Alan Clarke - Independent
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I can only hope that someone will confront your husband with the absolutely dishonourable campaign his representative has waged in the Castanet forum.
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Due to repeated spamming, all posts by Rita Clark have now been removed to the Landfill, so there will be some gaps in the conversation.
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I'm quite concerned what I'm reading in this thread, it appears this forum is partisan in nature, and is discriminating against this INDEPENDENT candidate.
I've also noticed, that this INDEPENDENT candidate's website has been removed from this thread.
Why?
I've also noticed, that this INDEPENDENT candidate's website has been removed from this thread.
Why?
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That's what happens when your supporters can't follow the forum rules.
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I agree that spamming needs to be controlled, especially when of a political nature, but there is no excuse for removing past postings to which others have responded, nor for removing a candidate's forum. This smacks of both rewriting history and politicization of the Castanet system. While these actions do not constitute censorship, they reflect badly on Castanet and tarnish its well-earned reputation as a service to the public.
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I would disagree, until I know the whole story. The mods have been impartial, and gave the poster(s) every chance (far past what I would have given).Homeownertoo wrote:I agree that spamming needs to be controlled, especially when of a political nature, but there is no excuse for removing past postings to which others have responded, nor for removing a candidate's forum. This smacks of both rewriting history and politicization of the Castanet system. While these actions do not constitute censorship, they reflect badly on Castanet and tarnish its well-earned reputation as a service to the public.
I think it would be fair to msg your concerns to the mod, if you wish a direct answer. I know very little of how a board like this operates, but I am going to make a guess that it is easier to remove in bulk than to selectively read each post, and decide what will stay.
Personally, I commend the mods for taking action against that gross breach of netiquette.
I feel badly for Mr. Clarke though, as those posts have done him far more harm than good.
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Please, no speculating! Keep to the issues, thanks.
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I have been an active member of this forum for close to three years now and can assure all that the admin/mods here do not take their duties lightly, and strive to remain objective in all their decisions. We should keep in mind that they are party to information that is not available to us, and I for one, am confident that the actions taken were appropriate and well deserved. Had the offending members been a little more cognizant of the fact that they were guests on someone else's site and were therefore bound to govern their behavior accordingly, they would not have lost the privilege of posting here.
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An email from Alan:
I have made request to Kelly Hayes this evening, to have my name removed and stricken immediately from the Castanet forum for the remainder of this election. With only my candidates picture and electoral platform, website address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx for public view. So theirs no confusion were I stand with the electorate during the remainder of this 2009 campaign.
Yours truly, Alan Clarke
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No one knows for sure, and that includes the moderators to this forum, if the subjects posting improper subject on this forum, are related in any way to the subject candidate. A public forum is no longer a public forum, when the subjects identity responding to the forum, is hidden or masked by a nickname or other method of concealment.
This forum should be subject to the same rules, that editors apply in the newspaper industry. Full disclosure of identity and name first and last, if you want your comment in public print or posted.
For these reasons, this forum is flawed.
What's happened hear regarding Alan Clarke running as an Independent candidate, is very interesting to say the least, its actually probably given Alan, even more exposure, any serious voter that's considering Alan as their potential candidate choice, will first go to his website http://www.electclarke.ca, which is very concise and professional, this fairs well for Alan at this time in the election process.
Until this forum requires disclosure and identity of participants, it will not be taken seriously by the voting public.
This forum should be subject to the same rules, that editors apply in the newspaper industry. Full disclosure of identity and name first and last, if you want your comment in public print or posted.
For these reasons, this forum is flawed.
What's happened hear regarding Alan Clarke running as an Independent candidate, is very interesting to say the least, its actually probably given Alan, even more exposure, any serious voter that's considering Alan as their potential candidate choice, will first go to his website http://www.electclarke.ca, which is very concise and professional, this fairs well for Alan at this time in the election process.
Until this forum requires disclosure and identity of participants, it will not be taken seriously by the voting public.
