Peachland council - General discussion

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Peachland Boy wrote:Well Preacher lets do as your name suggests and preach the benefits of attending the all candidates meeting on Monday. In my opinion it is more important to vote for common sense than ideals. Hopefully the candidates will be willing to answer questions and speak for what they believe.


Don't know who "Preacher" is, but I guess you are talking to me. I'll be at the forum. Meanwhile I can ponder what constitutes your definition of common sense as it relates to Geiger.
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Again the perverbial axiom about assumptions etc. With a very small type sign in and given that trumpetting of ones own views is often referred to as preaching my quick glance led me to ass-u-me preacher not peacher. Please forgive and understand that my point is merely in the hope of us reaching a consensus on common sense.
Has Mr.Fielding or any of the other candidates posted platform agendas more than what I found on this site. If so please forward the link so I can be better informed. Thank You
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Before any Peachlander who is eligible to vote in this SILLY election, please have a look at the property on Victoria Road......this was passed by the Council members this past term, how it ever passed is beyond my comprehension, that last bunch would pass a runway strip on Beach Ave for a new Airport, that is of course if a DEVELOPER PAID the going rate for DEVELOPMENT, this whole Election is just for the people who want to line up at the trough at the taxpayers expence, $12,000 for each council member and $25,000 for the Mayor, which includes the Reg District payment, not toooo bad for a part time job.

For a population of approximately 5,000 people this Election of officers is INSANE.

ALL PEACHLAND NEEDS IS AN ADMINISTRATOR...........WHY DOES PEACHLAND NEED 7 PEOPLE TO BAMBOZZLE THE TAX PAYER WITH NONSENCE ???????????

WHY DOES PEACHLAND NEED A MAYOR TO BAMBOZZLE THE TAXPAYER ?????????

Do Peachlanders need a staff of ??? the wage bill........must be well over a quarter of a million $$$

Do Peachlanders need a works yard ??? the wage bill.....must be getting close to a MILLION...wages and machinery and landand trucks.

Do Peachlanders need someone to sit and watch the grass grow and then jump on a VERY VERY expensive machine to cut it.Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. The taxpayer will pay for it...thats how the Peachland workers think, I used to watch them cut a strip of grass, throw it in the trailer they had hooked on behind their truck and then take the grass up to the dump on Princeton Ave and then go back for another strip of grass and then back to the dump, all the grass would have fit in an empty IGA shopping bag. The WASTE OF TIME at the Peachland yard is disgusting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole town is OVER STAFFED......I say hire an Administrator and save millions.$$$$$$$$$ Iv'e been told that the people who will be lining up at the trough will argue against every word I have written. I WONDER WHY. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Thats why.

Who needs a director of planning ? Who needs a Bylaw officer ? Who needs a Buiding Inspector ?
Who needs 6..I repeat 6...council people ??????? and a Mayor.

I used to live in beautiful Peachland and enjoyed it so much, but moved because of the taxes ...........No side walks, no lights. There is very very little in return for your money.


Please take some time and have a look at the PLIGHT of the poor home owners underneath the LARGE MOUNTAIN of dirt, this is what the last council passed.

Its really strange that all ex Peachland Mayors never retired in Beautiful Peachland........Ummmmmmmmm.
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Madden, your post is beyond any reasonableness. Peachland needs people who will help move the town forward, not whine and complain. Thanks for moving and please leave discussion of the town's future to Peachlanders.
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Can't a person write and tell the truth, even though some people don't like to hear it. Having an opinion and free speach is NOT whining Sir. Is this NOT a democratic country.


Sounds like your one of the people that are lining up at the Trough.......ARE YOU ???

My comments are facts..................yours are RUDE ...but I except them.
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peachland boy asked about other websites- Castanet-News-Candidates -scroll to the bottom. AM 1150-Municipal Elections -Peachland- Click each candidate, not all of them have entries.
Madden- Gord Harris is still here and active. Only the last 3 have left, Waldo didn't leave much of a problem, I think he really liked Peachland and stayed around for a few years, Harriman was a dead loss, with Reid pulling his strings, and now we have Reid, with sooo much promise, but probably leaving us with debt we'll never get out of and leaving with an electorate who seems to have the lowest regard for any council in recent memory, and leaving with the OCP in shambles, development beyond what our infrastructure can handle, leaving with developers believing Peachland has been and is ripe for the picking. Never being able to admit he might be wrong, never saw an ASP or CDZ he didn't like. What a legacy. Do we want a mayor with a different vision, I do.
We've had a variety of Administrators over the last 20 years, only one lived in Peachland, some were good some not so. Did they all have the good of Peachland as their mandate, did they think the citizens were their employers or are we just to be tolerated? We do need an elected council every 3 years, being able to change horses is our salvation.
Let's hope tonight's all candidates meeting will be an eyeopener, I'm still having problems who to pick for council. Fielding is still my only choice for Mayor.
If there are any troughs in Peachland I believe they are very, very shallow.
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Bozzo & me wrote:If there are any troughs in Peachland I believe they are very, very shallow.


Well put. :sunshine:
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[Peachland needs people who will help move the town forward.

As writerdave said.

I would hope these new people will move it faster than the last bunch..........the old SCHOOL has been sitting there it seems for ever.......4 years at least , maybe more. the bunch said we will make a decision on it soon........Duhhhhhhhhh...........now thats speeeeeed and they still collected their monthly fee of 12,000 each and 25,000 *bleep* the big guy = for 48 months=$162,000. :dyinglaughing: and now most of them WALK AWAY. :bump:

Good pickings there from the taxpayer..and the last writer stated the troughs are shallow.....HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :coffeecanuck: I DON'T THINK SO !!!!!!!

