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^^^^

Now the racism spills over towards the natives, have you people no shame.? or are you just the uneducated hicks you come across as being.?
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Say here in BC if you get into an accident, depending on your lawyer you can get millions and millions in damages


Off topic I know but, Nice try. Why don't you go through that scenario and see how much ICBC is willing to give you. Remember unless you have an accident involving someone from out of province, ICBCs sues ICBC and they are not very willing to part with any cash. I have seen this up close and personal and it is embarrasing to see what ICBC thinks of parting with your money.

And flyerfan2 get ready to get pounded. The only racism here is from the Quebec side. How many examples of favourtism to the French do you need to realize THEY PROMOTE the responce to their culture that they deserve.

Quebec can seperate for all I care, pay the bill and turn off the lights when you go. We should let all the folks who work for the Government of Canada and its agencies in Quebec know that they would be out of a job. Let them vote on that and I think you'll get a lot different result than when Chritien ignored the whole affair.
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flyerfan2 wrote:^^^^

Now the racism spills over towards the natives, have you people no shame.? or are you just the uneducated hicks you come across as being.?

From Kelowna.com:

"Languages commissioner to investigate French content in opening ceremony
Thursday, February 18th, 2010 | 6:25 am


OTTAWA – The Official Languages Commissioner is expected to launch an investigation into the amount of French in the 2010 Olympic Games opening ceremony, his office confirmed Wednesday.

Commissioner Graham Fraser has received a number of complaints about the perceived lack of French in Friday's ceremony, said spokesman Robin Cantin, prompting the independent regulator to look into a spectacle that has drawn criticism from the federal government, Quebec Premier Jean Charest and Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff.

"We're not presuming at this point that there was a breach of the Official Languages Act. We're starting this investigation to see if that's the case," said Cantin.

Cantin said they would not release who filed the complaints or how many were registered, but said Fraser would release a preliminary report on the level of bilingualism at the Games following their conclusion.

The complaints hinge on the $20 million in funding that Heritage Canada gave to the Vancouver Organizing Committee for the opening ceremony, the most- watched televised event in Canadian history.

"There is an agreement between the federal government . . . and VANOC that came with a certain amount of funding," said Cantin. "And that agreement came with some language provisions."

Following the ceremony, Charest told reporters that while he thought the event was "magnificent," he said that "everybody would have liked to have had more French in the opening ceremony."

Heritage Minister James Moore shared similar sentiments with CBC on Sunday, saying he "was disappointed there wasn't as much French as we were expecting, as we were told that there was going to be."

Cantin said the commissioner had not yet contacted VANOC about the pending investigation.

On Sunday, VANOC spokeswoman Renee Smith-Valade defended the ceremony's French content, including a performance by Quebec singer Garou and an interpretation of the Chasse-galerie, an old Quebecois tale about a group of voyageurs who make a deal with the devil.

"There was a very deliberate effort and very focused effort on ensuring there was a very strong representation of French culture and language in the ceremonies," Valade-Smith said. "And there will be in the closing as well."

Cantin said the office had not received any complaints about any other aspects of the Games."


And to you flyerfan, you keep spouting "racism". How about you do some research and notice who the "real" racists are in this country. They are the ones screaming "gimme gimme", not the people you view as"racists".

But, believe what you want-it is clear where your beliefs lie.
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animal lover1 wrote:
flyerfan2 wrote:^^^^

Now the racism spills over towards the natives, have you people no shame.? or are you just the uneducated hicks you come across as being.?

From Kelowna.com:




And to you flyerfan, you keep spouting "racism". How about you do some research and notice who the "real" racists are in this country. They are the ones screaming "gimme gimme", not the people you view as"racists".

But, believe what you want-it is clear where your beliefs lie.
It's clear who the racists are.!!

They have now shown it by not only attacking the French and Quebec , but also by now wanting to rid B.C of Natives and shipping them all out to Quebec.

Like i said they either have no shame or are uneducated hicks.!!

If you can't see the racism in saying such things then maybe you also need to have a look in the mirror.





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Postby SpaceAddict » Today, 8:23 am
No my idea is give the entire Provence of Quebec to the Natives in the largest land claims settlement to date. Quebec is one third the land mass of the provinces of Canada really so it's fair.

Two problems down with one stone.




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SpaceAddict wrote:No my idea is give the entire Provence of Quebec to the Natives in the largest land claims settlement to date. Quebec is one third the land mass of the provinces of Canada really so it's fair.

Two problems down with one stone.




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but also by now wanting to rid B.C of Natives and shipping them all out to Quebec.


No no your getting the wrong idea. I simply said give Quebec to the natives. They can do anything they want with it. The entire native population. That would actually be a good thing.

Your reading something into that comment that is not there. Natives I've talked to think it's a great idea.
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SpaceAddict wrote:
but also by now wanting to rid B.C of Natives and shipping them all out to Quebec.


No no your getting the wrong idea. I simply said give Quebec to the natives. They can do anything they want with it. The entire native population. That would actually be a good thing.

Your reading something into that comment that is not there. Natives I've talked to think it's a great idea.



That's what reverse racism is...reading terrible things into EVERYTHING. "Everyone is out to get us" Bad, bad, Anglos.

I will admit, I take a VERY dim view of the state of affairs in Canada in regard to the First Nations and French. That view has probably skewed my take on both groups. If that is racism-I can live with that.

