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UnknownResident wrote:Why do you think if more people are voting that means the Cons are that much closer to a majority? I see no relation between the two.


That's not what I said Unknown, as we don't know yet if "more people are voting" or not. If more people do turn out to vote, as I said that will NOT work to the Conservative's advantage vs vs getting a majority rather than a minority. What I was referring to was the turn out at the advance polls, and speculating that may be, at least partially, due to a lot of people having made up their minds and wanting to get it over with without waiting for the final week of campaign to finish. That to me could signal a lower turnout on Monday rather than a high one = Conservative advantage in terms of getting a majority rather than just a minority, however slim.

Edit: I am however convinced still that a minority Conservative government is pretty much in the bag. But if that is the case I doubt it will last long.

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NAB wrote:Edit: I am however convinced still that a minority Conservative government is pretty much in the bag. But if that is the case I doubt it will last long.

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I concur Nab. If the braying Jack-ass even sniffs power, his first play is going to be to try and get the Governor General to hand him the reins. The GG will just be getting back from the Royal wedding so may tell Jack to pound sand. If Jack-ass senses a backlash from the public on him getting handed the PM job, he'll back off and his next play will be to try and sabotage Harper every chance he gets in order to get Canadians back to the polls ASAP. $300 million per election means nothing to him, so why wait.
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If the Conservatives do end up with a majority I would speculate it would have more to do with vote splitting between the NDP and Federal Liberals then it would be because more people came out to vote Conservative. Interesting that earlier today Liberal appointed senator (funny how all of the Federal Liberal apologists seem to forget that it was the Federal Liberals who wrote the book on appointed senators) Larry Campbell has suggested that the Federal Liberals and NDP should seriously contemplate a merger. I can guarantee that will not happen under Layton but interesting that some prominent Liberals are throwing it out there. Mind you, when your ship is sinking it is always easy to want to “merge” with the ship that is not sinking and gaining steam….
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Al Czervic wrote:If the Conservatives do end up with a majority I would speculate it would have more to do with vote splitting between the NDP and Federal Liberals then it would be because more people came out to vote Conservative. Interesting that earlier today Liberal appointed senator (funny how all of the Federal Liberal apologists seem to forget that it was the Federal Liberals who wrote the book on appointed senators) Larry Campbell has suggested that the Federal Liberals and NDP should seriously contemplate a merger. I can guarantee that will not happen under Layton but interesting that some prominent Liberals are throwing it out there. Mind you, when your ship is sinking it is always easy to want to “merge” with the ship that is not sinking and gaining steam….


Well, we will all recall Al that Ignatieff was forced to go all the way to saying that if he became PM, that the concept of a formal coalition with anyone was NOT in the cards. he did not however speculate as to how he would respond if the NDP by some stretch became the official opposition and INVITED him to join them to outweigh the conservatives, so he still has that ball to play with, even moreso now that the Liberals could fall to a third place finish.

On that basis, I don't see vote splitting being much of an issue any more. Nation wide, the ABC crowd will primarily vote either Liberal or NDP, so to me it doesn't matter much how it splits between them other than I would much prefer to see the NDP under Layton as official opposition rather than the Liberals under Ignatieff. That guy bothers me more and more each day the closer we get to the finish line, and somehow I think Layton has developed enough sense now not to get in bed with him and bide his time a bit.

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NAB wrote: I would much prefer to see the NDP under Layton as official opposition rather than the Liberals under Ignatieff. That guy bothers me more and more each day the closer we get to the finish line, and somehow I think Layton has developed enough sense now not to get in bed with him and bide his time a bit.

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That is a hard one. As much as Iggy is, well Iggy, he does have some integrity, intelligence, and an IQ higher then 6, all things Layton lacks of course. Mind you Layton does have a personality in spades over Iggy (and Harper for that matter) and is about the slickest salesman you will see this side of used car lot. You know what they say about Personality...(one of my favourite quotes from Pulp Fiction…



I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.....


Layton is the undisputed king of personality in this election. Harper is like a dead fish in comparison and Iggy I think would need serious trauma counselling if you soiled his silverware….
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