Conflict of interest with Fire Dept?

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justlooking4work wrote:Quoted from QueenK

As for the FF contribution you all need to get your facts straight. That too was taken out of context. Sharon decline to accept the FF union contribution. Flat out said no. So a retired FF said fine, he wrote the cheque in his name and said he'd collect from the men. What is important to recognize here folks, the KFD support Sharon. Like the shirt they gave her hanging in her campaign office says "We support those, who support us" . . . the cheque wasn't from the union, it was from a Kelowna citizen who happens to be retired FF. And so do the transit workers, city hall staff, and every social club or organization in Kelowna, support Sharon. But here is exactly the tactic of Wally's campaign. Wally hasn't once stated what he would do; he’s only bellowing that he wouldn't do this or that. He is in full out attack mode, never once surfacing long enough to explain how "he would" do something different. Great tactic, but say what you're actually going to do. If people in Kelowna can't see these snake oil salesman tactics, I guess we deserve a Wally World for being gullible enough to believe this guy again.


Let me get this Straight? Sharon has a Shirt in her office from the Firefighters saying "You scratch my back I'll scratch yours?" OMG that is crazy. She is a liar. Thank you Queen K for bringing that to our attention. :bump:



If the cheque was from a retired citiizen.. why did she not say that last night. Last night she said YES to the question "did you receive a campaign donation from the Fire Department". That was her response.... simple as that. Taking money from the fire department is a conflict of interest.. the Fire Department is funded by the city.
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thefacts wrote:
justlooking4work wrote:Quoted from QueenK

As for the FF contribution you all need to get your facts straight. That too was taken out of context. Sharon decline to accept the FF union contribution. Flat out said no. So a retired FF said fine, he wrote the cheque in his name and said he'd collect from the men. What is important to recognize here folks, the KFD support Sharon. Like the shirt they gave her hanging in her campaign office says "We support those, who support us" . . . the cheque wasn't from the union, it was from a Kelowna citizen who happens to be retired FF. And so do the transit workers, city hall staff, and every social club or organization in Kelowna, support Sharon. But here is exactly the tactic of Wally's campaign. Wally hasn't once stated what he would do; he’s only bellowing that he wouldn't do this or that. He is in full out attack mode, never once surfacing long enough to explain how "he would" do something different. Great tactic, but say what you're actually going to do. If people in Kelowna can't see these snake oil salesman tactics, I guess we deserve a Wally World for being gullible enough to believe this guy again.


Let me get this Straight? Sharon has a Shirt in her office from the Firefighters saying "You scratch my back I'll scratch yours?" OMG that is crazy. She is a liar. Thank you Queen K for bringing that to our attention. :bump:



If the cheque was from a retired citiizen.. why did she not say that last night. Last night she said YES to the question "did you receive a campaign donation from the Fire Department". That was her response.... simple as that. Taking money from the fire department is a conflict of interest.. the Fire Department is funded by the city.



Yes, but if the contribution came from the firefighters, not the actual department, then in the end that is THEIR choice. If they pooled their own wages together and said this is from the FD, then that is their right. The money didn't come out of the ACTUAL Fire Department's budget or what not, it came from the people working.
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thefacts wrote:. Taking money from the fire department is a conflict of interest.. the Fire Department is funded by the city.

so is accepting money from the development community, that doesnt seem to bother gray or his supporters....hypocritical much?
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Developers are private non taxpayer funded groups. The Kelowna Fire Dept is paid for by our tax dollars. Which would mean that regular taxpayers who did not wish to donate to Sheperd's campaign just did! I want my money back! I did not authorize my money to go to her pockets! I would not vote for her so why am I stuck giving her money? What a crock of crap- SHE should be fired for this!
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Joe T wrote:Developers are private non taxpayer funded groups. The Kelowna Fire Dept is paid for by our tax dollars. Which would mean that regular taxpayers who did not wish to donate to Sheperd's campaign just did! I want my money back! I did not authorize my money to go to her pockets! I would not vote for her so why am I stuck giving her money? What a crock of crap- SHE should be fired for this!



Again, what the firefighters do with THEIR wage is THEIR business.
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I wasn't aware of this, but it's absolutely shocking and completely hypocritical from someone running on a campaign built around righteousness and transparency. Wow. The funny thing is, it's not the amount of the donation, or even that it could be perceived as a conflict of interest (which I personally think it is), it's the fact that she definitively said at the Daily Courier forum (I was there) as some sort of testament to her integrity that she only takes donations from friends and family and would never take a donation from someone who she may have to deal with in an official capacity. Clearly that was not true.

All I can say is, wow. one comment and a campaign is beginning to become derailed.
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Joe T wrote:Developers are private non taxpayer funded groups. The Kelowna Fire Dept is paid for by our tax dollars. Which would mean that regular taxpayers who did not wish to donate to Sheperd's campaign just did! I want my money back! I did not authorize my money to go to her pockets! I would not vote for her so why am I stuck giving her money? What a crock of crap- SHE should be fired for this!

so now that it appears to be an individual RETIRED firefighter who gave the money to shepherd's campaign and not the fire department, are you still complaining?

developers get rewarded by having their development APPROVED by council, are you that naive? but you have no problem with gray getting his campaign bought and paid for by the development community? DOUBLE standard much!
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Enough said.

All explained now.

Lets start throwing out more ideas for e.g. why we want certain councilors.

I believe most voters will have a very tough time.

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The donation came from the Fire hall period! this is taxpayer money! if it was a friend- then she should have stated! Then it would not be from the fire hall but a friend which is fine! The fact of the matter is it was stated from the FIRE HALL which is different- so WHO'S NAIVE? Developers are people that pay taxes to support the city also and have just as much right as any other person to support another candidate just as a FRIEND would. If we did not have development- we would not have a tax base to pay for the social services that this city needs! I guess you must live in the bush with no roof over your head if you are so anti development! hope the snow isn't to cold for you since you must not have any heat from the development of the city services! Clown! Here's a tip- don't eat the yellow snow!
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Gawd, I'll be so happy to have this election over. I am sick of all this mud-slinging and silly accusations and sensationalizing!

You all sound like a bunch of spoiled children. Can't you address issues instead of these character assassinations?
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Joe T wrote:Developers are private non taxpayer funded groups. The Kelowna Fire Dept is paid for by our tax dollars. Which would mean that regular taxpayers who did not wish to donate to Sheperd's campaign just did! I want my money back! I did not authorize my money to go to her pockets! I would not vote for her so why am I stuck giving her money? What a crock of crap- SHE should be fired for this!

So what are you saying . . . the fire dept. gave to Sharon's campaign from the departments budget, or their own pockets! Get your facts straight.

Sharon's integrity is absolutely stellar in comparison with Walt's, and anyone who REALLY knows them both knows this.
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Let's get something straight right now Justlookingforwork: My quote was the one ABOVE my name, not the one you are using here. If you can't keep your facts straight here on the forums and read things properly, then start lookingforschool first.
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My point was made. :skyisfalling:
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justlooking4work wrote:My point was made. :skyisfalling:


What "point"? That you can't read properly? Are you not even going to acknowledge that you misquoted me with someone else's quote?
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Let's get something straight right now Justlookingforwork: My quote was the one ABOVE my name, not the one you are using here. If you can't keep your facts straight here on the forums and read things properly, then start lookingforschool first


Queen K, that made me laugh out loud! I am beginning to think with the amount of time justlookingforwork spends on here he really isn`t looking for work, but waiting for Wally to open Kelowna for business so someone will hand him a job. :dyinglaughing:

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