The fact is that perception is reality. All we hear is "gimme, gimme", and "poor us, you have treated us so poorly". There is rarely attempt at civility, just contention.

IMO, most people are sick and tired of the finger pointing and "me too" attitudes. As soon as anyone stands up and says "enough", they are labeled RACIST. If that is the qualification, I guess I am.......cause I say ENOUGH.

Take it for what it is worth.
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I watched a show this morning channel 38 History of this whole thing. The Francaphones in Quebec marched down the streets with French flags in the 80ties I beleive. They demanded only French be spoken, written, taught etc. They sported the French flag and called Anglophones square heads. Sounds like Hitler to me. If the Ango's wanted to stay they had to follow that law. 200 thousand Anglophones left Quebec. They had police spys, to see who broke the rule, and had any English anywhere, then they were fined if they did not comply. The Province went down hill with the enconomy acting that way. It was against human rights. They have a lawyer working on this at all times.
The government admitted it was all political as it was Francophones running the government at that time. Pure treason and traitors to Canada. They do not deserve to live here and should go back to France ,but I bet France would not take them. How dare they want to take a Province from Canada and have it for their own. Should not be allowed, either that or we should have equal rights and form our own language Provinces and demand they leave. It has relaxed a little now with the young people wanting to speak English. If they seperated it would certainly take a load off the rest of us with that kind of thinking, against all people of Canada except French. :sunshine:
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flyerfan2 wrote:^^^^

Now the racism spills over towards the natives, have you people no shame.? or are you just the uneducated hicks you come across as being.?


No we're just Anglophones and don't think we're better than the rest of the universe.

If you don't like it here there's a province for you east of Ontario.

You seemingly enjoy using phrases your level of education prevents you from grasping like "bigot" for example.

Far more of those to be found in Quebec than the rest of the country.



@MADGE can you just imagine how far a group would get in the US if they conducted themselves the same way as Quebec has?

I don't think any Country but Canada would tolerate what indeed is treason and should be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law but instead here in Canada they get rewarded and prove themselves to be nothing more than spoiled brats endlessly whining and never happy even with all the special treatment given at the expense of all the rest of the country that outnumbers them.

The ironic part is I've read on more than one occasion that even the true French aren't too keen on them. Big surprise there.
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In France, a francophone from Quebec would be treated with even more disdain than anglophone Canadians. If that were possible.. Ah, well, perhaps Americans are treated with a bit more disdain than Canadians. But that would still put them ahead of francophones from Quebec!!
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I think it would have been funny, watching every performer that sang or spoke to have to do it twice, once in each language. Would have taken 4 or 5 hours to light the flame.

Wonder what this little complaint is going to cost us to look at. Sounds like job justification to me!
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hey everybody....how bout all the money lavished on the separatists when they had the 400 year celebrations in quebec.
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I was born in Quebec and didn't speak a word of english before the age of eight but when i first heard about the 'lack of french at the opening ceremonies' complaint i too rolled my eyes. As it was i thought there was more than enough french portions to give anyone, who doesn't know better, the false impression that Canada as a whole is a bilingual country. Anyone living in Quebec who's never bothered to learn english was still able to understand every word via the usual television translation service.

It is true that among mostly the rural comunities in Quebec there is a deeply intrenched and deeply disturbing level of racism (towards just about everybody else) but most Quebecers are fine, decent, hard working folk who love Canada, love being fellow Canadians and just want their kids to have a future like everyone else.

IMO this "more french in the ceremonies" thing is simply one more issue coming from a certain group looking for the next opportunity to dish out more of their own self important, self absorbed, and self deluded horsesh*t.
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Sad fact is there still remains in Quebec a significant amount of influence from a generation who did experience first hand a Quebec whose population was stifled economically by the predominantly anglo bosses, but here's to hoping most of the younger generations can see past their parent's baggage and somehow manage to outgrow them in that respect.

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Being a "Quebecer" myself I have, first hand, been the recipient of bigotry both sides of the "border"- my beat up chrysler and Quebec license plates afforded me 'looks' in the early 80's in Ontario - and while visiting home, to visit my family, with Ontario plates we received open resentment, even years later with our young children, in my hometown, in Quebec.

All I hear, with every introduction, event, individual or team, is french first.

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unclemarty, Type_O, :rate10:

People seem to forget that people on this side of the country have somehow forgot the past. Every time something like this we need more French at the Olympics happens we remember the past.

It's such a waste of cash really this two official languages has almost bankrupted the country. We do everything twice here, we have to be one of the only counties on the planet with two official languages. Our unofficial poll is the perfect example 6% and the Quebecois somehow making it sound like 100%. We don't have language Police running round on this side of the country so be glad they actually put some French in and not none. This is why I say give the Provence away.

Like I buy a printer for my computer, It come with a complete extra French keyboard and manuals, What do I do with it? Like 70% of the rest of us we just toss it away. What a waste of resources. No wonder why we are in a deficit. Every time this same crap keeps coming up. It's getting real old and 40 years ago we on this side of the country where already sick of it.

When the French start treating the English part of this country with some basic respect then maybe we might listen.

So Sad. So True.

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Computers in Canada now have to sold with a bilingual keyboard. Looks like I'm going to the States to buy my next one.

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