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That would make EVERY online forum flawed.Russell - Winfield wrote:For these reasons, this forum is flawed.
Funny, but so far I've only seen Mr. Clarke's supporters blatantly cross-posting in other candidates forums.
Neither will your candidate. Good luck to him, he's going to need it.Until this forum requires disclosure and identity of participants, it will not be taken seriously by the voting public.
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What the moderators can see however, are instances where multiple identities are emanating from the same internet address, and therefore the same computer, and when those identities are perpetrating a deception by posing as unrelated posters.Russell - Winfield wrote:No one knows for sure, and that includes the moderators to this forum, if the subjects posting improper subject on this forum, are related in any way to the subject candidate.
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BC Provincial Leadership Debate.
I find it very ironic, that Wilf Hanni leader of the BC Conservative Party is excluded from the Provincial Debate. Only four political parties in the history of British Columbia, have ever elected a government and a Premier to our Legislative Assembly. The British Columbia Conservative Party, the Liberal Party, the Social Credit Party, and the NDP.
Which of these parties has govered British Columbia the longest? Answer: The Conservative Party
Which Party has elected the most Premiers in BC? Answer: The British Columbia Conservative Party
Forget the BC-STV on electoral reform, until the BC Election Act is Amended to effectively regulate the Liberal partisan media, over the course of a BC Provincial Election, the democratic rights of the voting public will contiue to be undermined in this province.
Wilf Hanni Leader of the BC Conservative Party should be in the Provincial leaders debate!
Just more reason to reject the media and Liberals, and Vote for Independence May12th.
I find it very ironic, that Wilf Hanni leader of the BC Conservative Party is excluded from the Provincial Debate. Only four political parties in the history of British Columbia, have ever elected a government and a Premier to our Legislative Assembly. The British Columbia Conservative Party, the Liberal Party, the Social Credit Party, and the NDP.
Which of these parties has govered British Columbia the longest? Answer: The Conservative Party
Which Party has elected the most Premiers in BC? Answer: The British Columbia Conservative Party
Forget the BC-STV on electoral reform, until the BC Election Act is Amended to effectively regulate the Liberal partisan media, over the course of a BC Provincial Election, the democratic rights of the voting public will contiue to be undermined in this province.
Wilf Hanni Leader of the BC Conservative Party should be in the Provincial leaders debate!
Just more reason to reject the media and Liberals, and Vote for Independence May12th.
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Russell - Winfield wrote:BC Provincial Leadership Debate.
I find it very ironic, that Wilf Hanni leader of the BC Conservative Party is excluded from the Provincial Debate. Only four political parties in the history of British Columbia, have ever elected a government and a Premier to our Legislative Assembly. The British Columbia Conservative Party, the Liberal Party, the Social Credit Party, and the NDP.
The BC Conservative party nominated seven candidates in the 2005 election, who won a total of 9,623 votes, 0.55% of the provincial total.
Which of these parties has govered British Columbia the longest? Answer: The Conservative Party
Wrong: The BC Conservative party has governed for about 18 years, compared to the Liberal's 38
Which Party has elected the most Premiers in BC? Answer: The British Columbia Conservative Party
...British Columbia has had 34 Premiers since joining Confederation, of which fifteen had no party affiliation, three were Conservatives, seven were Liberals, four were Socreds, and five were New Democrats.
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The fifteen Premiers that " you state had no party affliation" is correct, BC had no political parties in the early years of the BC governance, all candidates were INDEPENDENT like Alan Clarke. Most of these pioneer political INDEPENDENTS elected were Conservatives.
And the fifteen Premiers you cite, were all Conservative Premiers
Alan Clarke is running in this election as one of those INDEPENDENT Conservatives.
http://www.electclarke.ca
And the fifteen Premiers you cite, were all Conservative Premiers
Alan Clarke is running in this election as one of those INDEPENDENT Conservatives.
http://www.electclarke.ca