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bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:37 pm Were there indigenous land defenders protesting in Ottawa? Maybe.
Were there climate change activists protesting in Ottawa? Maybe?
Were there workers fighting for fairness in Ottawa? Most definitely.
None of the above related to the occuoation. That's the point.

Real workers were busy working.
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bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:39 pm
hobbyguy wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:34 pm

In this case, we are in agreement, those are ill considered words by Jagmeet.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Such blockades and occupations are anarchistic and can not be condoned under any circumstances by anyone. Doesn't matter if it is the far left "extinction rebellion" types or the far right "sons of Odin" types - it always an assault on democracy and the rights of others.

One can not pick sides on such issues and pretend believe in democracy.

It is clear that the proper peaceful use of the demonstrate is just that - to demonstrate in support of clearly defined issues and show that a large number of people share that viewpoint on the issue. Going beyond that slides the scale toward riots - which are clearly our of bounds.

I did not agree with the indigenous blockades of the railways, nor the blockades that "extinction rebellion" have put up nor the blockades/occupation by the hijacked truckers convoy. Policing now routinely arrests the "extinction rebellion" anarchists - as they should. The police should do and have now finally done the same with hijacked truckers convoy.

There is no place in our democracy for using blockades and occupations to hold hostage regular law abiding Canadians, their businesses and livelihoods. Not by anyone. No politician should countenance or enable such behavior in any way.

Jagmeet, as a lawyer, should know better than to make such a statement. (And yes, I checked, it is up on the NDP website.) I am disappointed that Jagmeet takes such a myopic partisan view.
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LordEd wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:42 pm
bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:37 pm Were there indigenous land defenders protesting in Ottawa? Maybe.
Were there climate change activists protesting in Ottawa? Maybe?
Were there workers fighting for fairness in Ottawa? Most definitely.
None of the above related to the occuoation. That's the point.

Real workers were busy working.
Then why was it necessary for him to mention these groups?
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Since you want to compare the damaged equipment VS ottawa, let me be clear. If they are found they should receive the same treatment as has occurred in ottawa: arrested for mischief to property (up to 10years) and the company sue them for all the damage they did.

The difference is they left. Ottawa needed something more to kick them out.
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Catsumi wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:13 pm Funny. Me with some legal wordsmith training, reads it the exact same way as bb49 interpreted Singh’s shameful statement
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bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:46 pm
LordEd wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:42 pm
None of the above related to the occuoation. That's the point.

Real workers were busy working.
Then why was it necessary for him to mention these groups?
Because the act is broadly written. Note that all measures taken in the act are also subject to review. By making a statement its clear the approval of invoking the act is not being extended to use outside this current issue.

Are you saying you want the act to be applicable outside of the immediate declared emergency?
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bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:46 pm
LordEd wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:42 pm
None of the above related to the occuoation. That's the point.

Real workers were busy working.
Then why was it necessary for him to mention these groups?
He wants to make it clear to the anarchists he supports that this is only for groups he doesn't agree with.
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DoDo1975 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:53 pm
bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:46 pm
Then why was it necessary for him to mention these groups?
He wants to make it clear to the anarchists he supports that this is only for groups he doesn't agree with.
He meaning Jagmeet, not me. Right? :biggrin:
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bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:58 pm
DoDo1975 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:53 pm

He wants to make it clear to the anarchists he supports that this is only for groups he doesn't agree with.
He meaning Jagmeet, not me. Right? :biggrin:
Correct. Not that anyone with a lick of intelligence didn't already know what Jagmeet meant, but there are many posters here that may have needed it spelled out for them due to la tete haute syndrome.
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bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 6:40 pm
LordEd wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 6:33 pm So they are all still there then? Should be easy to identify and arrest. In assuming there are some factors to why the province and city have declared an emergency over it and requested assistance?
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ohoh, Cats called someone slimemold.. things getting heated.

Glad he stood with JT
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normaM wrote: Feb 22nd, 2022, 4:50 am ohoh, Cats called someone slimemold.. things getting heated.

Glad he stood with JT
why? It was a terrible decision that totally destroys the NDP's integrity and credibility. Are you a secret CPC supporter?
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LordEd wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:47 pm Since you want to compare the damaged equipment VS ottawa, let me be clear. If they are found they should receive the same treatment as has occurred in ottawa: arrested for mischief to property (up to 10years) and the company sue them for all the damage they did.

The difference is they left. Ottawa needed something more to kick them out.
The difference is Ottawa.
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DoDo1975 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:53 pm
bb49 wrote: Feb 21st, 2022, 7:46 pm
Then why was it necessary for him to mention these groups?
He wants to make it clear to the anarchists he supports that this is only for groups he doesn't agree with.
:up: :up:
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