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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby soupy » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:07 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:
All good jobs


So my job isn't good because i didnt have to submit to a D&A test to be awarded my job ?
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby alanjh595 » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:07 pm

soupy wrote:That is quite the bold statement you make here.
My job is VERY GOOD. I did not have to take a drug test, nor do the other employees. (APPROX 600 of them)


Do you pay income tax and medical insurance ?

You do know that those premiums are used to support those that are on welfare, right ?
Those people are supposed to at least try and get off of welfare and find employment, so that you don't have to support them.
How could they get a job, either full-time/part-time/seasonal if their drug habit is more important to them than your money is to you ?

That's great, there are 600 people employed with you, that are all paying to support drug addicts. How is that not enabling ?
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby alanjh595 » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:09 pm

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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby soupy » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:13 pm

alanjh595 wrote:
soupy wrote:That is quite the bold statement you make here.
My job is VERY GOOD. I did not have to take a drug test, nor do the other employees. (APPROX 600 of them)


Do you pay income tax and medical insurance ?

You do know that those premiums are used to support those that are on welfare, right ?
Those people are supposed to at least try and get off of welfare and find employment, so that you don't have to support them.
How could they get a job, either full-time/part-time/seasonal if their drug habit is more important to them than your money is to you ?

That's great, there are 600 people employed with you, that are all paying to support drug addicts. How is that not enabling ?


LOL *bleep* ??!! I was defending that just because my employer does not drug test, does not mean it isn't a "good job" as Jflem seemed to think drug testing is done for good jobs.

Yes i pay income tax. I pay a portion of medical insurance (employer pays majority).
Who said my money was so important to me ?

I was just proving there are "good jobs" in which one doesn't have to undergo a drug test.
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby Jflem1983 » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:14 pm

Maybe i was being too general. Most good jobs a young man could easily obtain. Require a drug test.
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby soupy » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:16 pm

alanjh595 wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:
All good jobs


So my job isn't good because i didnt have to submit to a D&A test to be awarded my job ?


You were "awarded" your job ? You didn't earn it ?[/quote]

:spitcoffee: BAHAHAHAHAHA. This is your best comment of the day.

Yes, after the employer reviewed many applications, interviewed all shortlisted candidates, reinterviewed a second time, I was "awarded" a job offer.
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby soupy » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:22 pm

**As i am just a fledgling with few posts, i keep messing up when replying to a post that already has too many quotes.

Alan, I did earn my job. Through a lengthly application / interview process. Commonly when someone is offered a position they say "the job was awarded to ..."
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby alanjh595 » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:27 pm

here's the difference between Award and Reward.

Award and Reward sound same but their meanings are quite different. Although, both are valuable for any person as they give a sense of satisfaction and respect, in return for their work. .
An Award is conferred in front of the mass public for excellence, but Reward may or may not be given in public, it is a kind of compensation given to a person for their good work.


Therefore if someone receives an Award, they just showed up.

To receive Reward, they get paid for doing their job.

Awards are given to welfare recipients to show up on the last Wednesday of the month to pick up their cheque.

Rewards are paid to those that show up every day required, dressed, sober, and work for their money.
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby soupy » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:33 pm

alanjh595 wrote:here's the difference between Award and Reward.

Award and Reward sound same but their meanings are quite different. Although, both are valuable for any person as they give a sense of satisfaction and respect, in return for their work. .
An Award is conferred in front of the mass public for excellence, but Reward may or may not be given in public, it is a kind of compensation given to a person for their good work.


Therefore if someone receives an Award, they just showed up.

To receive Reward, they get paid for doing their job.

Awards are given to welfare recipients to show up on the last Wednesday of the month to pick up their cheque.

Rewards are paid to those that show up every day required, dressed, sober, and work for their money.


a·ward
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verb
past tense: awarded; past participle: awarded
give or order the giving of (something) as an official payment, compensation, or prize to (someone).
"he was awarded the Purple Heart"
synonyms: give, grant, accord, assign; More
grant or assign (a contract or commission) to (a person or organization).

After my interview process i was awarded the position.
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby Sparki55 » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:46 pm

lol, guess my post was lost in the discussion of a dictionary battle, you people are ridiculous.

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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby dogspoiler » Jul 31st, 2018, 4:55 pm

:topic: It's funny that people will vilify the drug dealers for suppling the addicts but will support giving the addicts the money to buy the drugs.
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby alanjh595 » Jul 31st, 2018, 5:02 pm

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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby savvybusinessman » Aug 1st, 2018, 12:39 am

"Welfare" as you guys call it is like $600 per month. Who the f cares if some of this paltry sum goes to drugs?

How much of your tax dollars is affected? Like 3% of a penny?
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby Jflem1983 » Aug 1st, 2018, 5:06 am

savvybusinessman wrote:"Welfare" as you guys call it is like $600 per month. Who the f cares if some of this paltry sum goes to drugs?

How much of your tax dollars is affected? Like 3% of a penny?


Well if it is so little. They can easily make that with a paper route. So whybare we giving them a dime
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Re: Random drug testing for welfare recipients

Postby Sparki55 » Aug 1st, 2018, 7:34 am

savvybusinessman wrote:"Welfare" as you guys call it is like $600 per month. Who the f cares if some of this paltry sum goes to drugs?

How much of your tax dollars is affected? Like 3% of a penny?


$600 per person per month multiplied by the 50,000 or so people on it plus admin fees is around 400,000,000 a year for BC. Is 400 million nothing to you?

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