I find this strange...............Did it take 4 yrs + to pass a new Sub Div or Condo living/Apt living

I DON'T THINK SO.


KEEP PAYING YOUR HIGH TAXES WRITERDAVE... :discodance: ...THIS NEW BUNCH MAY MAKE A DECISION BY 2012 if your lucky.

Noticed 160 homes listed For Sale in Peachland.................I WONDER WHY ????????????????????????
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Madden wrote:KEEP PAYING YOUR HIGH TAXES WRITERDAVE...


I'm quite comfortable paying the third lowest taxes of 9 Okanagan municipalities, thank you very much. I believe most Peachlanders are also.

Peachland having high taxes is old news.
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Madden wrote:[Peachland needs people who will help move the town forward.

As writerdave said.

I would hope these new people will move it faster than the last bunch..........the old SCHOOL has been sitting there it seems for ever.......4 years at least , maybe more. the bunch said we will make a decision on it soon........Duhhhhhhhhh...........now thats speeeeeed and they still collected their monthly fee of 12,000 each and 25,000 *bleep* the big guy = for 48 months=$162,000. :dyinglaughing: and now most of them WALK AWAY. :bump:

Good pickings there from the taxpayer..and the last writer stated the troughs are shallow.....HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :coffeecanuck: I DON'T THINK SO !!!!!!!

I find this strange...............Did it take 4 yrs + to pass a new Sub Div or Condo living/Apt living


I DON'T THINK SO.


KEEP PAYING YOUR HIGH TAXES WRITERDAVE... :discodance: ...THIS NEW BUNCH MAY MAKE A DECISION BY 2012 if your lucky.

Noticed 160 homes listed For Sale in Peachland.................I WONDER WHY ????????????????????????
:skyisfalling: :skyisfalling: :skyisfalling:


Actually the school has been there for nearly 100 years and is still in excellent condition. Also council does not serve for four years, but for three year terms. In the process of your silly rants you're failing to gather the correct facts.

I get a little sick of people who constantly rail against our politicians and level slanderous assertions with nonsense about feeding at troughs, etc. If you are so wise and astute, where were you in the 2005 civic election? Have a nice life away from Peachland. We all thank you for leaving us in peace without having to listen to your gripes and false accusations.

And in order to close on a positive note, congratulations to the participants in last night's candidate forum. As usual the hall was packed. It helped me arrive at my decisions and I hope it did the same for everyone else.
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peacher wrote:
And in order to close on a positive note, congratulations to the participants in last night's candidate forum. As usual the hall was packed. It helped me arrive at my decisions and I hope it did the same for everyone else.


Anything in particular to note? Anyone missing, good debates, surprises, etc?
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"Anything in particular to note? Anyone missing, good debates, surprises, etc?"

We learned that Bud Day is a lousy public speaker, Keith Fielding has a one-track agenda and Shirley Geiger came prepared.

We learned that most of the newbie-candidates have no idea how local government actually works.

We learned that everyone is "passionate" about Peachland. Can't think of a one of 'em didn't use that word at some point.

We learned that, if Kelowna's all-candidates forum had similar public participation, there would be about 10,000 in attendance.
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That is a very good synopsis, ogleby. And welcome to the forums.
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I attended Mondays all candidates and noticed several candidates wanting to open the cities OCP and the fellow running for mayor, Keith Fielding opened and closed his speeches saying he wanted to create an entirely new one, at approximately $150,000.00 to the tax payer!!!(This price is what caught my interest in this). That (I learned at the meeting) works out to a per household tax increase of 3-5% to pay for it! No one pointed out the current OCP has been in existence for 8 years (I found that on Peachland's city web site), the same amount of time I believe Mr. Fielding said he has lived in Peachland. The document states that there were various focus groups, multiple newsletters sent to every resident and several public open houses to create the initial OCP and I understand several changes over the years as recently as April of this year. Why did he (Fielding) not get involved then and since instead of wanting to waste taxpayer money when he gets into office now! The way it reads is it is an evolving document that has to be revisited at least every five years so it can be altered as it goes. Please tell me this is not going to be another logo fiasco where one or two people have their own agenda that everyone in the town ends up paying through the nose for it!
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Some interesting tidbits from the current campaign; do these folks think or proofread before they speak or publish?

Jean Fraser says that "council can stop progress if we want to". A new bylaw states that all clocks must stop on January 1? She also believes that those who can afford large properties with fancier landscaping should pay a lower water rate than us small-plot peasants. We don't need green grass as much as she does, I suppose.

Linda Sarsons won't support a curling rink because she doesn't curl. Reckon she won't support seniors' housing since she has a house.

Carol Smithson wants "Common sense in decision making". I'd rather have reckless coin-tossing myself.

Keith Fielding wants, on the one hand, "Re-examination of the capital works program to accelerate improvements to sidewalks, trails, lighting, open space, traffic-calming and beautification projects" and on the other hand, "Deferral of infrastructure investments designed to accelerate development growth". Like, oh...sidewalks, trails, and so on?

Bud Day wants to build sidewalks up Princeton and Trepanier: "Two hundred metres per year, would soon get it done." Um, Bud. At two hundred metres per year, you would be not quite half-way up Princeton after ten years. Do the math, eh?

This is too much fun.

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