Elections American Style.
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Elections American Style.
Before harper changed the elections to a fixed date, election campaigns were at most 60 days long.
Now we are seeing campaigns that have begun months in advance of election day.
It used to be that parties could spend about $20 millions on the election.
Now because the campaign is not officially underway, but is clearly going on, we are seeing much more money being spent.
How long before the electioneering does not stop, as we see in the flawed system to the south?.
How much money will it take to win, the rich guy always seems to have the advantage?.
Harper has taken away a tradition of fairness in our elections, and we let him do it.
Now we are seeing campaigns that have begun months in advance of election day.
It used to be that parties could spend about $20 millions on the election.
Now because the campaign is not officially underway, but is clearly going on, we are seeing much more money being spent.
How long before the electioneering does not stop, as we see in the flawed system to the south?.
How much money will it take to win, the rich guy always seems to have the advantage?.
Harper has taken away a tradition of fairness in our elections, and we let him do it.
We're lost but we're making good time.
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Re: Elections American Style.
Is it fair that one party, the government party, knows when the election will be held (or at least can control when it is held), and the other parties don't? I'm not a huge fan of fixed election dates but there are some advantages. People used to complain about the government being able to control when elections are held and how unfair that was. Now they complain when the government doesn't have that advantage. Just saying . . .
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I don't like the fixed election dates. It's nice to have a short cycle and be done with it. The American style campaigning is very bad for the country. It's boring, expensive and leads to voter fatigue. I'm not sure the governing party having inside knowledge of the upcoming date before the opposition has really proven proven to be a benefit as the elected party changes all the time.
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JLives wrote:I don't like the fixed election dates. It's nice to have a short cycle and be done with it. The American style campaigning is very bad for the country. It's boring, expensive and leads to voter fatigue. I'm not sure the governing party having inside knowledge of the upcoming date before the opposition has really proven proven to be a benefit as the elected party changes all the time.
Fixed-date elections in Canada
Under the Canadian Constitution, general elections are to be held at least once every five years. Traditionally, under a parliamentary system of government, general elections are called at the discretion of the prime minister, although they may be held at any time if the government loses the confidence of the legislature. This can be contrasted with congressional systems of government, where elections are held on set dates, as well as municipal governments in Canada, which are generally elected for a fixed term of office. In recent years, there have been calls for more predictable election dates for federal, provincial and territorial legislatures, and for restrictions on a government’s advantage in calling elections when it is most politically advantageous for them to do so.
The intent of fixed-date election legislation is to create a regular cycle of planned general elections, with specific, predictable election dates and a fixed term for the legislature. Beginning with British Columbia in 2001, a total of eight Canadian provinces and territories have passed laws calling for fixed-date elections. In 2007, the Parliament of Canada passed a law which introduced fixed-date elections at the federal level. All of the Canadian statutes provide for general elections every four years. However, elections can still be held earlier if the government loses the confidence of the legislature, and nothing restricts the royal prerogative of dissolution.
By-elections to fill empty seats in the legislature are not affected by the introduction of fixed-date elections, and continue to be held between the dates of general elections as required.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/ParlInfo/compilat ... tions.aspx
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Re: Elections American Style.
The fixed election dates don't really mean all that much, if suddenly the Harper government surged ahead in the polls Harper could break his own law and call an early snap election, back when John Baird stepped down some political analysts were suggesting Harper might actually call an early election rather than have a by-election sometime before August to replace Baird. On the other hand, if the Harper government isn't showing very good in their own internal polling, Harper could violate his own laws and postpone the October election out the the constitutional maximum, which would be May 2016...
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Hurtlander wrote:The fixed election dates don't really mean all that much, if suddenly the Harper government surged ahead in the polls Harper could break his own law and call an early snap election, back when John Baird stepped down some political analysts were suggesting Harper might actually call an early election rather than have a by-election sometime before August to replace Baird. On the other hand, if the Harper government isn't showing very good in their own internal polling, Harper could violate his own laws and postpone the October election out the the constitutional maximum, which would be May 2016...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term ... s_Act_2011
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I still remember when Chretien called an election in 2000 to try and run to the polls because he was scared of Stockwell Day. He still had over a year left in his mandate, and wasted $300 million tax dollars on an election purely because he saw a political advantage. In Alberta, the PC premier called an election a year before it was required and he was soundly trounced, and one of the reasons for that was that he needlessly and arrogantly took Albertans to the polls for no reason. If Alberta had fixed dates, he would still be in power today, and Notley would still be searching the arts faculties of Calgary community colleges looking for unqualified candidates.
Fixed election dates are good, and the US isn't the only country that has them. Even Norway, beloved by socialists everywhere, has fixed election dates, yet I didn't see you mention that Stephen Harper has adopted Norwegian style elections. This constant fixation with trying to make everything Canada and Stephen Harper does seem American in nature really is a giant load of BS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_ ... tion,_2017
Fixed election dates are good, and the US isn't the only country that has them. Even Norway, beloved by socialists everywhere, has fixed election dates, yet I didn't see you mention that Stephen Harper has adopted Norwegian style elections. This constant fixation with trying to make everything Canada and Stephen Harper does seem American in nature really is a giant load of BS.
According to the Norwegian constitution, parliamentary elections must be held every four years. Rather uniquely, the Norwegian parliament may not be dissolved before such a parliamentary four-year term has ended, which in practice makes snap elections impossible to hold without breaking the constitutional electoral law of the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_ ... tion,_2017
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logicalview wrote:Fixed election dates are good, and the US isn't the only country that has them. Even Norway, beloved by socialists everywhere, has fixed election dates, yet I didn't see you mention that Stephen Harper has adopted Norwegian style elections. This constant fixation with trying to make everything Canada and Stephen Harper does seem American in nature really is a giant load of BS.