Protest this

[NAB]

...In Canada we have a different definition of poverty than most other places. In Canada you can live in taxpayer subsidizing housing, have free health care, free education, free prescription drugs, free seniors housing when you retire AND have a guaranteed monthly income for life courtesy of the taxpayer and still be considered to be in poverty.

Just as an aside Al, I have to question these statements regarding all the "free" stuff people supposedly get as very misleading, particularly to young folk who may not think to question them. In particular could you point me to some "free seniors housing when you retire"? Methinks I would like to look at possibilities in that regard. It appears I may have been foolishly paying my own way.

Nab

[steven lloyd]

Yes. We can be idealistic. But just sitting back and saying “Why worry? It’s worse elsewhere” (let's go spend ten billion on a ten-day party) is a pretty pathetic copout.

But that is NOT what is occurring Stephen and I expect even you know that.

Al, saying “Why worry? It’s worse elsewhere” is a common theme on these threads - one you have engaged in yourself. What do you think is occurring ?

[steven lloyd]

In particular could you point me to some "free seniors housing when you retire"? Methinks I would like to look at possibilities in that regard. It appears I may have been follishly paying my own way.

I was going to try and find that, but maybe Al can save us time and direct us.

[grumpydigger]

here is your free housing

[Al Czervic]

...In Canada we have a different definition of poverty than most other places. In Canada you can live in taxpayer subsidizing housing, have free health care, free education, free prescription drugs, free seniors housing when you retire AND have a guaranteed monthly income for life courtesy of the taxpayer and still be considered to be in poverty.

Just as an aside Al, I have to question these statements regarding all the "free" stuff people supposedly get as very misleading, particularly to young folk who may not think to question them. In particular could you point me to some "free seniors housing when you retire"? Methinks I would like to look at possibilities in that regard. It appears I may have been foolishly paying my own way.

Nab

Residential care home and assisted living care homes are subsidized heavily by both BC Housing and by the various health authorities. Yes, you pay a percentage of your income but if your income is already provided courtesy of the taxpayer than in effect you have virtually free seniors housing. It is the same as most every other major government service here in B.C.

And yes the care rates at ALL government subsidized care homes just went up for those like you who have been “foolishly paying your own way” to make even cheaper rates for those who have never bothered.

[Al Czervic]

Yes. We can be idealistic. But just sitting back and saying “Why worry? It’s worse elsewhere” (let's go spend ten billion on a ten-day party) is a pretty pathetic copout.

But that is NOT what is occurring Stephen and I expect even you know that.

Al, saying “Why worry? It’s worse elsewhere” is a common theme on these threads - one you have engaged in yourself. What do you think is occurring ?

That is not at all what I said. You said

But just sitting back and saying “Why worry? It’s worse elsewhere” (let's go spend ten billion on a ten-day party) is a pretty pathetic copout.

And I responded that there is no copout. The Government continues to spend millions upon millions on programs and services for the low income crowd.

[coffeeFreak]

And I responded that there is no copout. The Government continues to spend millions upon millions on programs and services for the low income crowd.

So what you are saying is that schools, universities, healthcare including support services, highways, etc, etc are all services for the low-income crowd? Wow!...I just keep learning all kinds of new stuff on this Castenet forum!

[steven lloyd]

So what you are saying is that schools, universities, healthcare including support services, highways, etc, etc are all services for the low-income crowd?

Ya, didn't you know that Sea to Ski Highway that I will never drive on but will pay for with my tax dollars is a taxpayer-subsidized service for all those "low-income" folk owning property in Whistler.

[steven lloyd]

And I responded that there is no copout. The Government continues to spend millions upon millions on programs and services for the low income crowd.

Fair enough I guess, since they're spending billions upon billions on the elite and high income crowd.




People who can easily afford to attend the Olmpics and pay for tickets get them free.

People who could never afford to attend the Olympics or pay for tickets instead pay for the free giveaways with their tax dollars.

[ILBT uh-huh]

Ain't that the truth.

Sad

[steven lloyd]

And I responded that there is no copout. The Government continues to spend millions upon millions on programs and services for the low income crowd.

The denial that the issues even exist and continued copout “Why worry? It’s worse elsewhere” is perpetuated here on these boards. Everything's awesome.

[Fritzthecat]

here is your free housing

Maybe Al would like something a little more rustic?

[steven lloyd]

I guess the Salvation Army was out of matching shoes the day this fellow dropped by. Awesome.

[Liberty and Truth]

So what you are saying is that schools, universities, healthcare including support services, highways, etc, etc are all services for the low-income crowd?

Ya, didn't you know that Sea to Ski Highway that I will never drive on but will pay for with my tax dollars is a taxpayer-subsidized service for all those "low-income" folk owning property in Whistler.

SL - don't get me started on highways being built with my tax dollars yet not letting me use them. At least with the Sea to Ski you are allowed to drive on it without getting a ticket - not so here in Kelowna with the idiot HOV lane. That being said - the cops aren't enforcing it so that kind of weakens my point.

[steven lloyd]

ya, ya - let's not go there (wrong thread)