to much "Criminal Minds".
Life is tough enough, use rational decision making.

How did you know ? That's where I get all my ideas for police procedures. Especially the part where they arrest the suspect, place him in the police vehicle and then head to the station code three.

and your rational solution to the question is........

jimmy4321 · Post by **jimmy4321** » Mar 24th, 2018, 9:29 am

It was mostly a response to the original post.lol

Even Steven · Post by **Even Steven** » Mar 24th, 2018, 11:12 am

lesliepaul wrote:Kelowna Traffic Services officers are using "GHOST CARS" to MAXIMIZE or enhance ticket revenue...........safety is secondary.

It has been proven that MARKED police vehicles can control (slow down) moving vehicle traffic just by their presence.

It's also been proven that as people get more tickets they change their driving behavior or lose their license. In which case they stop driving altogether.

More ghost cars = more tickets written. More tickets written = more safety.

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